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	<title>Comments on: Gonzales Aide Will Refuse To Testify On Prosecutor Firings</title>
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		<title>By: Reagan Republican</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reagan Republican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 01:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I won&#039;t put all my thought in this reponse but point you to take a look at the rest of my post at &lt;a href=&quot;http://reaganwasright.blogspot.com/2007/03/fifth-at-halls-of-justice.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Reagan is Right&lt;/a&gt;.  I think that Gonzales is toast.  Everyone at DOJ knows this. Goodling is a smart woman and does not want to be the scalp taken in this mess.  She does not want to be the Fall &quot;guy&#039; that McNulty and Gonzales can point to to get out of jail free.   There is a perjury trap set up for her to step in or, more likely, have her testimony set someone up for the trap.  Perhaps her testimony would conflict with existing records of testimony in this matter.  Maybe the Democrats know this and really want her in.  She is wise to walk away.

This will not stop Leahy.  The Dems will subpoena her anyway.  If they get her on the stand and she asserts her right not to self-inciminate, they will be able to use that soundbite to bring down Gonzales in the political battle to come.  

Stay Tuned

RR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I won&#8217;t put all my thought in this reponse but point you to take a look at the rest of my post at <a href="http://reaganwasright.blogspot.com/2007/03/fifth-at-halls-of-justice.html" rel="nofollow">Reagan is Right</a>.  I think that Gonzales is toast.  Everyone at DOJ knows this. Goodling is a smart woman and does not want to be the scalp taken in this mess.  She does not want to be the Fall &#8220;guy&#8217; that McNulty and Gonzales can point to to get out of jail free.   There is a perjury trap set up for her to step in or, more likely, have her testimony set someone up for the trap.  Perhaps her testimony would conflict with existing records of testimony in this matter.  Maybe the Democrats know this and really want her in.  She is wise to walk away.</p>
<p>This will not stop Leahy.  The Dems will subpoena her anyway.  If they get her on the stand and she asserts her right not to self-inciminate, they will be able to use that soundbite to bring down Gonzales in the political battle to come.  </p>
<p>Stay Tuned</p>
<p>RR</p>
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		<title>By: kritter</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 01:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;If she makes a single misstep in hours of testimony before Congress, she
faces bankruptcy and the next few years of her life in legal jeopardy. Barring some sort of immunity, she would be foolish indeed not to take the &lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;Fifth. &lt;/em&gt;

So, the same justice system that she administers for everyone else shouldn&#039;t  be applied to her? I don&#039;t see you crying in your beer over Bud Cummins, Carol Lam or John McKay, marlowe!  What of their stalled careers , financial ruin and wrecked lives?  Is it now permissable to worry more about the wrongdoer than the innocent people who were smeared without justification because of Monica and friends????? 

The firings came straight out of the blue, they were given no reason, even though they were ranked at the top in prosecutions. They played the game the way it is supposed to be played- the way we raise our kids to play it- like straight arrows.  They are the ones I feel badly for, and for the future of our justice system. How many USA&#039;s are going to take from this that they should prosecute more vigorously than they judge is warranted so as not to piss off some bigwig in their party???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>If she makes a single misstep in hours of testimony before Congress, she<br />
faces bankruptcy and the next few years of her life in legal jeopardy. Barring some sort of immunity, she would be foolish indeed not to take the </em><em>Fifth. </em></p>
<p>So, the same justice system that she administers for everyone else shouldn&#8217;t  be applied to her? I don&#8217;t see you crying in your beer over Bud Cummins, Carol Lam or John McKay, marlowe!  What of their stalled careers , financial ruin and wrecked lives?  Is it now permissable to worry more about the wrongdoer than the innocent people who were smeared without justification because of Monica and friends????? </p>
<p>The firings came straight out of the blue, they were given no reason, even though they were ranked at the top in prosecutions. They played the game the way it is supposed to be played- the way we raise our kids to play it- like straight arrows.  They are the ones I feel badly for, and for the future of our justice system. How many USA&#8217;s are going to take from this that they should prosecute more vigorously than they judge is warranted so as not to piss off some bigwig in their party???</p>
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		<title>By: Pyst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pyst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marlowe, since I am now backed up by many conservatives in the US governement I&#039;ll reply.....you absoloutely wrong, you are playing politics on this board right now, and yes Bush is the one playing politicsas are his stooges that are pleading the 5th even before they are even infront of congress.

