is this what we need ?…no!

usa kills who they want when they want why should they be allowed nukes?
USA is the only country that has used nukes another countrie (japan)

we should stop usa making nukes

at least the U.N. is democratic and more peaceful
than the usa

at the moment GEORGE W. BUSH is the worlds biggest TERRORIST!

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Article VI and the preamble indicate that the NWS parties pursue plans to reduce and liquidate their stockpiles; Article VI also calls for “…a Treaty on general and complete disarmament under strict and effective international control.”

Sorry, the U.S. does not comply with it’s obligations under the treaty, without good-faith efforts to dismantle its nuclear arsenal.

It’s disgusting hypocrisy — not holding Israel to a higher standard which “it should be expected to meet.”

Israel goes out of its way to concede even in warfare and reprisal against terrorism and it gets criticized, while the media often not only minimize or conceal the uglier conduct of Israel’s enemies (who don’t fight with white gloves on and one hand deliberately tied behind the back, but fight dirty as well as in cowardly and cynical ways, such as from within civilian populations), but at times express sympathy with the opposition, who are criminal.

It’s not just the liberal media here in the States, either.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=444074&in_page_id=1770

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/legal/article2398870.ece

http://www.bbcwatch.co.uk/index.html

http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/45884734/reports/Jeningrad_What_the_British_Media_Said.asp

http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/45884734/critiques/Report_Critical_of_BBC_Mideast_Coverage.asp

http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/45884734/critiques/Documenting_BBC_Documentaries.asp

http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/45884734/critiques/The_Guardians_Demonization_Campaign.asp

http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/reports/European_Media_and_Anti-Israel_Bias.asp

http://www.honestreporting.com/

http://www.camera.org/

http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_1991to_now_media_anti_israel_bias.php

http://www.tampabayprimer.org/index.cfm?action=leftNav&drill=antiIsrael

I’m not making that claim. Are you referring to the US-India Civilian Nuclear Cooperation Initiative? Are you talking about the Reliable Replacement Warhead (which is a perfectly reasonable undertaking, too)? Other new warheads in exchange for scrapping the old, such as those we need to destroy hardened or deeply buried targets (such as in Iran)? Complex 2030?

It’s this nation’s adversaries that find such things provocative (the NPT is irrelevent) as well as some who don’t want improvements to our capability but also to our reliability and safety.

> “might makes right� system
> that follows from your line of
> thinking.

It does not follow (particularly from fiction).

Israel is not going to leave.

The Palestinians are not going to leave.

So now what?

There has been much talk about the Arab aggression of 1948. Like the war in 1967, the historical facts do not support the characterization that the war was pure a byproduct of the assault by the Arab armies. If one looks at the action prior to the start of the war, one would get some sense of the progression of events. The Haganah, the predecessor to the IDF, had occupied most major cities in the Arab ‘state’ of UN GAR 181 in the months preceding the war. Arab villages were attacked, their residents ‘encouraged’ to leave, and the villages itselve burnt to the ground to discourage any prospects of return. Etzel and Lehi, who were more radicalized groups of Jewish resistance in the Palestine mandate, had gone much further and committed documented atrocities against unarmed Palestinian Arab civilians (e.g. incidents like the Deir Yassin massacre). Palestinian Arabs left their land en masse because of fear of what would happen to them at the hands of the Jewish forces.

There is little doubt that the Arabs did indeed have a substantial hand in starting the war in 1948. It is fairly clear and evident that anti-Jewish rhetoric coming from Cairo, Amman, Damascus, Beirut, and Baghdad was very strong. The flood of Palestinian refugees into the neighboring countries brought with it stories of the atrocities that they had to endure, which only helped to inflame the situation even further. It is also without question that Arab armies did indeed initiate the war and attacked Israel. However, it would be a mistake to characterize Israel as an innocent victim of aggression or that Israel had any intentions of honoring UN GAR 181 irrespective of the Arab attack.

