Comments on: Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger: â€œLimbaugh is Irrelevantâ€?

By: DLS

DLS — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:30:11 +0000

Take “Arnold,” the state of California, which is declining into a West Coast more-contemporary version of slerotic Cyanide Nation decay farther east, and realize that too many GOP Presidential contenders are similar. It also is noteworthy now notorious and alien to (real) Americans [TM] the Northeastern so-called “Republicans” are (just as the Dims are often so alien as well as toxic.)

By: DLS

DLS — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:26:31 +0000

“Komrade” Rudi said:

> California, like Michigan and Ohio, are victims of the
> changes brought about by the Global economy.

Untrue. California leads technological progress, rather
than falls victim to it, while Michigan and Ohio have in
large part themselves to blame for backward culture on
the subject of overpriced, feather-bedding labor unions.

The auto industry, a global industry, thrives in the USA
– just in the South, where more modern industry has its
home.

By: DLS

DLS — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:23:57 +0000

Superdestroyer said:

> The middle class (both white and black) are leaving California
> because the quality of life is decreasing. He also refuses to
> take on long term entitlement reform, illegal immigrations,
> crime, or traffic in California; and has shown to be afraid of
> the state employee unions.

> the Republican Party in California is irrelevent [...]
> state dominated by the Democrats.

> the Democrats are holding his lease and he has to do
> what they say.

You understand California, its problems, its decline,
its “Massachusetts Lite” politics, and ownership of
Sacramento by the Dim Party thoroughly.

I left California in the early 1990s. It was a much
better place when I grew up there than it is now.

Just wait 10-20 years for the welfare population
surge accompanying the already-burgeoning
illegal-immigrant surge.

By: superdestroyer

superdestroyer — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:50:48 +0000

Actually, the total number of whites and blacks in California is decreasing even as the population is expanding. This creates a climate where middle class whites (and now blacks) move because they do not have the money to avoid the negative impact of immigration like the rich do.

I would someone to tell me where the blue collar whites live in San Francisco or in Los Angeles County. The answer is that they do not leave there, period. They have moved to other areas.

If Arnold is governing in a pragmatic way, then tell me one thing his has propose that would not be in the best interest of a Democratic Special Interest Group. California is about to let felons go early because the prison unions do not want to give up any power. How is that pragmatic?

By: Rudi

Rudi — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:04:24 +0000

California, like Michigan and Ohio, are victims of the changes brought about by the Global economy. While illegal immigramts are there in California, it’s the economy thats is affecting the middle class. North Carolina has more illegal and legal immigrants(per capita), yet it’s economy isn’t in the same position, they have been replacing textile work and tobacco with other middle class jobs.

By: Paul Silver

Paul Silver — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:01:35 +0000

To me Arnold is special because he creates an environment in which trans-partisan and pragmatic solutions can be discussed. He is an agent of cooperation and collaboration.

While it may be true that the health of the GOP in California is in doubt there will always be a role for those who are relatively more fiscally and socially conservative. If the GOP wanes the conservative Democrats will wax.

By: cosmoetica

cosmoetica — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:00:37 +0000

SD- you definition of failure is typically monodimensional. It’s akin to saying FDR failed because he did not allow enough Jews into America or detained Japanese-Americans, or that Lincoln was afailure because he suspended habeas corpus. The plight of the middle class is a dilemma nationwide, and I’d bet their loss is less to emigration and more to declining standards that pushes them into lowe socio-economic status. That said, the Governator seems to have learnt from his disastrous first term, and is improving. Wd that Bush could actually learn anything.

By: superdestroyer

superdestroyer — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:34:45 +0000

Rudi,

what part of giving the Democrats whatever they want is “Bring the two sides together.”

The problem is that no matter what Arnold does he will be replaced with a Democrat and the Democrats will get whatever they want in the long run. thus, Arnold is just speeding up the process.

If Arnold is so great, what is he doing to keep middle class native born American from leaving the state due to the decreasing standard of living? Unless someone can answer that question, then Arnold is a failure.

By: Rudi

Rudi — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:25:19 +0000

No SD, Arnold is governing with the opposition party instead of looking for a fight he can’t win. While no Reagan(as a leader), his honest talk is an example other moderate Republicans and Democrats can follow instead of the Bush model.

By: superdestroyer

superdestroyer — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:40:37 +0000

I doubt if the governor is doing what needs to be done. The middle class (both white and black) are leaving California because the quality of life is decreasing. He also refuses to take on long term entitlement reform, illegal immigrations, crime, or traffic in California; and has shown to be afraid of the state employee unions. Governor Schwarzenegger is doing what he can because the Republican Party in California is irrelevent and will cease to function in a few years. He is doing what any independent would do to stay in power in a state dominated by the Democrats.

What really should be said is that Governor is irrelevent to politics because the Democrats are holding his lease and he has to do what they say.