Your deflection was weak, and carries no water when it concerns the law in this country, so shut up with the sad excuses, and deflection tactics that a growing portion of the GOP won&#039;t even try to use.

Pitiful</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marlowe, since I am now backed up by many conservatives in the US governement I&#8217;ll reply&#8230;..you absoloutely wrong, you are playing politics on this board right now, and yes Bush is the one playing politicsas are his stooges that are pleading the 5th even before they are even infront of congress.</p>
<p>Your deflection was weak, and carries no water when it concerns the law in this country, so shut up with the sad excuses, and deflection tactics that a growing portion of the GOP won&#8217;t even try to use.</p>
<p>Pitiful</p>
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		<title>By: derobertis</title>
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		<dc:creator>derobertis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 17:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dems using firings as a smokescreen for their inability to deal with the desperate issues facing our country.  Between this and Anna Nicole no one is talking about Iran, Iraq, illegal immigration, Syria, North Korea, etc.
  Its a joke. Just eat your spinach. Don&#039;t forget the milk!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dems using firings as a smokescreen for their inability to deal with the desperate issues facing our country.  Between this and Anna Nicole no one is talking about Iran, Iraq, illegal immigration, Syria, North Korea, etc.<br />
  Its a joke. Just eat your spinach. Don&#8217;t forget the milk!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 17:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KR W promised to bring back integrity to the Whitehouse. I guess this all depends on what the definition of &quot;is integrity&quot; IS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KR W promised to bring back integrity to the Whitehouse. I guess this all depends on what the definition of &#8220;is integrity&#8221; IS.</p>
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		<title>By: kritter</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I agree, Doma. I guess its hard for politicians to depoliticize anything that will affect their respective party&#039;s political power. I&#039;m  a fairly partisan Democrat, but recognize that the same rules need to apply to everybody.What&#039;s shocking is that so many are willing to chalk this one up to ---&quot;Clinton did it&quot; or &quot;they serve at the pleasure of the president&quot;. The long tradition of the Justice Dept has been to follow the evidence and resist local political pressures regarding pending investigations. There has always been a hands off approach towards the USA&#039;s. It is  a tradition that has served us well, and one that should be maintained. This administration, with its &quot;unitary executive&#039; concept has pushed the envelope on how politicized our agencies should be. 

Maybe in a show of good faith, Shumer should recuse himself from the hearings. Or maybe we need another bipartisan commission of old codgers to show us the way back to integrity. What are Jim Baker and Lee Hamilton doing this spring???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I agree, Doma. I guess its hard for politicians to depoliticize anything that will affect their respective party&#8217;s political power. I&#8217;m  a fairly partisan Democrat, but recognize that the same rules need to apply to everybody.What&#8217;s shocking is that so many are willing to chalk this one up to &#8212;&#8221;Clinton did it&#8221; or &#8220;they serve at the pleasure of the president&#8221;. The long tradition of the Justice Dept has been to follow the evidence and resist local political pressures regarding pending investigations. There has always been a hands off approach towards the USA&#8217;s. It is  a tradition that has served us well, and one that should be maintained. This administration, with its &#8220;unitary executive&#8217; concept has pushed the envelope on how politicized our agencies should be. </p>
<p>Maybe in a show of good faith, Shumer should recuse himself from the hearings. Or maybe we need another bipartisan commission of old codgers to show us the way back to integrity. What are Jim Baker and Lee Hamilton doing this spring???</p>
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		<title>By: domajot</title>
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		<dc:creator>domajot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KR-
I agree that this is a unique situation involving questions far beyond anything involved in past firings.

