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	<title>Comments on: Alberto Gonzales And The Sports Team Tribalism Of American Politics</title>
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		<title>By: Angereticca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angereticca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 07:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It solves nothing to point and label.  No one is worried about mongrelization of species.  Sitting on a university library porch and slinging quotes is not the effort of someone trying to move debate forward.  Rather, it is someone trying to piss off internet readers.  It is sad.  Just say what you mean: &quot;Maybe I could defecate on a flag while you rape a slave.&quot;  It&#039;s ridiculous and not worth it.  Get over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It solves nothing to point and label.  No one is worried about mongrelization of species.  Sitting on a university library porch and slinging quotes is not the effort of someone trying to move debate forward.  Rather, it is someone trying to piss off internet readers.  It is sad.  Just say what you mean: &#8220;Maybe I could defecate on a flag while you rape a slave.&#8221;  It&#8217;s ridiculous and not worth it.  Get over it.</p>
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		<title>By: Cicero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cicero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely understand this and agree it is a problem.

But I also understand why Republicans are banding together.

I&#039;m conservative, but have never been very partisan untill now- last election was the first year I&#039;ve ever voted a straight Republican ticket.

I feel like I&#039;m being radicalized against my will, but what can I do?  The Democracts have have abandoned all pretense of concern for fair play, or reasoned debate.  Instead they push lies and break election rules, all in the pursuit of power.  (I&#039;m from Washington State).

Their handeling of the Iraq War is the grossest example of this.

How is it possible that the same people who voted for authorizing the war, are now voting to undermine the war effort. - It is intolerable that constituents allow this.  Now I disagree with those who voted against the war, and still oppose it- but I can understand their reasoning.  I&#039;m with those who supported the war, and still do.

However, the majority of Democratic leaders voted to send our men off to die (the inevitable result of war) and now want to vote to cripple the war effort thus making the deaths of those who have already dies meaningless.  There&#039;s a term for that: &quot;Betraying your own troops&quot; and I find it dispicable that this is being tolerated.

There are a few Republicans who have done this- but they&#039;ll be dead in the next primary.  Can you say the same of Democrats? No.

Nor is this the first time Democrats have done this.  They supported the Vietnam War when it started, but then backed out after it got tough.  If you&#039;re not willing to support a war when it gets tough- then don&#039;t vote for war!  Lieberman is the only one of the bunch with any charactor or integrity left.

I highly doubt I&#039;ll ever vote Democrat again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely understand this and agree it is a problem.</p>
<p>But I also understand why Republicans are banding together.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m conservative, but have never been very partisan untill now- last election was the first year I&#8217;ve ever voted a straight Republican ticket.</p>
<p>I feel like I&#8217;m being radicalized against my will, but what can I do?  The Democracts have have abandoned all pretense of concern for fair play, or reasoned debate.  Instead they push lies and break election rules, all in the pursuit of power.  (I&#8217;m from Washington State).</p>
<p>Their handeling of the Iraq War is the grossest example of this.</p>
<p>How is it possible that the same people who voted for authorizing the war, are now voting to undermine the war effort. &#8211; It is intolerable that constituents allow this.  Now I disagree with those who voted against the war, and still oppose it- but I can understand their reasoning.  I&#8217;m with those who supported the war, and still do.</p>
<p>However, the majority of Democratic leaders voted to send our men off to die (the inevitable result of war) and now want to vote to cripple the war effort thus making the deaths of those who have already dies meaningless.  There&#8217;s a term for that: &#8220;Betraying your own troops&#8221; and I find it dispicable that this is being tolerated.</p>
<p>There are a few Republicans who have done this- but they&#8217;ll be dead in the next primary.  Can you say the same of Democrats? No.</p>
<p>Nor is this the first time Democrats have done this.  They supported the Vietnam War when it started, but then backed out after it got tough.  If you&#8217;re not willing to support a war when it gets tough- then don&#8217;t vote for war!  Lieberman is the only one of the bunch with any charactor or integrity left.</p>
<p>I highly doubt I&#8217;ll ever vote Democrat again.</p>
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		<title>By: kritter</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 03:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;A barbarous thing to say, even as a straw argument: In mala fide. Tribalistic.&lt;/em&gt;

Yes, I confess I got carried away, because as many problems as multiculturalism presents, extreme nationalism presents more. Mea culpa to the mongrel dogs, I didn&#039;t mean any insult to them, actually am somewhat of an animal lover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>A barbarous thing to say, even as a straw argument: In mala fide. Tribalistic.</em></p>
<p>Yes, I confess I got carried away, because as many problems as multiculturalism presents, extreme nationalism presents more. Mea culpa to the mongrel dogs, I didn&#8217;t mean any insult to them, actually am somewhat of an animal lover.</p>
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		<title>By: stevesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>stevesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 01:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;SATâ€™s in the top 5% of the country.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Infinite geometric series where &#124;&lt;strong&gt;QED&lt;/strong&gt;&#124; Our offspring will all come out like mongrel dogs, in shades of brown and beige.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

A barbarous thing to say, even as a straw argument: &lt;em&gt;In mala fide&lt;/em&gt;.  Tribalistic.

