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		<title>By: CanadianB</title>
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		<dc:creator>CanadianB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 07:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>also, I&#039;d like to add that last year, in my city of 380,000 people, there were a total of 10 murders.. 2 by gun. 1 by poison. 2 by fire. 1 by strangulation. and 4 by knives. 

It is amazing how canadians seem to be able to live in peace with the neighbour that doesn&#039;t look like us, but the USA is afraid to welcome peopl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also, I&#8217;d like to add that last year, in my city of 380,000 people, there were a total of 10 murders.. 2 by gun. 1 by poison. 2 by fire. 1 by strangulation. and 4 by knives. </p>
<p>It is amazing how canadians seem to be able to live in peace with the neighbour that doesn&#8217;t look like us, but the USA is afraid to welcome peopl.</p>
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		<title>By: CanadianB</title>
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		<dc:creator>CanadianB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 07:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is pretty pathetic racism in here, saying the killer was muslim?

no wonder the USA ranked lowest of any developed nation in how it views the outside world. 78% of US residents had a negative view on other people around the world.


The Biggest problem in the USA isn&#039;t guns. It&#039;s bigotry and racism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is pretty pathetic racism in here, saying the killer was muslim?</p>
<p>no wonder the USA ranked lowest of any developed nation in how it views the outside world. 78% of US residents had a negative view on other people around the world.</p>
<p>The Biggest problem in the USA isn&#8217;t guns. It&#8217;s bigotry and racism.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 00:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And some more;

Abduction and kidnapping	Stable	 **
Attempted murder	Down	-4.20%
Indecent assault, other sexual offences	Stable	 **
Motor vehicle theft	Down	-7.20%
Prohibited and regulated weapons offences	Up	6.40%
Sexual assault	Up	1.00%
Steal from motor vehicle	Down	-2.30%
Steal from retail store	Down	-2.00%

Source: &lt;a href=&quot;http://bocd.lawlink.nsw.gov.au/bocd/cmd/ReportSelect&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; NSW Bureau of Crime Statistics&lt;/a&gt;. There&#039;s a neat little tool that generates Excel files for you. You can choose what types of criminal acts to measure and over which period. I choose the period 1996-2006.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And some more;</p>
<p>Abduction and kidnapping	Stable	 **<br />
Attempted murder	Down	-4.20%<br />
Indecent assault, other sexual offences	Stable	 **<br />
Motor vehicle theft	Down	-7.20%<br />
Prohibited and regulated weapons offences	Up	6.40%<br />
Sexual assault	Up	1.00%<br />
Steal from motor vehicle	Down	-2.30%<br />
Steal from retail store	Down	-2.00%</p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://bocd.lawlink.nsw.gov.au/bocd/cmd/ReportSelect" rel="nofollow"> NSW Bureau of Crime Statistics</a>. There&#8217;s a neat little tool that generates Excel files for you. You can choose what types of criminal acts to measure and over which period. I choose the period 1996-2006.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 00:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Trey&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;em&gt;â€œ* Australia: Readers of the USA Today newspaper discovered in 2002 that, â€œSince Australiaâ€™s 1996 laws banning most guns and making it a crime to use a gun defensively, armed robberies rose by 51%, unarmed robberies by 37%, assaults by 24% and kidnappings by 43%. While murders fell by 3%, manslaughter rose by 16%.â€?2&lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;ve seen these statistics quoted before, no-one seems to quote a source other than a newspaper article. 

Here are some statistics from the NSW Bureau of Crime Statistics [NSW is the most populated state of Australia]:

From January 1997 to December 2006 these are the trends in the following crimes;


