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		<title>By: White Agent</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/12342/fallen-angel/comment-page-1/#comment-76075</link>
		<dc:creator>White Agent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 12:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just saw the latest CNN video. Looks like he stalled it in a turn trying to catch up. Screw Up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just saw the latest CNN video. Looks like he stalled it in a turn trying to catch up. Screw Up.</p>
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		<title>By: White Agent</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/12342/fallen-angel/comment-page-1/#comment-76025</link>
		<dc:creator>White Agent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Rich Newman&lt;/strong&gt;- Yeah, but he hit a tree. He was out of control from that second on. He protected no one because he was out of control and probably dead before he hit the ground. So year after year they put civilians at risk ANYWAY just to wow the kids! What kind of heroics is that?! You are right, I was rough, but this is a stupid policy that kills people for little reason.

&lt;strong&gt;carpeicthus&lt;/strong&gt;- Yes you are right, I should have been more sensitive. If you run into MMS Navy....give him a kiss for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Rich Newman</strong>- Yeah, but he hit a tree. He was out of control from that second on. He protected no one because he was out of control and probably dead before he hit the ground. So year after year they put civilians at risk ANYWAY just to wow the kids! What kind of heroics is that?! You are right, I was rough, but this is a stupid policy that kills people for little reason.</p>
<p><strong>carpeicthus</strong>- Yes you are right, I should have been more sensitive. If you run into MMS Navy&#8230;.give him a kiss for me.</p>
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		<title>By: White Agent</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/12342/fallen-angel/comment-page-1/#comment-76022</link>
		<dc:creator>White Agent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corrado Conti- Yes yes gang pile on me for speaking the truth. 

The poor bastard ate a pine tree, nearly killed some people and wasted every cent we spent on training him and the buying/maintaining the machine he was riding...meanwhile how many died in Iraq this week? 

These flight demonstration teams are merely WAY OVER EXPENSIVE recruiting tools. Instead of sucking the tax base dry with billions and billions for stupid cartoon TV adds and flight &quot;show off teams&quot;, by something that barks over here and breaks crap over there! Or create another infantry brigade, god knows we are short of them.

Look, if Americans don&#039;t want to join the military to serve their country for patrotic reasons,  there is a reason why and all this expensive &quot;salesmanship&quot; is just for covering up that reason!

However......may God grant him and his family peace. I am quite certain that his veteran status is considerably greater than mine. My apologies for being rough. I blame the system, not him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corrado Conti- Yes yes gang pile on me for speaking the truth. </p>
<p>The poor bastard ate a pine tree, nearly killed some people and wasted every cent we spent on training him and the buying/maintaining the machine he was riding&#8230;meanwhile how many died in Iraq this week? </p>
<p>These flight demonstration teams are merely WAY OVER EXPENSIVE recruiting tools. Instead of sucking the tax base dry with billions and billions for stupid cartoon TV adds and flight &#8220;show off teams&#8221;, by something that barks over here and breaks crap over there! Or create another infantry brigade, god knows we are short of them.</p>
<p>Look, if Americans don&#8217;t want to join the military to serve their country for patrotic reasons,  there is a reason why and all this expensive &#8220;salesmanship&#8221; is just for covering up that reason!</p>
<p>However&#8230;&#8230;may God grant him and his family peace. I am quite certain that his veteran status is considerably greater than mine. My apologies for being rough. I blame the system, not him.</p>
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		<title>By: White Agent</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/12342/fallen-angel/comment-page-1/#comment-76019</link>
		<dc:creator>White Agent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 06:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MMS US NAVY- Oh no no no big mouth. 

Don&#039;t twist it into some heroic act. He didn&#039;t &quot;die for me&quot;. He died because he screwed up. Like our &quot;elite&quot; in Iraq. He CHOSE to be a demonstration team pilot. Its a career move. These demonstartion teams are a waste of money in a time when money is tight. How arrogant you are to suggest such a greedy path.

You rant about congress pay raise as if it was my decision.  Earth to swabbie...it wasn&#039;t, but it shows that the minimum wage, hell even the average wage is way to LOW!

Again no, your neocon &quot;fiscal conservatism&quot; has just about bankrupt the country. We are putting an end to decentralization of the tax revenue. Look dummy either the states raise taxes or the fed does. What you advocate is just a corporate ploy to weaken our &quot;government of the people&quot; so they can screw the public. However I knew there had to be a neocon political message here, and that destroyed your credibility. 