&lt;strong&gt;&quot;Jai Bhagwan&quot;&lt;/strong&gt; (Hindi) = &quot;I bow to the Divine light within you.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>SATâ€™s in the top 5% of the country.</p></blockquote>
<p>Infinite geometric series where |<strong>QED</strong>| Our offspring will all come out like mongrel dogs, in shades of brown and beige.</p>
<p>A barbarous thing to say, even as a straw argument: <em>In mala fide</em>.  Tribalistic.</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;Jai Bhagwan&#8221;</strong> (Hindi) = &#8220;I bow to the Divine light within you.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: kritter</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;KR Ease up on the dittoheads, the US culture is Christian and WASP in nature. The Pat Buchananâ€™s of the Right donâ€™t like anything out of the Anglo-Saxon mold. Itâ€™s not like Eastern Europe or Asian groups have any influence on the US culture. The Southwest influence and Hispanic history has nothing to to with the WASPish view of angry rich White men. &lt;/em&gt;

Yes, Rudi it must drive them nuts that in a few years they will be in the minority, and might even be speaking Spanish as a second language! Oh the humanity! Our offspring will all come out like mongrel dogs, in shades of brown and beige. Maybe a few of these people should get out more in the world to become more , hmm what is the word? Oh yeah multicultural!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>KR Ease up on the dittoheads, the US culture is Christian and WASP in nature. The Pat Buchananâ€™s of the Right donâ€™t like anything out of the Anglo-Saxon mold. Itâ€™s not like Eastern Europe or Asian groups have any influence on the US culture. The Southwest influence and Hispanic history has nothing to to with the WASPish view of angry rich White men. </em></p>
<p>Yes, Rudi it must drive them nuts that in a few years they will be in the minority, and might even be speaking Spanish as a second language! Oh the humanity! Our offspring will all come out like mongrel dogs, in shades of brown and beige. Maybe a few of these people should get out more in the world to become more , hmm what is the word? Oh yeah multicultural!</p>
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		<title>By: kritter</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I was educated pre-multicultural approach and went to a very good middle school, and never learned about Jacques Barzun. So doesn&#039;t that put a little dent in your theory? But, nice switch from E. J. Dionne and Gonzo, Stevesh. I forgot to add that I was in the top 10% of my class when I graduated from high school, with SAT&#039;s in the top 5% of the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I was educated pre-multicultural approach and went to a very good middle school, and never learned about Jacques Barzun. So doesn&#8217;t that put a little dent in your theory? But, nice switch from E. J. Dionne and Gonzo, Stevesh. I forgot to add that I was in the top 10% of my class when I graduated from high school, with SAT&#8217;s in the top 5% of the country.</p>
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		<title>By: stevesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>stevesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 22:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You think they should teach about Wilberforce in a middle school social studies class? I have a degree in government, but I had to google him!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;QED.&lt;/strong&gt;

Google &quot;Jacques Barzun.&quot;

Google &quot;Abolition of Man CS Lewis The Tao&quot; - for the contributions of &lt;strong&gt;all&lt;/strong&gt; cultures to the Western concepts of liberty, brotherhood of man, reason, faith.

Dead tree perusal is highly recommended, however.