The one glaring weakness of this argument is that Israel did not start the war and was only defending herself. Since this time Israel has given back 95 percent of all lands seized during the 1967 war. The only thing left is the farms which basically I am assuming they are holding onto for symbolic reasons.

Meaning they are not going to give 100 percent until their is sufficient reason to expect doing so will benefit them.

Yet this 95 percent is not good enough. The anti semites continue to pin the label of war monger on Israel while we watch the Palestinians bomb Israelis and then the Israelis respond with bulldozers.

There never is camera around filming the Palestinians blowing up women and children but their is always cameras around showing the Israelis bulldozing houses in response.

If we watch enough bulldozers we tend to forget about the dead Israelis being scraped off walls and sympathize with those poor Palestinians who had their house bulldozed. I think its time for the Palestinians to rise up and throw off their own shackles.. Hamas. And take back their life. End the violence. End the terror and seek peace.

If the Palestinians lay down their guns there will be peace. If Israel lays down its guns their will be Genocide.

What good are laws and treaties if one side considers itself exempt from them? While there are many faults within our international system of law, I think most sane people agree that it’s better than the “might makes right” system that follows from your line of thinking.

Israel is not required to evacuate all the Territories.

> exposing your hypocrisy

Iran is not our peer. Kindly refrain from game-playing about that fact.

Yes after the civilians were gone.

“the use of cluster munitions against built-up areas was done only against military targets where rocket launches against Israel were identified and after taking steps to warn the civilian population.”

We can go round and round. Israel is our ally. Not our Proxy.

Had you not thrown this into your statement I would not have referenced this. This is a flat out lie. Carpet bombing is what we did in WW2 or the B52’s did in Iraq and Vietnam. Dropping 108 250lb bombs is carpet bombing. Israel was using precision guided weapons and precisely guided artillery. Secondly perhaps up for debate by anti semites but the Jewish state is not our proxy.

Precision guided cluster bombs?
IDF admits targeting civilian areas in Lebanon with cluster bombs

Not our proxy eh?
US rushes Precision-Guided Bombs to Israel

But nowhere did I call you a liar. I said you used half truths to make your point. I said there is two sides to every story and that I just wanted to let everyone know the rest of the story.

Now you can link to a post that says hey we are for peace all day long. But when the guy is for a peace plan that is opposed by the Hammas who has openly stated they are opposed to it, then he is just playing Political football and everyone knows it.

Actually Israel would accept this plan if Hammas would too.

Our proxy Israel also carpet bombed Lebanon last summer,

Had you not thrown this into your statement I would not have referenced this. This is a flat out lie. Carpet bombing is what we did in WW2 or the B52’s did in Iraq and Vietnam. Dropping 108 250lb bombs is carpet bombing. Israel was using precision guided weapons and precisely guided artillery. Secondly perhaps up for debate by anti semites but the Jewish state is not our proxy.

However you use some truths and then throw in some lies and together they form the thesis of your point. Therefore I can only conclude that you use half truths and some lies to make your point.

Iran is not the peer of the USA or the rest of the West morally and doesn’t deserve the same rights the responsible nations have.

So the United States unique moral position gives it the right to violate treaties?

Thanks for exposing your hypocrisy in the clearest terms possible.

Do you mean the Saudis’ peace plan, the one that demands Israel retreat to the 1967 lines

The acquisition of territory by force is inadmissible, according to the United Nations Charter, the principles of international law, and many Security Council resolutions.

The Ayatollah of Iran supports normalization of relations with Israel

Scraping the surface again, eh?

Do you mean the Saudis’ peace plan, the one that demands Israel retreat to the 1967 lines (which are suicidal and which Israel is not required to do) and accept “right of return” [sic] not only of real refugees (of 1946) but their descendents (which makes no sense at all)?

Forced regression like that is merely partial, incremental destruction of Israel. That’s not your goal, too, is it?

I read that site from time to time already (it’s a good one), but thanks just the same.

Oh, and of course I read MEMRI from time to time, too.