Comments on: Center of Attention http://themoderatevoice.com/11433/center-of-attention-45/ An Internet hub for moderates, centrists, and independents, with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, and right Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:49:55 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Gray http://themoderatevoice.com/11433/center-of-attention-45/comment-page-1/#comment-62435 Gray Tue, 13 Mar 2007 02:30:46 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/uncategorized/center-of-attention-45/#comment-62435 Just in case you missed the hype about his book, CS, Crichton staertted all this brouahaha that all global warming scientits are just in it for the money. Of course, even though there are singular cases where tha's true, the generalisation is nonsense. "he is just apparently uncomfortable to realize that the information he provided is consistent with the overall message that global warming might not be caused by rising levels of CO2." Well, imho he's pissed because only part of his testimony has been used, and selectively the part where he's critisizing some bad habits of his colegue, not the part where he adds his own expertise to the problem. However, there's one argument that will trump all oppositional voices: It's IDIOTIC to deliberately err on the bad side! Don't gamble with the future of mankind. The IDIOTIC error with the Iraq war will be nothing, compared to this. Just in case you missed the hype about his book, CS, Crichton staertted all this brouahaha that all global warming scientits are just in it for the money. Of course, even though there are singular cases where tha’s true, the generalisation is nonsense.

“he is just apparently uncomfortable to realize that the information he provided is consistent with the overall message that global warming might not be caused by rising levels of CO2.”

Well, imho he’s pissed because only part of his testimony has been used, and selectively the part where he’s critisizing some bad habits of his colegue, not the part where he adds his own expertise to the problem.

However, there’s one argument that will trump all oppositional voices:
It’s IDIOTIC to deliberately err on the bad side! Don’t gamble with the future of mankind. The IDIOTIC error with the Iraq war will be nothing, compared to this.

]]> By: C Stanley http://themoderatevoice.com/11433/center-of-attention-45/comment-page-1/#comment-62092 C Stanley Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:56:28 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/uncategorized/center-of-attention-45/#comment-62092 Gray, Who said anything about Michael Crichton? What's criminal is the degree to which the anthropogenic global warming debate has been politicized. That's what makes it impossible to determine the true science. And getting back to the story that MvdG pointed to, the complaint by this one oceanographer that he was duped into appearing into this film is IMO just more evidence of the polarity and politicization. There was nothing that he said that was misquoted or twisted; he is just apparently uncomfortable to realize that the information he provided is consistent with the overall message that global warming might not be caused by rising levels of CO2. And funny too, that the film actually points out that there are scientists who are making the same complaint on the other side; that they actually do NOT believe that global warming is anthropogenic but that there position has been misrepresented by IPCC. In fact some scientists who dissent from IPCC have been falsely included in the IPCC's claim of consensus of 2500 scientists, even though these individuals actually hold the opposite opinion. Gray,
Who said anything about Michael Crichton? What’s criminal is the degree to which the anthropogenic global warming debate has been politicized. That’s what makes it impossible to determine the true science.

And getting back to the story that MvdG pointed to, the complaint by this one oceanographer that he was duped into appearing into this film is IMO just more evidence of the polarity and politicization. There was nothing that he said that was misquoted or twisted; he is just apparently uncomfortable to realize that the information he provided is consistent with the overall message that global warming might not be caused by rising levels of CO2.

And funny too, that the film actually points out that there are scientists who are making the same complaint on the other side; that they actually do NOT believe that global warming is anthropogenic but that there position has been misrepresented by IPCC. In fact some scientists who dissent from IPCC have been falsely included in the IPCC’s claim of consensus of 2500 scientists, even though these individuals actually hold the opposite opinion.

]]> By: Gray http://themoderatevoice.com/11433/center-of-attention-45/comment-page-1/#comment-62037 Gray Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:03:43 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/uncategorized/center-of-attention-45/#comment-62037 “The Great Global Warming Swindle� You shouldn’t believe that Michael Crichton is the leading authority on global warming. Even if it isn’t an incontrovertible fact that climate change is man made, the sheer amount of evidence supporting this view should convince every resonable human that it’s criminal negligence to bet the future of western civilization on the chance that carbon emissions and other side effects of our industrialized societies have nothing to do with it. You wouldn’t take such a chance on a matter of life and death in your personal decisions, why do you think it’s ok on a national level? “The Great Global Warming Swindle�

You shouldn’t believe that Michael Crichton is the leading authority on global warming. Even if it isn’t an incontrovertible fact that climate change is man made, the sheer amount of evidence supporting this view should convince every resonable human that it’s criminal negligence to bet the future of western civilization on the chance that carbon emissions and other side effects of our industrialized societies have nothing to do with it. You wouldn’t take such a chance on a matter of life and death in your personal decisions, why do you think it’s ok on a national level?

]]> By: The Gun Toting Liberal â„¢ » Blog Archive » Reflecting Upon The Scooter Libby Verdict http://themoderatevoice.com/11433/center-of-attention-45/comment-page-1/#comment-61990 The Gun Toting Liberal â„¢ » Blog Archive » Reflecting Upon The Scooter Libby Verdict Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:57:55 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/uncategorized/center-of-attention-45/#comment-61990 [...] ***** Our good friend Michael van der Galien of The Moderate Voice has included this post in the TMV Center Of Attention feature Technorati Tags:  Bush Administration, Corrupt government, Corruption, Karl Rove, Libby Trial, Patrick Fitzgerald, President Bush, Scooter Libby, Vice President Cheney [...] [...] ***** Our good friend Michael van der Galien of The Moderate Voice has included this post in the TMV Center Of Attention feature Technorati Tags:  Bush Administration, Corrupt government, Corruption, Karl Rove, Libby Trial, Patrick Fitzgerald, President Bush, Scooter Libby, Vice President Cheney [...]

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