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jai Bhagwan&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You think they should teach about Wilberforce in a middle school social studies class? I have a degree in government, but I had to google him!</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>QED.</strong></p>
<p>Google &#8220;Jacques Barzun.&#8221;</p>
<p>Google &#8220;Abolition of Man CS Lewis The Tao&#8221; &#8211; for the contributions of <strong>all</strong> cultures to the Western concepts of liberty, brotherhood of man, reason, faith.</p>
<p>Dead tree perusal is highly recommended, however.</p>
<p><strong><em>Jai Bhagwan</em></strong></p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KR Ease up on the dittoheads, the US culture is Christian and WASP in nature. The Pat Buchanan&#039;s of the Right don&#039;t like anything out of the Anglo-Saxon mold. It&#039;s not like Eastern Europe or Asian groups have any influence on the US culture. The Southwest influence and Hispanic history has nothing to to with the WASPish view of angry rich White men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KR Ease up on the dittoheads, the US culture is Christian and WASP in nature. The Pat Buchanan&#8217;s of the Right don&#8217;t like anything out of the Anglo-Saxon mold. It&#8217;s not like Eastern Europe or Asian groups have any influence on the US culture. The Southwest influence and Hispanic history has nothing to to with the WASPish view of angry rich White men.</p>
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		<title>By: kritter</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stevesh- You think they should teach about Wilberforce in a middle school social studies class? I have a degree in government, but I had to google him! Stop blaming multiculturism for everything that goes wrong- that&#039;s a straw man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stevesh- You think they should teach about Wilberforce in a middle school social studies class? I have a degree in government, but I had to google him! Stop blaming multiculturism for everything that goes wrong- that&#8217;s a straw man.</p>
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		<title>By: Angereticca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angereticca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems so impossible for a voice to be heard that is not yelling about the evil talk radio shows.  I tried to be fair and listened to Air America for a whole show, but I couldn&#039;t stand the insessant villification of our country.  There is a whole population that feels that you should root for the home team.  If there really was only two voices/sides, then there might be less screaming, but there is a constant stream of micro-cast ideals that continue to be fought over by the loudest groups.  

Does it seem that the problems aren&#039;t really problems until someone claims they fix them?  Maybe less is more.  The over driving principle to get something done, and be an accomplisher isn&#039;t working.  If you can take the infotainers as they are its fine, unfortunately a lot of people take them as gospel.  At least they are trying.  

Stevesh is right.  White males are not the enemy.  Culturally When you force the most heavily pressured (by taxes &amp; responsibility) demographic of your population they get angry.  Patriarchy has been superseeded by Angerarchy!  No one is in charge.  Ergo everyone is in charge.  Nothing gets a fair shake.  

The population centers are overburdened by the everflowing greed of free.  Free food, free money, shelter, drugs, etc.  When the benefits of society out live their true intrinsic value they become indemic of the ill they were created to save.  Unemployment insurance.  It is part of the problem of unemployment.  Carrot/stick.  I am not vilifying unemployment insurance, but it is an easy example.  Help is supposed to be just that.  Help.  I think when you replace god with government you give up a host of opportunity. Faith is inside of you to do all things.  When you make it your political choice to help every one and thing you steal the right to make those choices for future generations.  I am not opposed to help, honest.  I am talking about incessant, ceaseless, neverending help.  Hmm, maybe term limits to all laws, and not politicians...(?).  

Maybe there should be stricter rules for help.  Like a urine test for every government check.  Any one or any organization that gets a grant or has a public contract should have to pee in a cup.  Yes, I know its rediculous, but hear me out.  Every person that benefits from the money.  If a compny gets a huge government contract, then every time they get a check, every employee has got to pee.  Welfare, student loans, educators, social security, little league teams, politicians, tax returns, etc.  Now they would be monitored tests, no peeing behind a door, and scrutinized for every peice of celery.  Funny, huh?  Every check.  Every single one.  That would make a lot of sense.  Maybe we would need less money flowing from our government.  Our government funds its enemies.  That really isn&#039;t freedom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems so impossible for a voice to be heard that is not yelling about the evil talk radio shows.  I tried to be fair and listened to Air America for a whole show, but I couldn&#8217;t stand the insessant villification of our country.  There is a whole population that feels that you should root for the home team.  If there really was only two voices/sides, then there might be less screaming, but there is a constant stream of micro-cast ideals that continue to be fought over by the loudest groups.  </p>
<p>Does it seem that the problems aren&#8217;t really problems until someone claims they fix them?  Maybe less is more.  The over driving principle to get something done, and be an accomplisher isn&#8217;t working.  If you can take the infotainers as they are its fine, unfortunately a lot of people take them as gospel.  At least they are trying.  </p>
<p>Stevesh is right.  White males are not the enemy.  Culturally When you force the most heavily pressured (by taxes &amp; responsibility) demographic of your population they get angry.  Patriarchy has been superseeded by Angerarchy!  No one is in charge.  Ergo everyone is in charge.  Nothing gets a fair shake.  </p>
<p>The population centers are overburdened by the everflowing greed of free.  Free food, free money, shelter, drugs, etc.  When the benefits of society out live their true intrinsic value they become indemic of the ill they were created to save.  Unemployment insurance.  It is part of the problem of unemployment.  Carrot/stick.  I am not vilifying unemployment insurance, but it is an easy example.  Help is supposed to be just that.  Help.  I think when you replace god with government you give up a host of opportunity. Faith is inside of you to do all things.  When you make it your political choice to help every one and thing you steal the right to make those choices for future generations.  I am not opposed to help, honest.  I am talking about incessant, ceaseless, neverending help.  Hmm, maybe term limits to all laws, and not politicians&#8230;(?).  </p>
<p>Maybe there should be stricter rules for help.  Like a urine test for every government check.  Any one or any organization that gets a grant or has a public contract should have to pee in a cup.  Yes, I know its rediculous, but hear me out.  Every person that benefits from the money.  If a compny gets a huge government contract, then every time they get a check, every employee has got to pee.  Welfare, student loans, educators, social security, little league teams, politicians, tax returns, etc.  Now they would be monitored tests, no peeing behind a door, and scrutinized for every peice of celery.  Funny, huh?  Every check.  Every single one.  That would make a lot of sense.  Maybe we would need less money flowing from our government.  Our government funds its enemies.  That really isn&#8217;t freedom.</p>
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		<title>By: stevesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>stevesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 17:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Due to the advent of talk radio...&quot; &lt;/blockquote&gt;

