Comments on: Bush: I’m Telling You Fo(u)r Years Already – We’re Making Progress http://themoderatevoice.com/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Sun, 27 May 2012 20:45:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Nobody http://themoderatevoice.com/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-76527 Nobody Mon, 23 Apr 2007 18:15:17 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/war/iraq/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/#comment-76527 yeah 36 percent is a mandate. Duh silly me. yeah 36 percent is a mandate. Duh silly me.

]]> By: kritter http://themoderatevoice.com/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-76419 kritter Mon, 23 Apr 2007 14:00:02 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/war/iraq/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/#comment-76419 Nobody- Actually the congressional ratings have come up considerably since the neocons ran the show! Still low- but its early. And I thought your side didn't believe in governing by poll results. Nobody- Actually the congressional ratings have come up considerably since the neocons ran the show! Still low- but its early. And I thought your side didn’t believe in governing by poll results.

]]> By: Nobody http://themoderatevoice.com/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-76396 Nobody Mon, 23 Apr 2007 11:55:48 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/war/iraq/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/#comment-76396 Oh now that the dems are in charge its okay for the approval rating to be so low? You guys are funny. I am opposed to the wall. I want the Illegals bused back to Mexico and I want the AFL/CIO, Boy Scouts, Cub Scouts, MLB, NHL anybody to keep the sunny beaches out of the USA unless they petition for and are granted Immigration status. I love Hispanics. I think they should do well and prosper in Mexico. I love the French. As long as they stay in France. However I will love them both if they come to the USA LEGALLY and abide by the laws of the land. Oh now that the dems are in charge its okay for the approval rating to be so low?

You guys are funny.

I am opposed to the wall. I want the Illegals bused back to Mexico and I want the AFL/CIO, Boy Scouts, Cub Scouts, MLB, NHL anybody to keep the sunny beaches out of the USA unless they petition for and are granted Immigration status.

I love Hispanics. I think they should do well and prosper in Mexico. I love the French. As long as they stay in France. However I will love them both if they come to the USA LEGALLY and abide by the laws of the land.

]]> By: kritter http://themoderatevoice.com/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-76324 kritter Mon, 23 Apr 2007 03:18:08 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/war/iraq/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/#comment-76324 Nobody- Earlier you said that you were opposed to the wall- now you say that Congress should act on the 2006 legislation to build it. Which is it?? BTW- Congressional approval ratings are traditionally around those levels. Nobody- Earlier you said that you were opposed to the wall- now you say that Congress should act on the 2006 legislation to build it. Which is it??

BTW- Congressional approval ratings are traditionally around those levels.

]]> By: White Agent http://themoderatevoice.com/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-76319 White Agent Mon, 23 Apr 2007 03:00:55 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/war/iraq/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/#comment-76319 Purple A- Its not an argument. Its fact. Purple A- Its not an argument. Its fact.

]]> By: Nobody http://themoderatevoice.com/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-76305 Nobody Mon, 23 Apr 2007 02:09:07 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/war/iraq/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/#comment-76305 Congressional Job Approval RCP Average Approve 36.8% Disapprove 53.8% Its time they got something done. I'm really tired of this all talk and getting nothing done. Immigration is not something to play around with any longer. If they don't belong here. Send them home. I'll even let them take their Mexican flags with them. Simple as that. Congressional Job Approval
RCP Average
Approve 36.8%
Disapprove 53.8%

Its time they got something done. I’m really tired of this all talk and getting nothing done. Immigration is not something to play around with any longer. If they don’t belong here. Send them home. I’ll even let them take their Mexican flags with them.

Simple as that.

]]> By: Pug http://themoderatevoice.com/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-76283 Pug Sun, 22 Apr 2007 23:48:33 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/war/iraq/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/#comment-76283 <em>The antiwar only measures success in how many car bombs explode in Iraq daily.</em> Actually, that's a pretty good way to measure it, don't you think? The number of suicide bombings plus the number of dead bodies found in Baghdad each morning, shot execution style, is a pretty good measure of how well things are going. That and the number of American deaths, sadly. Most of us sure aren't going to measure success by the words of George W. Bush or Dick Cheney. The antiwar only measures success in how many car bombs explode in Iraq daily.

Actually, that’s a pretty good way to measure it, don’t you think? The number of suicide bombings plus the number of dead bodies found in Baghdad each morning, shot execution style, is a pretty good measure of how well things are going. That and the number of American deaths, sadly.

Most of us sure aren’t going to measure success by the words of George W. Bush or Dick Cheney.

]]> By: kritter http://themoderatevoice.com/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-76268 kritter Sun, 22 Apr 2007 23:12:56 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/war/iraq/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/#comment-76268 <em>The 700-mile border fence Congress approved for construction in a session-ending deal was little more than a fast act of political cosmetics in an election year and may never come to fruition, say immigration advocates looking ahead to the Democratic-led 110th Congress</em> Nobody- Yes it was a picture of a fence- just not the fence that is supposed to be built by that legislation. Even Fox News admits that in the above quote from YOUR article, LOL! The 700-mile border fence Congress approved for construction in a session-ending deal was little more than a fast act of political cosmetics in an election year and may never come to fruition, say immigration advocates looking ahead to the Democratic-led 110th Congress

Nobody- Yes it was a picture of a fence- just not the fence that is supposed to be built by that legislation. Even Fox News admits that in the above quote from YOUR article, LOL!