Look buddy, my veterans status is JUST AS GOOD as yours and my VOTE EQUALS ONE just like yours therefore you are no more an American than I am. 

Except maybe in your self made mental delusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MMS US NAVY- Oh no no no big mouth. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t twist it into some heroic act. He didn&#8217;t &#8220;die for me&#8221;. He died because he screwed up. Like our &#8220;elite&#8221; in Iraq. He CHOSE to be a demonstration team pilot. Its a career move. These demonstartion teams are a waste of money in a time when money is tight. How arrogant you are to suggest such a greedy path.</p>
<p>You rant about congress pay raise as if it was my decision.  Earth to swabbie&#8230;it wasn&#8217;t, but it shows that the minimum wage, hell even the average wage is way to LOW!</p>
<p>Again no, your neocon &#8220;fiscal conservatism&#8221; has just about bankrupt the country. We are putting an end to decentralization of the tax revenue. Look dummy either the states raise taxes or the fed does. What you advocate is just a corporate ploy to weaken our &#8220;government of the people&#8221; so they can screw the public. However I knew there had to be a neocon political message here, and that destroyed your credibility. </p>
<p>Look buddy, my veterans status is JUST AS GOOD as yours and my VOTE EQUALS ONE just like yours therefore you are no more an American than I am. </p>
<p>Except maybe in your self made mental delusion.</p>
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		<title>By: carpeicthus</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/12342/fallen-angel/comment-page-1/#comment-76012</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 06:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>White Agent: Have you considered that there&#039;s a way to make that political point without being a jerk? It is wasteful -- no, the Blue Angels aren&#039;t protecting our freedoms any more than the Harlem Globetrotters -- but there&#039;s no need to disrespect a dead man and damned fine pilot because you disagree with a national policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>White Agent: Have you considered that there&#8217;s a way to make that political point without being a jerk? It is wasteful &#8212; no, the Blue Angels aren&#8217;t protecting our freedoms any more than the Harlem Globetrotters &#8212; but there&#8217;s no need to disrespect a dead man and damned fine pilot because you disagree with a national policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Newman</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/12342/fallen-angel/comment-page-1/#comment-76003</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 05:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the honor of seeing this team fly at MacDill Air Force Base on Saturday March 31st.  The flying was tops and I am deeply saddened to learn of this horrible accident.  My prayers go out to this young man&#039;s family and the entire Blue Angels&#039; organization.

Corrado, I wasn&#039;t there in that cockpit today, but I can assure you your thinking is correct.  Speaking as one who has flown, there is an &quot;un-written&quot; rule in the world of pilots.  You don&#039;t hurt people on the ground if you can avoid it, even if it means taking your own life.  Ejection is always a possibility.  This young man stayed in that aircraft to protect innocent lives on the ground, and from what I have heard so far, he did a damned good job of it.  He is a hero in my opinion, and I salute him with highest respect possible.

As for the comments posted by White Agent ... I feel sorry for you.  That you could make such flippant remarks after the loss of human life says very little about the Blue Angels, but a whole lot about you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the honor of seeing this team fly at MacDill Air Force Base on Saturday March 31st.  The flying was tops and I am deeply saddened to learn of this horrible accident.  My prayers go out to this young man&#8217;s family and the entire Blue Angels&#8217; organization.</p>
<p>Corrado, I wasn&#8217;t there in that cockpit today, but I can assure you your thinking is correct.  Speaking as one who has flown, there is an &#8220;un-written&#8221; rule in the world of pilots.  You don&#8217;t hurt people on the ground if you can avoid it, even if it means taking your own life.  Ejection is always a possibility.  This young man stayed in that aircraft to protect innocent lives on the ground, and from what I have heard so far, he did a damned good job of it.  He is a hero in my opinion, and I salute him with highest respect possible.</p>
<p>As for the comments posted by White Agent &#8230; I feel sorry for you.  That you could make such flippant remarks after the loss of human life says very little about the Blue Angels, but a whole lot about you.</p>
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		<title>By: Corrado Conti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corrado Conti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 04:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>White Agent, I am appalled by your insensitivity. What the hell is wrong with you?
Yes it&#039;s expensive, yes there is hunger in the world and we need health care, but do you think that grounding the Blue angels is going to get us single payer insurance?
Do you think the guy wanted to crash in a civilian neighborhood? My guess is he didn&#039;t eject because he was over a residential area and he might have tried to keep the plane from crashing there. We&#039;ll never know, but what I do know is that the Blue Angels have brought me and many others untold joy each time I have seen them fly.