For that reaston, especially, I hope the Senate hearings lead to a clarification of what iare acceptable and unacceptable reasons for firing the prosecutors.  Also, for that reason, I hope the Dems don&#039;t politicize it, but use this as a guidepost for all future administrations.

It&#039;s kind of shocking to think that we should be asking these questions at this late date in our history.

For that matter, it&#039;s not at all clear where the president&#039;s right to appoint department heads cross over into making all arms of the governement into arms of the president&#039;s party.

I&#039;d like to see some guidelines that both parties have to adhere to.  
Bit, I&#039;m living in dreamland, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KR-<br />
I agree that this is a unique situation involving questions far beyond anything involved in past firings.</p>
<p>For that reaston, especially, I hope the Senate hearings lead to a clarification of what iare acceptable and unacceptable reasons for firing the prosecutors.  Also, for that reason, I hope the Dems don&#8217;t politicize it, but use this as a guidepost for all future administrations.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s kind of shocking to think that we should be asking these questions at this late date in our history.</p>
<p>For that matter, it&#8217;s not at all clear where the president&#8217;s right to appoint department heads cross over into making all arms of the governement into arms of the president&#8217;s party.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see some guidelines that both parties have to adhere to.<br />
Bit, I&#8217;m living in dreamland, no?</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; [...] I guess the Ten Commandments 
&gt; donâ€™t matter in the political arena. 

  Ralph Reed...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=ralph+reed+lobbyist</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; [...] I guess the Ten Commandments<br />
&gt; donâ€™t matter in the political arena. </p>
<p>  Ralph Reed&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=ralph+reed+lobbyist" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=ralph+reed+lobbyist</a></p>
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		<title>By: kritter</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doma- Yes, you are right-but a lot of the justication for having the investigation into this in the first place, is that firings of 8 USA&#039;s midterm by the same president who appointed them was unusual behavior.

I see it as a separation of powers issue- Congress needs to fight back against the &quot;Unitary Executive&quot; who has repeatedly shown his disdain for its powers. Also, we should all, whether liberal or conservative, want to avoid the use of Justice to hunt down political enemies- that just increases partisanship unnecessarily. It also makes us more like the banana republics that we rightfully abhor. Wouldn&#039;t we risk encouraging a rash of political corruption by the party in power if it no longer fears prosecution because of political ties? What would it have been like if the GOP had retained their majority? I think this winner take all mentality is really dangerous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doma- Yes, you are right-but a lot of the justication for having the investigation into this in the first place, is that firings of 8 USA&#8217;s midterm by the same president who appointed them was unusual behavior.</p>
<p>I see it as a separation of powers issue- Congress needs to fight back against the &#8220;Unitary Executive&#8221; who has repeatedly shown his disdain for its powers. Also, we should all, whether liberal or conservative, want to avoid the use of Justice to hunt down political enemies- that just increases partisanship unnecessarily. It also makes us more like the banana republics that we rightfully abhor. Wouldn&#8217;t we risk encouraging a rash of political corruption by the party in power if it no longer fears prosecution because of political ties? What would it have been like if the GOP had retained their majority? I think this winner take all mentality is really dangerous.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This DoJ person attended Regency U(Pat Robertson&#039;s) and is supposedly a member of the Religious Right. I guess the Ten Commandments don&#039;t matter in the political arena.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This DoJ person attended Regency U(Pat Robertson&#8217;s) and is supposedly a member of the Religious Right. I guess the Ten Commandments don&#8217;t matter in the political arena.</p>
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		<title>By: domajot</title>
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		<dc:creator>domajot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KR-
I see your point, and it becomes inevitable as a response to a &#039;but Clinton was worse&#039; argument.