]]> By: Michael van der Galien http://themoderatevoice.com/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-76254 Michael van der Galien Sun, 22 Apr 2007 22:03:55 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/war/iraq/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/#comment-76254 Exactly Nick, hence the title of the post. It has been the same refrain for 4 years already. Exactly Nick, hence the title of the post. It has been the same refrain for 4 years already.

]]> By: Chris http://themoderatevoice.com/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-76224 Chris Sun, 22 Apr 2007 20:19:10 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/war/iraq/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/#comment-76224 <blockquote>The military is going to admit they failed? I don’t think so.</blockquote> Exactly, WA. It's hard to get independent and unbiased news out of Iraq because the journalists are afraid to leave the green zone, unless they want to die. Isn't that an indictment enough about the situation in Iraq?

The military is going to admit they failed? I don’t think so.

Exactly, WA.

It’s hard to get independent and unbiased news out of Iraq because the journalists are afraid to leave the green zone, unless they want to die.

Isn’t that an indictment enough about the situation in Iraq?

]]> By: nicrivera http://themoderatevoice.com/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-76221 nicrivera Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:56:23 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/war/iraq/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/#comment-76221 Jon Stewart's chronicling of Bush's assertions of "progress" can be found <a href="http://movies.crooksandliars.com/TDS-Bush-Progress.mov" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Jon Stewart’s chronicling of Bush’s assertions of “progress” can be found here.

]]> By: nicrivera http://themoderatevoice.com/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-76220 nicrivera Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:54:01 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/war/iraq/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/#comment-76220 I think what Michael is getting at (and I certainly agree with) is the lack of candor this administration displays with regards to how well this war is going and how close we are to achieving the objective. President Bush, amid his criticism of Democrats who want bring this war to a conclusion, is telling us "No! We're making progress!" But as Jon Stewart of the Daily Show points out, this is a refrain that Bush has been repeating over and over again: President Bush, April 2007: <em>Pushing legislation that would undercut our troops just as we're beginning to make <strong>progress</strong> in Baghdad.</em> President Bush, January 2006: <em>That's <strong>progress</strong>. And it's important <strong>progress</strong>. And it's an important part of our strategy to win in Iraq.</em> President Bush, November 2005: <em>Iraq has made incredible political <strong>progress</strong>.</em> President Bush, October 2005: <em>Iraqi's are making inspiring <strong>progress</strong>.</em> President Bush, September 2005: <em>Iraq has made incredible political <strong>progress</strong>.</em> President Bush, April 2005: <em>I believe we're making really good <strong>progress</strong> in Iraq.</em> President Bush, March 2005: <em>We're making <strong>progress</strong>.</em> President Bush, September 2004: <em>We're making steady <strong>progress</strong>.</em> President Bush, July 2003: <em>We're making progress. Slowly and surely, we're making <strong>progress</strong>.</em> President Bush, May 2003: <em>In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have <strong>prevailed</strong>.</em> We've been having "progress" now for the last FOUR YEARS, and yet Iraq remains a mess, and our troops remain there with little hope of returning home anytime in the near future. This president has lost all credibility with regards to the Iraq War. He can't just keep telling the American people that we're making "progress" and expect them to support a war that continues to go on year after year. I think what Michael is getting at (and I certainly agree with) is the lack of candor this administration displays with regards to how well this war is going and how close we are to achieving the objective. President Bush, amid his criticism of Democrats who want bring this war to a conclusion, is telling us “No! We’re making progress!” But as Jon Stewart of the Daily Show points out, this is a refrain that Bush has been repeating over and over again:

President Bush, April 2007:
Pushing legislation that would undercut our troops just as we’re beginning to make progress in Baghdad.

President Bush, January 2006:
That’s progress. And it’s important progress. And it’s an important part of our strategy to win in Iraq.

President Bush, November 2005:
Iraq has made incredible political progress.

President Bush, October 2005:
Iraqi’s are making inspiring progress.

President Bush, September 2005:
Iraq has made incredible political progress.

President Bush, April 2005:
I believe we’re making really good progress in Iraq.

President Bush, March 2005:
We’re making progress.

President Bush, September 2004:
We’re making steady progress.

President Bush, July 2003:
We’re making progress. Slowly and surely, we’re making progress.

President Bush, May 2003:
In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed.

We’ve been having “progress” now for the last FOUR YEARS, and yet Iraq remains a mess, and our troops remain there with little hope of returning home anytime in the near future.

This president has lost all credibility with regards to the Iraq War. He can’t just keep telling the American people that we’re making “progress” and expect them to support a war that continues to go on year after year.

]]> By: Nobody http://themoderatevoice.com/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-76219 Nobody Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:47:28 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/war/iraq/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/#comment-76219 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,236620,00.html The fence we arent building. Well here is a picture of the Utah national guard building the fence in Arizona. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,236620,00.html

The fence we arent building.

