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Blatant ‘Anti-Muslim’ garbage… and the cartoon figure doesn’t look at all like Yigal Amir.
Bravo. Psychotic behavior is what it is, whether for oneself or one’s God.
This was a good one.
Remember that we post a variety of cartoonists viewpoints. Those are their veiwpoints and if you look at large number of cartoons, they don’t all share the same perspective.
No No Joe, your objectivity efforts are not perfect but truly appreciated. I am convinced that true objectivity is not possible because everybody has at least one belief to project and defend.
There is worth in this cartoon. I’m sure of it.
I. too. enjoy the wide range of cartoons that get posted on TMV.
As far as being bothered by other perspectives IMO if you only read what you agree with you don’t leave much room for learning.
TCV is a forum where people from all sides of an issue can disagree and still, for the most part, remain civil… Thanks Joe and please keep the Cagle Cartoons coming.
I support free speech, and I applaud your posting of controversial cartoons – so long as eventually we all get lambasted. However, I think the rationale behind this Virginia Tech cartoon is a stretch, at best.
As soon as the Virginia Tech tragedy happened, the special interest groups crawled out of the woodwork to spin it for their cause.
- Fox News was investigating what type of “angry” music the shooter listened to on his iPod.
- Gun control advocates criticized the accessibility of handguns to someone with a history of mental illness.
And now, we have people trying to correlate a loner’s mass murder in Appalachia with Islamic extremists.
So many with a political agenda try to spin a tragedy in their favor. Most are far from the truth – and closer to one another than they care to admit.
I think you might be misreading the cartoon.
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Sorry, but that cartoon is SPOT ON.
see also:
http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2007/04/youve-got-to-be-carefully-taught.html
http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2007/04/parallel-psycho-paths-violence-and.html
and, especially:
http://www.pmw.org.il/
to see how they indoctrinate their youth into the cult of bloodlust, and hate.
And read this whole article. It isn’t very long.
When Arab child rearing reads like Cho’s video, only a fool could miss the similarities.
SPOT ON!
Mayor- get real. The cartoon is not attacking nor correlating the killers, but critiquing the American and media response.
Why is a lone gunman with wacky beliefs ok to call a nut, but if those beliefs belong to a suicide bomber who believes crazy shit- cuz some idiotic imam says so, you cannot/will not call it crazy? Because one might offend a religion. By it’s nature, religion- or a belief in the immaterial, is psychotic.
If the Son Of Sam claims a dog told him to gun down people, he’s a nut, but if it’s the Virgin Mary he’s a martyr?
Psychosis is psychosis- whether because of a chemical imbalance in the brain that makes one go postal, become a serial killer, a terrorist, or a Mafia hitman w/no feelings. Religion does not obviate the insanity, although it may aid it.
Yes.
Very well said.
With the reference to “72 Virgins” it’s hard to see how someone can say that the cartoon â€?is not attacking nor correlating the killersâ€? with Muslims.
Which is it yonason?
If your neighbor is fat, Steve, and you are too, and a 3rd person is making fun of your fat neighbor, because he does not like him, but respectful of you and your feelings because he likes you, the neighbor is a hypocrit, like the media.
If a cartoon or a 4th party says that, ‘Hey, your buddy (i.e.- you) is also fat,’ is the 4th party making fun of the pair of fatties or taking on the hypocrisy of the 3rd party who makes fun of only one of you for obesity?
Clearly, the 4th party/cartoon is taking a shot at the hypocrite, not the fatties. It’s called critical thinking, Steve. What have you missed?
critical thinking, eh?
* Your neighbor, cosmoetica, just shot and killed 33 people.
* You point out a likeness of him transposed with Anti-Muslim talking points.
* To make sure nobody misses your point you toss in a 72 Virgins reference.
I will leave out the ‘What’s a’matta’u?’ ‘Can’t you think?’ remarks, because they add nothing to a conversation.
If I promise to read slowly would you address the points I’ve tried to make and explain how how you see the cartoon DOES NOT equate Cho to Muslims.
I will address your points, by pointing out my prior post. Did you actually read it? No, lest you would not type what you did.
Again, how is the target of the cartoon NOT the media and dumb American public?
Easy, I guess, since you did not get the point: you’s them- as Pogo might say.
And the correlation of the killers is by virtue of their murderousness- the cartoon is not stetching any facts to make the point- it is attacking the lack of condemnation the media brings.
Just as the two fatties are correlated by their obesity, not the fact that anyone else notices they’re fat.
So, R-E-A-D S-L-O-W-L-Y, again the above. Got it?
Any ‘What’s a’matta’u?’ ‘Can’t you think?’ remarks are only made when there is something the matter with you, or you are not thinking. Again, like the correlation, it is there as a presented fact, I- like the cartoon, am commenting on it, not stretching the facts.
After SLOWLY reading your three disjointed attempts to reply to my last post I realize I”m trying to communicate with a child (these remarks are only made only because you quite obviously are but a child).
Implying that you’re addressing my points by going back to your asinine little story about a fat neighbor was a good one… the “Lard Approach”. Ha!
When I was a kid my mother used to tell me not to play with the vegatables so I’m not going to play with you anymore. You don’t seem to have grasped the concept of respectful debate. Don’t worry though, your witty remarks, to others, will certainly keep me entertained.
Steve- ‘Duh! Look at the birdies, mommy,’ would have been more cogent and concise a reply.
What’s a’matta’u?
IS THERE A CORRELATION OR ISN’T THERE? (paraphrasing SteveK)
The answer is, “NO.”
“. . . and YES.”
The MAIN point of the cartoon was, as cosmoetica said , NOT the correlation, but the MSM hypocricy for calling Cho a crazed killer instead of a “martyr” or “freedom fighter,” DESPITE the obvious similarities.
It’s a subtle point missed by those whose cognitive development has been arrested in early adolescence.
E.g., the “concrete operational” thinker “Can perform operations on objects that are immediately present or easily imagined. [but] Cannot handle abstractions of abstractions.”
It’s a symptom far more prevalent on the Left than on the Right, for some reason.
It’s a shame when you gotta haul out a dictionary for some folks. I thought my analogy on mocking the fat people was easy enough for Steve-O to grasp.