Murder	Down	-2.40%
Assault - Not domestic violence related	Up	2.00%
Assault - Domestic violence related	Up	5.30%
Robbery without a weapon	Down	-3.20%
Robbery with a firearm	Down	-8.50%
Robbery with a weapon not a firearm	Down	-5.50%
Break and enter - dwelling	Down	-5.50%
Break and enter - non-dwelling	Down	-5.60%</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Trey</strong> <em>â€œ* Australia: Readers of the USA Today newspaper discovered in 2002 that, â€œSince Australiaâ€™s 1996 laws banning most guns and making it a crime to use a gun defensively, armed robberies rose by 51%, unarmed robberies by 37%, assaults by 24% and kidnappings by 43%. While murders fell by 3%, manslaughter rose by 16%.â€?2</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen these statistics quoted before, no-one seems to quote a source other than a newspaper article. </p>
<p>Here are some statistics from the NSW Bureau of Crime Statistics [NSW is the most populated state of Australia]:</p>
<p>From January 1997 to December 2006 these are the trends in the following crimes;</p>
<p>Murder	Down	-2.40%<br />
Assault &#8211; Not domestic violence related	Up	2.00%<br />
Assault &#8211; Domestic violence related	Up	5.30%<br />
Robbery without a weapon	Down	-3.20%<br />
Robbery with a firearm	Down	-8.50%<br />
Robbery with a weapon not a firearm	Down	-5.50%<br />
Break and enter &#8211; dwelling	Down	-5.50%<br />
Break and enter &#8211; non-dwelling	Down	-5.60%</p>
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		<title>By: Werner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Werner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 00:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the Canadian province of Saskatchewan the murder rate is 4.5 per hundred thousand. The city of Regina is considered the most dangerous in the country. I hear that Washington, DC has a rate ten times ours. Is this true?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Canadian province of Saskatchewan the murder rate is 4.5 per hundred thousand. The city of Regina is considered the most dangerous in the country. I hear that Washington, DC has a rate ten times ours. Is this true?</p>
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		<title>By: Mel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 21:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a student as ASU I am surprised to find a conflict about guns. If you realize 33 people lay dead. 32 who had no idea what was going to happen when they got up that morning! 33 families are torn apart. Friends will never again get to talk, see, and hear from those people again. And all you worry about is guns. Guns arenâ€™t always the problem. There are many reports that the shooter needed help, and was depressed. I am disgusted that the first thing to enter peoples mind is that of racism. Who care what the color of the skin, or their religious belief, they were disturbed and needed help! Instead of criticizing we should be uniting and try to prevent further attacks! Think about that when you blame everyone else. No one reached out to this kid. No one made the effort. Next time it could be you or your kids!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a student as ASU I am surprised to find a conflict about guns. If you realize 33 people lay dead. 32 who had no idea what was going to happen when they got up that morning! 33 families are torn apart. Friends will never again get to talk, see, and hear from those people again. And all you worry about is guns. Guns arenâ€™t always the problem. There are many reports that the shooter needed help, and was depressed. I am disgusted that the first thing to enter peoples mind is that of racism. Who care what the color of the skin, or their religious belief, they were disturbed and needed help! Instead of criticizing we should be uniting and try to prevent further attacks! Think about that when you blame everyone else. No one reached out to this kid. No one made the effort. Next time it could be you or your kids!</p>
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		<title>By: Supports It</title>
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		<dc:creator>Supports It</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i personally dont support his choice of weaponry, he should have used a .357 or something, get some BOOM HEADHOTS.

no but in all seriousness, go him. he&#039;s gonna be in the record books, and he&#039;s gonna be famous. i think i&#039;ll make a t-shirt with his face on it, and run through campus shouting &quot;YOU ALL GOT WHAT YOU DESERVED!!!!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i personally dont support his choice of weaponry, he should have used a .357 or something, get some BOOM HEADHOTS.</p>
<p>no but in all seriousness, go him. he&#8217;s gonna be in the record books, and he&#8217;s gonna be famous. i think i&#8217;ll make a t-shirt with his face on it, and run through campus shouting &#8220;YOU ALL GOT WHAT YOU DESERVED!!!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Japan

And the Euro-Trash dare call the USA the most racist nation there is?  *snicker*  You go there, gaijin.  You look here, too, gaijin.