With so many things going wrong, I just wish we could address what the wrong-no-matter-who-does-it yardstick is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KR-<br />
I see your point, and it becomes inevitable as a response to a &#8216;but Clinton was worse&#8217; argument.</p>
<p>With so many things going wrong, I just wish we could address what the wrong-no-matter-who-does-it yardstick is.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mikkel - All the people here who claim that TMV has been hijacked by an &#039;Axis of Weevils&#039; (Liebruls) needs to read BalloonJuice. The snark and sniping at BJ is also at another level. Will Tim F&#039;s term catch on, wait and see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mikkel &#8211; All the people here who claim that TMV has been hijacked by an &#8216;Axis of Weevils&#8217; (Liebruls) needs to read BalloonJuice. The snark and sniping at BJ is also at another level. Will Tim F&#8217;s term catch on, wait and see.</p>
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		<title>By: kritter</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doma wrote-I &lt;em&gt;donâ€™t know why the present situation should depend on rehashing which past president or party did what political maneuvering.&lt;/em&gt;

You are right, of course. I shouldn&#039;t let myself get caught up in these inane arguments. But I do, as point of fact, see a huge difference-one was a one time lapse of judgment-the other a systemic attempt to capitalize on a little known clause in the Patriot Act, and use the DOJ as a political arm of this WH. No one accused Carter  or Clinton of anything like that. Ms. Goodling&#039;s decision only makes it appear that there is a lot more to this than we know about.  I certainly am not aware of any precedent for trying to put in loyalists who will put the narrow and partisan interests of the president ahead of their duties to be impartial under the law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doma wrote-I <em>donâ€™t know why the present situation should depend on rehashing which past president or party did what political maneuvering.</em></p>
<p>You are right, of course. I shouldn&#8217;t let myself get caught up in these inane arguments. But I do, as point of fact, see a huge difference-one was a one time lapse of judgment-the other a systemic attempt to capitalize on a little known clause in the Patriot Act, and use the DOJ as a political arm of this WH. No one accused Carter  or Clinton of anything like that. Ms. Goodling&#8217;s decision only makes it appear that there is a lot more to this than we know about.  I certainly am not aware of any precedent for trying to put in loyalists who will put the narrow and partisan interests of the president ahead of their duties to be impartial under the law.</p>
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		<title>By: mikkel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rudi: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=8001&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;already done&lt;/a&gt;. (Admittedly not very catchy though)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rudi: <a href="http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=8001" rel="nofollow">already done</a>. (Admittedly not very catchy though)</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 14:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KR We need a term/rule  to use when the Right use the &#039;Clinton did it&#039; defence. This is just as bad as the Godwin Law. Maybe the Neo-Clinton Card.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KR We need a term/rule  to use when the Right use the &#8216;Clinton did it&#8217; defence. This is just as bad as the Godwin Law. Maybe the Neo-Clinton Card.</p>
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		<title>By: mikkel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikkel</dc:creator>
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		<description>Er Marlowe...at Volokh most everyone (including Eugene himself) weighed in and said this isn&#039;t a valid reason to take the fifth and she could be held in contempt. Sure some of them complained that the amount of perjury fishing was insane, but that is a political environment question, not a constitutional one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er Marlowe&#8230;at Volokh most everyone (including Eugene himself) weighed in and said this isn&#8217;t a valid reason to take the fifth and she could be held in contempt. Sure some of them complained that the amount of perjury fishing was insane, but that is a political environment question, not a constitutional one.</p>
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		<title>By: egrubs</title>
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		<dc:creator>egrubs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 14:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to be able to analyze what&#039;s going on without being told &quot;But Clinton! But Clinton! But Clinton!&quot; We get the idea. Now, what about this seemingly more-than-people-want-to-admit set of circumstances.

I&#039;ll just wait patiently and see what develops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to be able to analyze what&#8217;s going on without being told &#8220;But Clinton! But Clinton! But Clinton!&#8221; We get the idea. Now, what about this seemingly more-than-people-want-to-admit set of circumstances.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll just wait patiently and see what develops.</p>
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		<title>By: PoliBlog &#8482;: A Rough Draft of my Thoughts &#187; Who is Monica Goodling?</title>
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		<dc:creator>PoliBlog &#8482;: A Rough Draft of my Thoughts &#187; Who is Monica Goodling?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 14:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] h/t: TMV.   Filed under: US Politics &#124; &#124; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: domajot</title>
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		<dc:creator>domajot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 14:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know why the present situation should depend on rehashing which past president or party did what political maneuvering.

