Comments on: Virginia Tech and A Grisly Historic Footnote http://themoderatevoice.com/12319/virginia-tech-and-an-historic-footnote/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Sun, 27 May 2012 20:45:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Orson Buggeigh http://themoderatevoice.com/12319/virginia-tech-and-an-historic-footnote/comment-page-1/#comment-75974 Orson Buggeigh Sun, 22 Apr 2007 02:00:13 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/society/crime/12319/virginia-tech-and-an-historic-footnote/#comment-75974 Thanks for the link, Shaun. This is one of the events I was thinking of when I remarked earlier that the problem isn't a shortage of gun control, or too many firearms too readily available. The problem is dealing with an unstable element in human nature, and there is probably no way to make ourselves entirely safe from it. But as my original point was - look, you can kill just as many, or more, with alternative methods as with firearms. Box cutters and suicidal jihadists turned airplanes into firebombs. An angry school board member blows up a school. The Oklahoma City bomb was manufactured from fertilizer and fuel oil. Guns are not the real problem - the real problem is dealing with the violent aspec t that appears in many people. Note - I do NOT say "Americans" or "Moslems" or name any nationality or group. We are all probably prone to this to varying degrees, and killers have included born in USA former servicemen, religious extremists from overseas, foreign born folks, and all sorts of others. I think we are not helping when we suggest that this is one group's problem. It is the human race's problem. I am not sure how we can prevent future occurances. I would like to think we can, but I am enough of a realist to believe that such a hope is naive at best. Maybe not sensationalizing these events would be a start. Again, I do not seriously expect that to happen. Thanks for the link, Shaun. This is one of the events I was thinking of when I remarked earlier that the problem isn’t a shortage of gun control, or too many firearms too readily available. The problem is dealing with an unstable element in human nature, and there is probably no way to make ourselves entirely safe from it.

But as my original point was – look, you can kill just as many, or more, with alternative methods as with firearms. Box cutters and suicidal jihadists turned airplanes into firebombs. An angry school board member blows up a school. The Oklahoma City bomb was manufactured from fertilizer and fuel oil. Guns are not the real problem – the real problem is dealing with the violent aspec t that appears in many people.

Note – I do NOT say “Americans” or “Moslems” or name any nationality or group. We are all probably prone to this to varying degrees, and killers have included born in USA former servicemen, religious extremists from overseas, foreign born folks, and all sorts of others. I think we are not helping when we suggest that this is one group’s problem. It is the human race’s problem. I am not sure how we can prevent future occurances. I would like to think we can, but I am enough of a realist to believe that such a hope is naive at best. Maybe not sensationalizing these events would be a start. Again, I do not seriously expect that to happen.

]]> By: Rudi http://themoderatevoice.com/12319/virginia-tech-and-an-historic-footnote/comment-page-1/#comment-75798 Rudi Sat, 21 Apr 2007 13:03:19 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/society/crime/12319/virginia-tech-and-an-historic-footnote/#comment-75798 Shaun - If you're still monitoring your post the link doesn't work. A little Google helped with the Bath Water. The farmer and John N. Collins are imfamous Michigan serial/mass murders. Does Derby bath or shower with Krauthammer in a biblical sense. Shaun – If you’re still monitoring your post the link doesn’t work. A little Google helped with the Bath Water. The farmer and John N. Collins are imfamous Michigan serial/mass murders. Does Derby bath or shower with Krauthammer in a biblical sense.

]]> By: Holly in Cincinnati http://themoderatevoice.com/12319/virginia-tech-and-an-historic-footnote/comment-page-1/#comment-75755 Holly in Cincinnati Sat, 21 Apr 2007 00:44:28 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/society/crime/12319/virginia-tech-and-an-historic-footnote/#comment-75755 The TMV Proofreader struck! The TMV Proofreader struck!

]]> By: White Agent http://themoderatevoice.com/12319/virginia-tech-and-an-historic-footnote/comment-page-1/#comment-75726 White Agent Fri, 20 Apr 2007 21:50:44 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/society/crime/12319/virginia-tech-and-an-historic-footnote/#comment-75726 Oh lets not forget 300 blacks slaughtered in Tulsa, 1921 and their financially successful town burned to the ground. Hell with easy gun procurement, you can start your own damn war. Oh lets not forget 300 blacks slaughtered in Tulsa, 1921 and their financially successful town burned to the ground. Hell with easy gun procurement, you can start your own damn war.

]]> By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/12319/virginia-tech-and-an-historic-footnote/comment-page-1/#comment-75711 DLS Fri, 20 Apr 2007 21:10:40 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/society/crime/12319/virginia-tech-and-an-historic-footnote/#comment-75711 Hey, hey! The title changed. Hey, hey! The title changed.

]]> By: domajot http://themoderatevoice.com/12319/virginia-tech-and-an-historic-footnote/comment-page-1/#comment-75709 domajot Fri, 20 Apr 2007 21:08:13 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/society/crime/12319/virginia-tech-and-an-historic-footnote/#comment-75709 That was a dumb thing I just said. The days-long arguments finally got the better of my judgment. That was a dumb thing I just said. The days-long arguments finally got the better of my judgment.

]]> By: domajot http://themoderatevoice.com/12319/virginia-tech-and-an-historic-footnote/comment-page-1/#comment-75706 domajot Fri, 20 Apr 2007 21:03:31 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/society/crime/12319/virginia-tech-and-an-historic-footnote/#comment-75706 So, does this mean every one should pack dynamite as self defense? So, does this mean every one should pack dynamite as self defense?

]]> By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/12319/virginia-tech-and-an-historic-footnote/comment-page-1/#comment-75677 DLS Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:55:55 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/society/crime/12319/virginia-tech-and-an-historic-footnote/#comment-75677 Judging from the title, I expected to hear of multiple bear attacks. *wink* Judging from the title, I expected to hear of multiple bear attacks.

*wink*

]]> By: Sam http://themoderatevoice.com/12319/virginia-tech-and-an-historic-footnote/comment-page-1/#comment-75676 Sam Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:51:22 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/society/crime/12319/virginia-tech-and-an-historic-footnote/#comment-75676 Broken people, a scourge on the world no matter what day and age. Broken people, a scourge on the world no matter what day and age.

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