Comments on: The Dutch in Afghanistan http://themoderatevoice.com/12003/the-dutch-in-afghanistan/ An Internet hub for moderates, centrists, and independents, with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, and right Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:17:37 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Carl Robichaud http://themoderatevoice.com/12003/the-dutch-in-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-71998 Carl Robichaud Tue, 10 Apr 2007 17:23:41 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/europe/12003/the-dutch-in-afghanistan/#comment-71998 I think you're right: finding the balance between too much and too little of a forward presence is the key. Sadly, there seems to be little in the way of solid evaluation--instead, you have each implementer trumpeting their own model. You may be interested in my post on these approaches at www.AfghanistanWatch.org (I cite your blog.) -Carl I think you’re right: finding the balance between too much and too little of a forward presence is the key. Sadly, there seems to be little in the way of solid evaluation–instead, you have each implementer trumpeting their own model. You may be interested in my post on these approaches at http://www.AfghanistanWatch.org (I cite your blog.) -Carl

]]> By: Entropy http://themoderatevoice.com/12003/the-dutch-in-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-70932 Entropy Sat, 07 Apr 2007 02:08:38 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/europe/12003/the-dutch-in-afghanistan/#comment-70932 The question of how much violence to apply in a counter-insurgency is an enduring one and there are no easy pat answers. The question of how much violence to apply in a counter-insurgency is an enduring one and there are no easy pat answers.

]]> By: Nobody http://themoderatevoice.com/12003/the-dutch-in-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-70924 Nobody Sat, 07 Apr 2007 01:21:14 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/europe/12003/the-dutch-in-afghanistan/#comment-70924 I think its quite intelligent. Who is demanding the USA to come home? The antiwar. Who is calling Bush Heir Hitler and the decider and a 1000 other names? The Antiwar. Who is spending day and night on these boards claiming the war is lost and no one loves us any more and we have to quit and come home? The antiwar. <strong>Lol yea, once again its the antiwar people that are preventing a “Victory�. Thats the stupidest damn arguement I’ve ever heard on these boards period.</strong> Well yours is the stupidest response I have ever heard to my stupidest reason to fight the war on these boards period. I think its quite intelligent. Who is demanding the USA to come home? The antiwar.

Who is calling Bush Heir Hitler and the decider and a 1000 other names? The Antiwar.

Who is spending day and night on these boards claiming the war is lost and no one loves us any more and we have to quit and come home? The antiwar.

Lol yea, once again its the antiwar people that are preventing a “Victory�. Thats the stupidest damn arguement I’ve ever heard on these boards period.

Well yours is the stupidest response I have ever heard to my stupidest reason to fight the war on these boards period.

]]> By: Sam http://themoderatevoice.com/12003/the-dutch-in-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-70884 Sam Fri, 06 Apr 2007 23:09:21 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/europe/12003/the-dutch-in-afghanistan/#comment-70884 Lol yea, once again its the antiwar people that are preventing a "Victory". Thats the stupidest damn arguement I've ever heard on these boards period. Because of what exactly? All the money they've held from our soldiers? What exactly is the left doing that caused Bush to be completely unable to advance the ball these last four years? All the administration does is move the goalposts with every bite of the reality sandwich they take. In fact, I'm pretty sure they haven't even concretely declared what victory is, because they don't even know exactly whats going on over there. Its part of the reason no progress has been made in that last 4 years. Did I say no progress? I'm sorry, I mean why we've actually backslid some. Lol yea, once again its the antiwar people that are preventing a “Victory”. Thats the stupidest damn arguement I’ve ever heard on these boards period. Because of what exactly? All the money they’ve held from our soldiers? What exactly is the left doing that caused Bush to be completely unable to advance the ball these last four years? All the administration does is move the goalposts with every bite of the reality sandwich they take.

In fact, I’m pretty sure they haven’t even concretely declared what victory is, because they don’t even know exactly whats going on over there. Its part of the reason no progress has been made in that last 4 years. Did I say no progress? I’m sorry, I mean why we’ve actually backslid some.

]]> By: Nobody http://themoderatevoice.com/12003/the-dutch-in-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-70722 Nobody Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:16:15 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/europe/12003/the-dutch-in-afghanistan/#comment-70722 Because they did not understand that from the get go we are then to give up and come home? If the antiwar stops demanding VICTORY then the military can contain terrorism and win a victory. If victory is defined as a democratic Iraq who loves the USA then its a pipe dream for all concerned. Because they did not understand that from the get go we are then to give up and come home?

If the antiwar stops demanding VICTORY then the military can contain terrorism and win a victory. If victory is defined as a democratic Iraq who loves the USA then its a pipe dream for all concerned.

]]> By: Chris http://themoderatevoice.com/12003/the-dutch-in-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-70670 Chris Fri, 06 Apr 2007 15:49:27 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/europe/12003/the-dutch-in-afghanistan/#comment-70670 It's too bad the U.S. military didn't understand that from the get go. It’s too bad the U.S. military didn’t understand that from the get go.

]]> By: Nobody http://themoderatevoice.com/12003/the-dutch-in-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-70640 Nobody Fri, 06 Apr 2007 13:25:45 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/europe/12003/the-dutch-in-afghanistan/#comment-70640 <strong>“We’re not here to fight the Taliban,� said the Dutch commander, Col. Hans van Griensven, at a recent staff meeting. “We’re here to make the Taliban irrelevant.�</strong> I love this commanders response. I just wished the antiwar would take this to heart. The war on terror is not about winning. Its about making terror irrelevant. This commander gets it. “We’re not here to fight the Taliban,� said the Dutch commander, Col. Hans van Griensven, at a recent staff meeting. “We’re here to make the Taliban irrelevant.�

I love this commanders response. I just wished the antiwar would take this to heart. The war on terror is not about winning. Its about making terror irrelevant.

This commander gets it.

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