http://www.kanai.net/weblog/archive/2003/01/07/10h34m34s

http://www.debito.org/index.php/?p=192

http://japanfocus.org/products/details/2386

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=14169

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4671687.stm

http://www.dyske.com/index.php?view_id=677</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Japan</p>
<p>And the Euro-Trash dare call the USA the most racist nation there is?  *snicker*  You go there, gaijin.  You look here, too, gaijin.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kanai.net/weblog/archive/2003/01/07/10h34m34s" rel="nofollow">http://www.kanai.net/weblog/archive/2003/01/07/10h34m34s</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.debito.org/index.php/?p=192" rel="nofollow">http://www.debito.org/index.php/?p=192</a></p>
<p><a href="http://japanfocus.org/products/details/2386" rel="nofollow">http://japanfocus.org/products/details/2386</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=14169" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=14169</a></p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4671687.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4671687.stm</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.dyske.com/index.php?view_id=677" rel="nofollow">http://www.dyske.com/index.php?view_id=677</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the tragic shooting in Virginia yesterday, the fact is this rampage could have ended in two minutes if ordinary citizens were allowed to carry a firearm on their person at all times (yes, even on universities).

The shootings in Utah and Manhattan were prime examples and validations of the right of an ordinary citizen to keep and bear arms.  As you know, off duty officers ended both those conflicts in a short time.  Unfortunately, ordinary citizens CANNOT cary a firearm onto a university, and therefore EVERY single one of those students and faculty were left at the mercy of a lunatic with two guns.

In conclusion, the government bears responsibility for the high death toll on the Virginia Tech campus.  The reason we didn&#039;t have 30 people dead in Utah and Manhattan was because a law abiding citizen was there to kill the lunatic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the tragic shooting in Virginia yesterday, the fact is this rampage could have ended in two minutes if ordinary citizens were allowed to carry a firearm on their person at all times (yes, even on universities).</p>
<p>The shootings in Utah and Manhattan were prime examples and validations of the right of an ordinary citizen to keep and bear arms.  As you know, off duty officers ended both those conflicts in a short time.  Unfortunately, ordinary citizens CANNOT cary a firearm onto a university, and therefore EVERY single one of those students and faculty were left at the mercy of a lunatic with two guns.</p>
<p>In conclusion, the government bears responsibility for the high death toll on the Virginia Tech campus.  The reason we didn&#8217;t have 30 people dead in Utah and Manhattan was because a law abiding citizen was there to kill the lunatic.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone seen exactly who the victms were? It appears to me that this was a racist attact against European Americans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone seen exactly who the victms were? It appears to me that this was a racist attact against European Americans.</p>
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		<title>By: Jin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m an &quot;Asian&quot; United States male.  So as the person who apparently has the most educated outlook here, allow me to say a few things.  What if the shooter was born and raised in the USA?  Does it matter that he was asian looking?  Does it make Americans racists to say he was Asian?  No.  The media is looking to legally identify who the person was before the police will release the name.  Are US Americans racist?  Sure, some are.  But unfortunately many European and Asian countries are far more racist.  I so often see the sad belief that someone is part of the &quot;pure&quot; race.  I&#039;m 1/2 Korean, part German, Irish, Scottish, and French (I must really hate myself!).  Most US Americans are consistantly in the process of reforming their ideals of acceptance.  We generally tend to love other countries, not just for economics, but for history.  It&#039;s where we stem from.  How could we not like Poland if so many of us are Polish?  The USA is still a melting pot and its unfortunate that some people can be such bigots and not realize that we are just a large mixed voice with a lot of money.  As far as the problems all with the shootings; When you don&#039;t take care of your children, you children will choose whatever path they can find.  Yes many US Americans are lazy...in their parenting skills.  We leave it up to our government to educate our kids in a poorly structured school system when we should be educating them at home also in a fatherly/motherly manner instead of handing them more video games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an &#8220;Asian&#8221; United States male.  So as the person who apparently has the most educated outlook here, allow me to say a few things.  What if the shooter was born and raised in the USA?  Does it matter that he was asian looking?  Does it make Americans racists to say he was Asian?  No.  The media is looking to legally identify who the person was before the police will release the name.  Are US Americans racist?  Sure, some are.  But unfortunately many European and Asian countries are far more racist.  I so often see the sad belief that someone is part of the &#8220;pure&#8221; race.  I&#8217;m 1/2 Korean, part German, Irish, Scottish, and French (I must really hate myself!).  Most US Americans are consistantly in the process of reforming their ideals of acceptance.  We generally tend to love other countries, not just for economics, but for history.  It&#8217;s where we stem from.  How could we not like Poland if so many of us are Polish?  The USA is still a melting pot and its unfortunate that some people can be such bigots and not realize that we are just a large mixed voice with a lot of money.  As far as the problems all with the shootings; When you don&#8217;t take care of your children, you children will choose whatever path they can find.  Yes many US Americans are lazy&#8230;in their parenting skills.  We leave it up to our government to educate our kids in a poorly structured school system when we should be educating them at home also in a fatherly/motherly manner instead of handing them more video games.</p>
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		<title>By: poppy7</title>
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		<dc:creator>poppy7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>32 americans? Yawn, the more the better I say. What is all this fuss about? Americans are the most intimidating, aggressive, racist, self absorbed individuals on the planet, does anyone care about the hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis killed by your country the past few years? For Bush to get in a second term, let alone in the first instance, illustrates how uneducated and disconnected people are there. You people have no humanity, no conscience. I am so fortunate I don&#039;t live there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>32 americans? Yawn, the more the better I say. What is all this fuss about? Americans are the most intimidating, aggressive, racist, self absorbed individuals on the planet, does anyone care about the hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis killed by your country the past few years? For Bush to get in a second term, let alone in the first instance, illustrates how uneducated and disconnected people are there. You people have no humanity, no conscience. I am so fortunate I don&#8217;t live there.</p>
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		<title>By: What's the Point</title>
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		<dc:creator>What's the Point</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nigel - Americans don&#039;t want to eat meat from  Hong Kong for fear that it is a chopped up dog.....so what&#039;s your (their)point about New York.....they obviously haven&#039;t been there.  And further more don&#039;t come here.....we probably don&#039;t want you here.  Just have fun over there serving our troops at and around one of the many military bases on that American commonwealth you call a country.  