If, only.

Been in a middle school social studies class lately?  Teach multiculturalism as the demotic &lt;em&gt;sine qua non&lt;/em&gt; without context.  Drive the source of the expression, &quot;the lion lays down with the lamb,&quot; from the public square.  Wilberforce, who?  Barzun?  Vilify (even) Jefferson, et.al..  

Pound away at it for two generations (creating, ironically, heads of mush predisposed to either/or: Limbaugh - Maher).

Tribalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Due to the advent of talk radio&#8230;&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p>If, only.</p>
<p>Been in a middle school social studies class lately?  Teach multiculturalism as the demotic <em>sine qua non</em> without context.  Drive the source of the expression, &#8220;the lion lays down with the lamb,&#8221; from the public square.  Wilberforce, who?  Barzun?  Vilify (even) Jefferson, et.al..  </p>
<p>Pound away at it for two generations (creating, ironically, heads of mush predisposed to either/or: Limbaugh &#8211; Maher).</p>
<p>Tribalism.</p>
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		<title>By: kritter</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 16:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the last 25 years only 10  US attorneys have been fired for performance issues. Of those all but 2 were for incompetence on the job. The USA&#039;s themselves are upset at this politicization of Justice, as it is ingrained in them to follow the evidence in a case, not one&#039;s political party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the last 25 years only 10  US attorneys have been fired for performance issues. Of those all but 2 were for incompetence on the job. The USA&#8217;s themselves are upset at this politicization of Justice, as it is ingrained in them to follow the evidence in a case, not one&#8217;s political party.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 16:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny,
I just had a discussion about &quot;team-politics&quot; last night with my family.  I think you can point the finger at Limbaugh, Coulter, Malkin, Hannity, and O&#039;Reilly if you want someone to blame for the &quot;my side is right, facts be damned&quot; environment of politics we are facing. 

The Limbaugh types always have a somewhat logical sounding reason that the latest Bush scandal isn&#039;t a scandal, if you ignore the facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny,<br />
I just had a discussion about &#8220;team-politics&#8221; last night with my family.  I think you can point the finger at Limbaugh, Coulter, Malkin, Hannity, and O&#8217;Reilly if you want someone to blame for the &#8220;my side is right, facts be damned&#8221; environment of politics we are facing. </p>
<p>The Limbaugh types always have a somewhat logical sounding reason that the latest Bush scandal isn&#8217;t a scandal, if you ignore the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Forhan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Forhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 15:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree with much of this theory, two things bother me:  E.J. Dionne, Jr.  seems to compare the proverbial apples to oranges with comparing the Gonzales firings with a Whitewater probe rather than with firings of attorneys from past presidents.  But, I suppose we&#039;re all victims of our own biases to an extent.