We are here, in a mess abroad and at home.
I&#039;m not sure what all will come out in the investigation of the DOJ firings, but I have every intention of evaluating the results on their own merits, not on the basis of G. Washington&#039;s politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why the present situation should depend on rehashing which past president or party did what political maneuvering.</p>
<p>We are here, in a mess abroad and at home.<br />
I&#8217;m not sure what all will come out in the investigation of the DOJ firings, but I have every intention of evaluating the results on their own merits, not on the basis of G. Washington&#8217;s politics.</p>
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		<title>By: kritter</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marlowe-Yes, Carter fired one USA , in my view improperly, for political reasons. But in the past 25 years only 10 have been fired midterm, and 8 or 9 of those 10 were due to misconduct issues. So the scope, plus the reasoning, to put in political allies of Rove and the administration were unprecedented.
I don&#039;t remember if there was a congressional investigation into Carter, but do remember that there was still overall confidence in the justice system, because whatever he did , affected one situation only.It was an isolated incident to do a favor to a political ally, not a systemic attempt to politicize our justice system. Anyway, in the end, the politician did get the accountability that he so richly deserved. 

We are all accountable for our actions and words, more so if we hold a position of public trust. The one agency that should never have been politicized was DOJ. Goodling knew what she was doing, and if she didn&#039;t agree with it, could have resigned. Since we do live by rule of law, those that we trust to administer that law should be above reproach, and not try to circumvent it when held accountable. The USA&#039;s were upholding their oath of office as it was intended to function---political interference with that is unjustified, as is lying about the motivation afterwards. You can&#039;t commit an offense for political reasons and then refuse to testify because those holding the hearing are &quot;overly political&quot;. The Senate is still basically 50-50- even though they hold subppoena power, so Goodling would not be overwhelmed by political opponents of Bush.

BTW, lying to Congress is not a political offense, but an actual crime punishable by 5 years in jail.  I see no reason for Congress to withhold its oversight role, just because this person doesn&#039;t have Libby&#039;s resources. It seems pretty obvious she has something to hide- or why take the extended leave?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marlowe-Yes, Carter fired one USA , in my view improperly, for political reasons. But in the past 25 years only 10 have been fired midterm, and 8 or 9 of those 10 were due to misconduct issues. So the scope, plus the reasoning, to put in political allies of Rove and the administration were unprecedented.<br />
I don&#8217;t remember if there was a congressional investigation into Carter, but do remember that there was still overall confidence in the justice system, because whatever he did , affected one situation only.It was an isolated incident to do a favor to a political ally, not a systemic attempt to politicize our justice system. Anyway, in the end, the politician did get the accountability that he so richly deserved. </p>
<p>We are all accountable for our actions and words, more so if we hold a position of public trust. The one agency that should never have been politicized was DOJ. Goodling knew what she was doing, and if she didn&#8217;t agree with it, could have resigned. Since we do live by rule of law, those that we trust to administer that law should be above reproach, and not try to circumvent it when held accountable. The USA&#8217;s were upholding their oath of office as it was intended to function&#8212;political interference with that is unjustified, as is lying about the motivation afterwards. You can&#8217;t commit an offense for political reasons and then refuse to testify because those holding the hearing are &#8220;overly political&#8221;. The Senate is still basically 50-50- even though they hold subppoena power, so Goodling would not be overwhelmed by political opponents of Bush.</p>
<p>BTW, lying to Congress is not a political offense, but an actual crime punishable by 5 years in jail.  I see no reason for Congress to withhold its oversight role, just because this person doesn&#8217;t have Libby&#8217;s resources. It seems pretty obvious she has something to hide- or why take the extended leave?</p>
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