And one other thing......when there is one sect of people that continually go out of their way to terrorize your people on a daily basis, it gets kind of hard to think that its not a muslim terrorist.  And at this point, we&#039;re rooting for it to be a terrorist.  

Oh and to the guy who wants a bunch of 18 - 22 year old kids on a college campus to have guns to defend themselves........did you ever go to college???  If you did, you must have attended a liberal arts college.....the last thing this country needs is 15000 drunk college age kids with guns on a friday night.  Get a clue.....I&#039;m the last person to support gun control laws, but cmon......on a college campus???  There would be 5,000 dead a year at Michigan State alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nigel &#8211; Americans don&#8217;t want to eat meat from  Hong Kong for fear that it is a chopped up dog&#8230;..so what&#8217;s your (their)point about New York&#8230;..they obviously haven&#8217;t been there.  And further more don&#8217;t come here&#8230;..we probably don&#8217;t want you here.  Just have fun over there serving our troops at and around one of the many military bases on that American commonwealth you call a country.  </p>
<p>And one other thing&#8230;&#8230;when there is one sect of people that continually go out of their way to terrorize your people on a daily basis, it gets kind of hard to think that its not a muslim terrorist.  And at this point, we&#8217;re rooting for it to be a terrorist.  </p>
<p>Oh and to the guy who wants a bunch of 18 &#8211; 22 year old kids on a college campus to have guns to defend themselves&#8230;&#8230;..did you ever go to college???  If you did, you must have attended a liberal arts college&#8230;..the last thing this country needs is 15000 drunk college age kids with guns on a friday night.  Get a clue&#8230;..I&#8217;m the last person to support gun control laws, but cmon&#8230;&#8230;on a college campus???  There would be 5,000 dead a year at Michigan State alone.</p>
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		<title>By: Daman   C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daman   C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 07:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Nigel if the US had no racists would all of our schools be safe? I think that is a rather broad generalization. Would we be safer if there were no guns period? No we would not, because there will always be people whos thought process is as out of whack as this guy in Virginia, and if he hadnt had a gun he might have decided to make explosives, or started a fire or used a car or, or, or ............... there will always be an or. If we destroyed all guns tomorrow there would still be killings. People would find a way to kill other people be it with a gun, knife, stick, car or whatever is at hand. I have no answer for you as to how to stop people from killing other people. What I do know is that blaming an inanimate object is surely not it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Nigel if the US had no racists would all of our schools be safe? I think that is a rather broad generalization. Would we be safer if there were no guns period? No we would not, because there will always be people whos thought process is as out of whack as this guy in Virginia, and if he hadnt had a gun he might have decided to make explosives, or started a fire or used a car or, or, or &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; there will always be an or. If we destroyed all guns tomorrow there would still be killings. People would find a way to kill other people be it with a gun, knife, stick, car or whatever is at hand. I have no answer for you as to how to stop people from killing other people. What I do know is that blaming an inanimate object is surely not it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 06:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trey and Tom - Your stats for Canada are bogus. I live across the river from Windsor Ontario and can tell you of direct personal experience. This page from the Canadian government gives rates per 100,000 people. Bsaically the US is 2 to 3 times more violent. 
http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/011218/d011218b.htm
I won&#039;t go into Texas statistics, Kinky Friedman said it all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trey and Tom &#8211; Your stats for Canada are bogus. I live across the river from Windsor Ontario and can tell you of direct personal experience. This page from the Canadian government gives rates per 100,000 people. Bsaically the US is 2 to 3 times more violent.<br />
<a href="http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/011218/d011218b.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/011218/d011218b.htm</a><br />
I won&#8217;t go into Texas statistics, Kinky Friedman said it all.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 05:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My god are you Americans (judging from your comments) racists. And then you ask yourselves why the immigrants are shooting up people in your schools. 