The other thing that bothers me is, respectfully, in quoting Wikipedia as fact.  While often a good source, it&#039;s still a socially-run website prone to opinions of the current author.  Quoting the source of the source would be the way to go, IMHO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree with much of this theory, two things bother me:  E.J. Dionne, Jr.  seems to compare the proverbial apples to oranges with comparing the Gonzales firings with a Whitewater probe rather than with firings of attorneys from past presidents.  But, I suppose we&#8217;re all victims of our own biases to an extent.</p>
<p>The other thing that bothers me is, respectfully, in quoting Wikipedia as fact.  While often a good source, it&#8217;s still a socially-run website prone to opinions of the current author.  Quoting the source of the source would be the way to go, IMHO.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Clinton &#187; Bill Clinton March 25, 2007 6:24 am</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Clinton &#187; Bill Clinton March 25, 2007 6:24 am</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 10:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What People Are Saying SPOS #44 - Six Pixels Of Separation - The Twist Image Podcast &#8230; Power Within Montreal - April 3rd - Bill Clinton, Anthony Robbins and myself along with Jerry Greenfield (Co-founder of Ben &amp; Jerry&#8217;s), Terry Savage (personal finance expert), Irshad Manji (best selling author of The Trouble with Islam &#8230;Alberto Gonzales And The Sports Team Tribalism Of American Politics The speaker was actually the Republican whom Schumer defeated nine years ago, Alfonse D?Amato, discussing Bill Clinton?s invocation of executive privilege in the Whitewater investigation. Nice to see Chuck and Al agree on something. &#8230;A Conservative Revew of the BL Jackson Letter I think that&#8217;s what made Bill Clinton &#8216;the first black president&#8217;, because those Americans who like to believe conservatives are out to get them have every sympathy. I would add that now you really have to think about who Hillary &#8230;sardar ji v bill clinton Forum: Jokes &amp; Riddles Posted By: sarmad786 Post Time: 03-25-2007 at 12:13 AM.&quot;For Clinton and Obama, a Common Ideological Touchstone&quot; She told an interviewer shortly after Bill Clinton became president that government programs were too often administered from on high, with too little effect. &#8220;I basically argued that [Alinsky] was right,&#8221; Clinton told The Washington &#8230;Daily Hillary 3/22/07 Unease Over &#8216;02 Iraq Vote Rattling Clinton - David Yepsen, DM RegisterBook on Bill Clinton Emerges From Years of Tapes -Julie Bosman, NY TimesHillary Clinton, Rudy Giuliani Lead Ohio 2008 Poll -NewsmaxShoreBank&#8217;s Nash to join Hillary &#8230;Blowback: it&#039;s not just for foreign policy anymore&#8230; And?and somebody has decided that if they try to continually talk about Bill Clinton firing 93 US Attorneys, that will somehow you know, muddy this water up to where people can&#8217;t see anything. The truth is, what they have done here is &#8230;Amitav Ghosh on India New Imperialism: He pointed to the rising interference of American foreign policy in world affairs (it went on even during Bill Clinton&#8217;s term) and so debunking the idea that it has been just a more recent Neo-con phenomenon. &#8230;  March 25th 2007 Posted to Bill Clinton [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] What People Are Saying SPOS #44 &#8211; Six Pixels Of Separation &#8211; The Twist Image Podcast &#8230; Power Within Montreal &#8211; April 3rd &#8211; Bill Clinton, Anthony Robbins and myself along with Jerry Greenfield (Co-founder of Ben &amp; Jerry&#8217;s), Terry Savage (personal finance expert), Irshad Manji (best selling author of The Trouble with Islam &#8230;Alberto Gonzales And The Sports Team Tribalism Of American Politics The speaker was actually the Republican whom Schumer defeated nine years ago, Alfonse D?Amato, discussing Bill Clinton?s invocation of executive privilege in the Whitewater investigation. Nice to see Chuck and Al agree on something. &#8230;A Conservative Revew of the BL Jackson Letter I think that&#8217;s what made Bill Clinton &#8216;the first black president&#8217;, because those Americans who like to believe conservatives are out to get them have every sympathy. I would add that now you really have to think about who Hillary &#8230;sardar ji v bill clinton Forum: Jokes &amp; Riddles Posted By: sarmad786 Post Time: 03-25-2007 at 12:13 AM.&quot;For Clinton and Obama, a Common Ideological Touchstone&quot; She told an interviewer shortly after Bill Clinton became president that government programs were too often administered from on high, with too little effect. &#8220;I basically argued that [Alinsky] was right,&#8221; Clinton told The Washington &#8230;Daily Hillary 3/22/07 Unease Over &#8216;02 Iraq Vote Rattling Clinton &#8211; David Yepsen, DM RegisterBook on Bill Clinton Emerges From Years of Tapes -Julie Bosman, NY TimesHillary Clinton, Rudy Giuliani Lead Ohio 2008 Poll -NewsmaxShoreBank&#8217;s Nash to join Hillary &#8230;Blowback: it&#39;s not just for foreign policy anymore&#8230; And?and somebody has decided that if they try to continually talk about Bill Clinton firing 93 US Attorneys, that will somehow you know, muddy this water up to where people can&#8217;t see anything. The truth is, what they have done here is &#8230;Amitav Ghosh on India New Imperialism: He pointed to the rising interference of American foreign policy in world affairs (it went on even during Bill Clinton&#8217;s term) and so debunking the idea that it has been just a more recent Neo-con phenomenon. &#8230;  March 25th 2007 Posted to Bill Clinton [...]</p>
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