As late as 6 April, 2007, Regent University’s “factsâ€? web page proudly boasted that they had

“150 graduates serving in the Bush Administration.�

Sometime between April 6 and April 13, the University removed that statement from their web site and, for at least several days, (April 13-16) there was no statement listed at all about any Regent U. graduates working for the Bush administration.

Sometime on April 16, a new statement appeared on their “facts” page:

“150 students have served in the Bush administration.”

http://www.regent.edu/general/about_us/facts.cfm

Apparently not all of the 150 are still “serving” Bush, but does this statement also mean that some of the 150 “students” never actually graduated from the U?

Google cache has a screen capture from April 6 2007 of a Regent University’s “facts� web page where they proudly boast “150 graduates serving in the Bush Administration�

Their current “facts� page has that info removed: http://www.regent.edu/general/about_us/facts.cfm

Hmmm. Isn’t Regent University proud of those graduates anymore?

Leading is not the same as dictating and Bush has never attempted to force Christianity on the unwashed, much as they might benefit from it.

I can’t wait for the Hillary to be elected and scream bloody murder that she is selecting Women to serve in her post. How dare the woman do that!

Or Obama selecting Men to serve in his posts. The nitwit, whats he thinking.

Oh they go to Church!!! Good God! How dare they select anyone that goes to chruch!!

Gotta love Mullens attempt to demonize anything and everything Bush does.

How dare Bush select men or women that share his values. Good God what was he thinking. We all know he as a Christian should select Agnostic/Athiests.

How sad.

Your first comment directed to me was Your religion is irrelevant.

For us, Satan and the Antichrist are totally irrelevant. If you want them to exist for you, you can have them.

Your final comment to me was Your religion is irrelevant.

From responses like this I can understand why Jews can’t get along with other people and I am one of the Jewish peoples biggest supporter.

How sad.

To wit, and to return to the topic of Shaun’s post, it’s obvious to most people that governments whose leaders acknowledge and respect a loving higher power are better than those that do not.

The concept of separation of church and state was never meant to restrict individuals of faith from serving in the U.S. government. Nor was it meant to decree the the absence of religion from government. The purpose was to ensure that religion was not dictated by the state.

Leading is not the same as dictating and Bush has never attempted to force Christianity on the unwashed, much as they might benefit from it.

So no, Shaun, it’s not inappropriate at all for Bush and co. to pick graduates of religious schools out of proportion to the general population. Why shouldn’t he select a staff that reflects his values? The fact that atheists and liberals don’t like it is hardly a reason.

To your point that Republicans regret allowing themselves to be lead by Christian leaders I would submit that you are correct, in a limited fashion, but only because of Bush’s two failures: his colossal misjudgment in starting the war in Iraq and his failure to act as a fiscal conservative.

Holly in Cincinnati Says:

April 8th, 2007 at 4:34 pm
For us, Satan and the Antichrist are totally irrelevant. If you want them to exist for you, you can have them.

Well, with all due respect then Holly, if this is how you feel then you probably shouldn’t have responded to Nobody’s comment by saying that it was sad that he/she seems to believe in Satan (that certainly sounded like a criticism of that belief, rather than just stating that you don’t share the belief).

And I think even saying that “if you want them to exist for you” misses the point and is a bit offensive. There are, I’m sure, some sects that do “want them to exist” because the belief in Satan can be exploited to scare people into joining the ‘believers’, but for many of us a belief in the existence of evil (and a particular, supremely evil angelic being that we call Satan) is part of an overall belief system. It’s not meant to coerce people into following rules of religion, but rather an explanation for the existence of evil which is in contradiction to what we believe about God’s goodness.

Can’t we agree to disagree?

It depends on how you define Satan, The antiChrist and monotheism. If you attribute to Satan Godlike status then yes you have violated the concept of monotheism.

However the fact that God allows Satan/Evil/AntiChrist to exist implies that he is not on an equivalency with God and therefore the definition of A monotheistic God is intact.

I agree with you completely on that. And it’s a serious issue we need to work at addressing.

I just don’t think it’s well addressed with vast generalizations based on little knowledge of the region and it’s people. Or, more properly when dealing with the muslim religion, the regions and peoples.

If you find that 200,000 people really really hate you, multiplying that number by a factor of ten is not really a good idea.

And, through generalizations like Holly’s, you multiply it, in your mind at least, by a factor of tens of thousands.

Counterproductive if you ask me.

I am well aware of the fact that Jews and Christians have committed terrorist acts while claiming to act in the name of their religion. But let us be honest and admit that for whatever reason there has been nothing in modern times with the scope of what is being seen in in the Muslim world now.

A Jewish mystical interpretation is that God deliberately contracted Godself to make room for humanity, the workd and darkness.

Well, that’s sounds similar to what I believe; that He chose to not fill the entire void, in order that we might choose to either seek the light or reject it. Those who reject Him are choosing to live in the darkness (metaphorically).

Why here ya go. The minute you put philospohers in charge of defining God it is akin to letting Adam Eat the Apple all over again. They are going to make a mess of something they cannot understand.

What is God then?