Forget about guns per capita; you guys probably have the most racist per capita... Not a good image guys.
In Japan people are afraid to go to New York because they think everyone gets shot there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My god are you Americans (judging from your comments) racists. And then you ask yourselves why the immigrants are shooting up people in your schools. </p>
<p>Forget about guns per capita; you guys probably have the most racist per capita&#8230; Not a good image guys.<br />
In Japan people are afraid to go to New York because they think everyone gets shot there.</p>
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		<title>By: huckster bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>huckster bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 05:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would guess the murderer is Muslim and that the authorities have not yet released the name yet, though they know who it is, because they don&#039;t want to offend the muslim community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would guess the murderer is Muslim and that the authorities have not yet released the name yet, though they know who it is, because they don&#8217;t want to offend the muslim community.</p>
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		<title>By: A Blunt Conservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Blunt Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 03:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHO IS THIS UNEDUCATED, UNINFORMED (dare I say PERSON) NAMED BIG ED???  Is he really 14 years old. No, I take that back...the 14 year olds that I teach are MORE informed than he is.  I think the guy forget to take his medication or he slipped out of his straight jacket.  

Where does he get his statistics?  Canada has less gun violence and less gun deaths in spite of availability.  I believe the issue has less to do with gun control or gun availability. It doesn&#039;t matter, people are increasingly more pathological in this society.  They feel increasingly powerless in this society but do nothing constructive to turn things around. Sad really, just a sad state of affairs.  Rarely, do people think about how they can be productive members of society....Such egocentricity today!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHO IS THIS UNEDUCATED, UNINFORMED (dare I say PERSON) NAMED BIG ED???  Is he really 14 years old. No, I take that back&#8230;the 14 year olds that I teach are MORE informed than he is.  I think the guy forget to take his medication or he slipped out of his straight jacket.  </p>
<p>Where does he get his statistics?  Canada has less gun violence and less gun deaths in spite of availability.  I believe the issue has less to do with gun control or gun availability. It doesn&#8217;t matter, people are increasingly more pathological in this society.  They feel increasingly powerless in this society but do nothing constructive to turn things around. Sad really, just a sad state of affairs.  Rarely, do people think about how they can be productive members of society&#8230;.Such egocentricity today!</p>
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		<title>By: Al Montreuil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Montreuil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 03:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many will again be asking â€œWhyâ€?

I believe that Darrell Scott, the father of Rachel Scott, a victim of the Columbine HIgh School shooting in Littleton, Colorado, answered that question in his address to the House Judiciary Committeeâ€™s subcommittee. What he said to our national leaders during this special session of Congress was painfully truthful. 