Well here is a picture of the Utah national guard building the fence in Arizona.

]]> By: kritter http://themoderatevoice.com/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-76190 kritter Sun, 22 Apr 2007 17:43:39 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/war/iraq/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/#comment-76190 <em>House Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer (D-MD) announced in January 2007 that Congress will revisit the fence plan, while committee chairs are holding up funding until a comprehensive border security plan is presented by the Department of Homeland Security. Both Senators from Texas, John Cornyn (R-TX) and Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX), advocate revising the plan.[5]</em> From Wiki: I don't know what your nephew is working on, Nobody, but it is not the fence which is still in planning/revision phase. There are several smaller fences that have been built along the border. House Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer (D-MD) announced in January 2007 that Congress will revisit the fence plan, while committee chairs are holding up funding until a comprehensive border security plan is presented by the Department of Homeland Security. Both Senators from Texas, John Cornyn (R-TX) and Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX), advocate revising the plan.[5]

From Wiki:

I don’t know what your nephew is working on, Nobody, but it is not the fence which is still in planning/revision phase. There are several smaller fences that have been built along the border.

]]> By: Jim Satterfield http://themoderatevoice.com/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-76178 Jim Satterfield Sun, 22 Apr 2007 16:58:06 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/war/iraq/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/#comment-76178 Yes, the wall is Rush Limbaugh's fault. The Mexicans insisted on protection from the huge amounts of hot air. Their climate is warm enough, thank you very much. They were also afraid that the complete inability to recognize reality might become as contagious as it has become in this country. After all, Bush still has an approval rating. Yes, the wall is Rush Limbaugh’s fault. The Mexicans insisted on protection from the huge amounts of hot air. Their climate is warm enough, thank you very much. They were also afraid that the complete inability to recognize reality might become as contagious as it has become in this country. After all, Bush still has an approval rating.

]]> By: Nobody http://themoderatevoice.com/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-76173 Nobody Sun, 22 Apr 2007 16:40:31 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/war/iraq/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/#comment-76173 But in Congress's rush to recess last night for the fall political campaigns, the fence bill passed easily, 80 to 19, with 26 Democrats joining 54 Republicans in support. Actually I am a neoconservative and am opposed to the wall. It just does not sit well with what America offers the world in my view. I would argue that. My nephew has been building it for 3 months now with a Reserve Unit from New York State. But I don't know. I guess thats propaganda But in Congress’s rush to recess last night for the fall political campaigns, the fence bill passed easily, 80 to 19, with 26 Democrats joining 54 Republicans in support.

Actually I am a neoconservative and am opposed to the wall. It just does not sit well with what America offers the world in my view.

I would argue that. My nephew has been building it for 3 months now with a Reserve Unit from New York State. But I don’t know. I guess thats propaganda

]]> By: kritter http://themoderatevoice.com/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-76156 kritter Sun, 22 Apr 2007 16:04:37 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/war/iraq/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/#comment-76156 <em>So the wall between Mexico and the USA is Rush Limbaughs fault? </em> Well the wall that we're not building ,as Davebo correctly noted, is due to the outrage raised by AM radio hosts, CNN's Lou Dobbs and others in the media. The public response produced the vote in Congress. But is it really being built or is it a hoax to coverup the superhighway and pacify the xenophobes? So the wall between Mexico and the USA is Rush Limbaughs fault?

Well the wall that we’re not building ,as Davebo correctly noted, is due to the outrage raised by AM radio hosts, CNN’s Lou Dobbs and others in the media. The public response produced the vote in Congress. But is it really being built or is it a hoax to coverup the superhighway and pacify the xenophobes?

]]> By: Davebo http://themoderatevoice.com/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-76153 Davebo Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:56:41 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/war/iraq/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/#comment-76153 <blockquote>Why are we building a Wall on our southern border with Mexico? </blockquote> We aren't. Have you checked the border lately?

Why are we building a Wall on our southern border with Mexico?

We aren’t. Have you checked the border lately?

]]> By: Nobody http://themoderatevoice.com/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-76150 Nobody Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:54:29 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/war/iraq/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/#comment-76150 So the wall between Mexico and the USA is Rush Limbaughs fault? So the wall between Mexico and the USA is Rush Limbaughs fault?

]]> By: kritter http://themoderatevoice.com/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-76136 kritter Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:28:21 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/war/iraq/12355/bush-im-telling-you-four-years-already-were-making-progress/#comment-76136 Mexico and the US are two different countries- but you should ask yourself why they are building a superhighway in Mexico that will unite the North American continent. Hint- the wall is a gimmick- the idea is to pacify the Limbaugh crowd. The real goal is to build the superhighway and oil pipeline coming up from Mexico--its about tearing down boundaries to create one big market. Mexico and the US are two different countries- but you should ask yourself why they are building a superhighway in Mexico that will unite the North American continent. Hint- the wall is a gimmick- the idea is to pacify the Limbaugh crowd. The real goal is to build the superhighway and oil pipeline coming up from Mexico–its about tearing down boundaries to create one big market.

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