Your comment, on the other hand, is completely superfluous and reminds me of the cranky old man that lived down the street. So bitter he wasn&#039;t ever able to enjoy life for the sheer beauty of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>White Agent, I am appalled by your insensitivity. What the hell is wrong with you?<br />
Yes it&#8217;s expensive, yes there is hunger in the world and we need health care, but do you think that grounding the Blue angels is going to get us single payer insurance?<br />
Do you think the guy wanted to crash in a civilian neighborhood? My guess is he didn&#8217;t eject because he was over a residential area and he might have tried to keep the plane from crashing there. We&#8217;ll never know, but what I do know is that the Blue Angels have brought me and many others untold joy each time I have seen them fly.</p>
<p>Your comment, on the other hand, is completely superfluous and reminds me of the cranky old man that lived down the street. So bitter he wasn&#8217;t ever able to enjoy life for the sheer beauty of it.</p>
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		<title>By: MMS US NAVY</title>
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		<dc:creator>MMS US NAVY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 03:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Best of the Best JUST SACRIFICED THEIR LIFE for you...FOR YOU.  For all of US -- U.S.  Spend money for the military, you pay for freedom.  OUR FREEDOM.  Our ELITE fight for us every day; so every now and then WE get the opportunity to see just HOW they fly for OUR Freedom.  And TRUST ME, be it the NAVY, Air Force, Marines, Army, Guard, if they are the elite, they can instruct the next generation.  

Maybe you should think about not allowing CONGRESS to give themselves a bloody freaking payraise that the rest of us do not receive annually.

Worry about education, see it in your State taxes.  Well, start at home.  Common Sense --  Self respect and Responsibility.  

Without our military, and our FREEDOM THEY provide, well...find a cave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Best of the Best JUST SACRIFICED THEIR LIFE for you&#8230;FOR YOU.  For all of US &#8212; U.S.  Spend money for the military, you pay for freedom.  OUR FREEDOM.  Our ELITE fight for us every day; so every now and then WE get the opportunity to see just HOW they fly for OUR Freedom.  And TRUST ME, be it the NAVY, Air Force, Marines, Army, Guard, if they are the elite, they can instruct the next generation.  </p>
<p>Maybe you should think about not allowing CONGRESS to give themselves a bloody freaking payraise that the rest of us do not receive annually.</p>
<p>Worry about education, see it in your State taxes.  Well, start at home.  Common Sense &#8212;  Self respect and Responsibility.  </p>
<p>Without our military, and our FREEDOM THEY provide, well&#8230;find a cave.</p>
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		<title>By: White Agent</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/12342/fallen-angel/comment-page-1/#comment-75948</link>
		<dc:creator>White Agent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 23:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>naw--so what. 

We don&#039;t need to spend tax money for this BS while so many are without healthcare, unable to advance because they cannot afford the education, (which should be free),  and, old people of the &quot;greatest generation&quot; are forgotten by an ungrateful selfish capitalist nation.  Instead we spend BILLIONS to have BS military glorification show-boat flight teams risking citizens lives even in their own homes. 

What are they trying to sell anyway? I mean the best of the best just rammed a pine tree up his arse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>naw&#8211;so what. </p>
<p>We don&#8217;t need to spend tax money for this BS while so many are without healthcare, unable to advance because they cannot afford the education, (which should be free),  and, old people of the &#8220;greatest generation&#8221; are forgotten by an ungrateful selfish capitalist nation.  Instead we spend BILLIONS to have BS military glorification show-boat flight teams risking citizens lives even in their own homes. </p>
<p>What are they trying to sell anyway? I mean the best of the best just rammed a pine tree up his arse.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynx</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/12342/fallen-angel/comment-page-1/#comment-75935</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 22:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May he rest in peace. The Blue Angels passed often by San Francisco, I remember standing on the roof as a child and seeing them pass, and afterwards &lt;em&gt;hearing&lt;/em&gt; them pass. It was an amazing sight, they have brought joy to many.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May he rest in peace. The Blue Angels passed often by San Francisco, I remember standing on the roof as a child and seeing them pass, and afterwards <em>hearing</em> them pass. It was an amazing sight, they have brought joy to many.</p>
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