They were not prepared for what he was to say, nor was it received well. It needs to be heard by every parent, every teacher, every politician, every sociologist, every psychologist, and every so-called expert! These courageous words spoken by Darrell Scott are powerful, penetrating, and deeply personal. There is no doubt that God sent this man as a voice crying in the wilderness. The following is a portion of the transcript: 

â€œSince the dawn of creation there has been both good &amp; evil in the hearts of men and women. We all contain the seeds of kindness or the seeds of violence. The death of my wonderful daughter, Rachel Joy Scott, and the deaths of that heroic teacher, and the other eleven children who died must not be in vain. Their blood cries out for answers. 

â€œThe first recorded act of violence was when Cain slew his brother Abel out in the field. The villain was not the club he used.. Neither was it the NCA, the National Club Association. The true killer was Cain, and the reason for the murder could only be found in Cainâ€™s heart. 

â€œIn the days that followed the Columbine tragedy, I was amazed at how quickly fingers began to be pointed at groups such as the NRA. I am not a member of the NRA. I am not a hunter. I do not even own a gun. I am not here to represent or defend the NRA - because I donâ€™t believe that they are responsible for my daughterâ€™s death. Therefore I do not believe that they need to be defended. If I believed they had anything to do with Rachelâ€™s murder I would be their strongest opponent. 

I am here today to declare that Columbine was not just a tragedy â€” it was a spiritual event that should be forcing us to look at where the real blame lies! Much of the blame lies here in this room. Much of the blame lies behind the pointing fingers of the accusers themselves. I wrote a poem just four nights ago that expresses my feelings best. This was written way before I knew I would be speaking here today:
Your laws ignore our deepest needs,
Your words are empty air.
Youâ€™ve stripped away our heritage,
Youâ€™ve outlawed simple prayer.
Now gunshots fill our classrooms,
And precious children die.
You seek for answers everywhere,
And ask the question â€œWhy?â€?
You regulate restrictive laws,
Through legislative creed.
And yet you fail to understand,
That God is what we need! 

â€? Men and women are three-part beings. We all consist of body, mind, and spirit. When we refuse to acknowledge a third part of our make-up, we create a void that allows evil, prejudice, and hatred to rush in and wreak havoc. Spiritual presences were present within our educational
systems for most of our nationâ€™s history. Many of our major colleges began as theological seminaries. This is a historical fact. What has happened to us as a nation? We have refused to honor God, and in so doing, we open the doors to hatred and violence. And when something as terrible as Columbineâ€™s tragedy occurs â€” politicians immediately look for a scapegoat such as the NRA. They immediately seek to pass more restrictive laws that contribute to erode away our personal and private liberties. We do not need more restrictive laws. Eric and Dylan would not have been stopped by metal detectors. No amount of gun laws can stop someone who spends months planning this type of massacre. The real villain lies within our own hearts. 

â€œAs my son Craig lay under that table in the school library and saw his two friends murdered before his very eyes, he did not hesitate to pray in school. I defy any law or politician to deny him that right! I challenge every young person in America, and around the world, to realize that on April 20, 1999, at Columbine High School prayer was brought back to our schools. Do not let the many prayers offered by those students be in vain. Dare to move into the new millennium with a sacred disregard for legislation that violates your God-given right to communicate with Him. To those of you who would point your finger at the NRA â€” I give to you a sincere challenge. Dare to examine your
own heart before casting the first stone! 

My daughterâ€™s death will not be in vain! The young people of this country will not allow that to happen!â€? 

â€” Posted by Al Montreuil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many will again be asking â€œWhyâ€?</p>
<p>I believe that Darrell Scott, the father of Rachel Scott, a victim of the Columbine HIgh School shooting in Littleton, Colorado, answered that question in his address to the House Judiciary Committeeâ€™s subcommittee. What he said to our national leaders during this special session of Congress was painfully truthful. </p>
<p>They were not prepared for what he was to say, nor was it received well. It needs to be heard by every parent, every teacher, every politician, every sociologist, every psychologist, and every so-called expert! These courageous words spoken by Darrell Scott are powerful, penetrating, and deeply personal. There is no doubt that God sent this man as a voice crying in the wilderness. The following is a portion of the transcript: </p>
<p>â€œSince the dawn of creation there has been both good &amp; evil in the hearts of men and women. We all contain the seeds of kindness or the seeds of violence. The death of my wonderful daughter, Rachel Joy Scott, and the deaths of that heroic teacher, and the other eleven children who died must not be in vain. Their blood cries out for answers. </p>
<p>â€œThe first recorded act of violence was when Cain slew his brother Abel out in the field. The villain was not the club he used.. Neither was it the NCA, the National Club Association. The true killer was Cain, and the reason for the murder could only be found in Cainâ€™s heart. </p>
<p>â€œIn the days that followed the Columbine tragedy, I was amazed at how quickly fingers began to be pointed at groups such as the NRA. I am not a member of the NRA. I am not a hunter. I do not even own a gun. I am not here to represent or defend the NRA &#8211; because I donâ€™t believe that they are responsible for my daughterâ€™s death. Therefore I do not believe that they need to be defended. If I believed they had anything to do with Rachelâ€™s murder I would be their strongest opponent. </p>
<p>I am here today to declare that Columbine was not just a tragedy â€” it was a spiritual event that should be forcing us to look at where the real blame lies! Much of the blame lies here in this room. Much of the blame lies behind the pointing fingers of the accusers themselves. I wrote a poem just four nights ago that expresses my feelings best. This was written way before I knew I would be speaking here today:<br />
Your laws ignore our deepest needs,<br />
Your words are empty air.<br />
Youâ€™ve stripped away our heritage,<br />
Youâ€™ve outlawed simple prayer.<br />
Now gunshots fill our classrooms,<br />
And precious children die.<br />
You seek for answers everywhere,<br />
And ask the question â€œWhy?â€?<br />
You regulate restrictive laws,<br />
Through legislative creed.<br />
And yet you fail to understand,<br />
That God is what we need! </p>
<p>â€? Men and women are three-part beings. We all consist of body, mind, and spirit. When we refuse to acknowledge a third part of our make-up, we create a void that allows evil, prejudice, and hatred to rush in and wreak havoc. Spiritual presences were present within our educational<br />
systems for most of our nationâ€™s history. Many of our major colleges began as theological seminaries. This is a historical fact. What has happened to us as a nation? We have refused to honor God, and in so doing, we open the doors to hatred and violence. And when something as terrible as Columbineâ€™s tragedy occurs â€” politicians immediately look for a scapegoat such as the NRA. They immediately seek to pass more restrictive laws that contribute to erode away our personal and private liberties. We do not need more restrictive laws. Eric and Dylan would not have been stopped by metal detectors. No amount of gun laws can stop someone who spends months planning this type of massacre. The real villain lies within our own hearts. </p>
<p>â€œAs my son Craig lay under that table in the school library and saw his two friends murdered before his very eyes, he did not hesitate to pray in school. I defy any law or politician to deny him that right! I challenge every young person in America, and around the world, to realize that on April 20, 1999, at Columbine High School prayer was brought back to our schools. Do not let the many prayers offered by those students be in vain. Dare to move into the new millennium with a sacred disregard for legislation that violates your God-given right to communicate with Him. To those of you who would point your finger at the NRA â€” I give to you a sincere challenge. Dare to examine your<br />
own heart before casting the first stone! </p>
<p>My daughterâ€™s death will not be in vain! The young people of this country will not allow that to happen!â€? </p>
<p>â€” Posted by Al Montreuil</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel DiRito</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel DiRito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Symptom of our &quot;Chain Letter Society&quot;?

Read an analysis of the influences in our &quot;Chain Letter Society&quot; that may be precipitating events like the tragedy at Virginia Tech and how our focus on winning and being number one may be fostering a generation of children with fully inadequate coping skills who have a misguided sense of self-worth...here:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thoughttheater.com/2007/04/chain_letter_society_on_the_virginia_tech_tragedy.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.thoughttheater.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Symptom of our &#8220;Chain Letter Society&#8221;?</p>
<p>Read an analysis of the influences in our &#8220;Chain Letter Society&#8221; that may be precipitating events like the tragedy at Virginia Tech and how our focus on winning and being number one may be fostering a generation of children with fully inadequate coping skills who have a misguided sense of self-worth&#8230;here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thoughttheater.com/2007/04/chain_letter_society_on_the_virginia_tech_tragedy.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.thoughttheater.com</a></p>
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