THE SPAWN OF “PEACE,” ARAB STYLE

Wonder no longer, my curious specimen.

I haven’t exactly been hanging on every word from the current president, Acahmadinnerjacket, but a previous president of Iran made himself pretty darned clear.

Nuclear Weapons Can Solve the Israel Problem
Rafsanjani said that Muslims must surround colonialism and force them [the colonialists] to see whether Israel is beneficial to them or not. If one day, he said, the world of Islam comes to possess the weapons currently in Israel’s possession [meaning nuclear weapons] – on that day this method of global arrogance would come to a dead end. This, he said, is because the use of a nuclear bomb in Israel will leave nothing on the ground, whereas it will only damage the world of Islam.

That’s one of those oft-repeated lies some of you keep hearing about.

The Arabs were violent long before we took the war to them. They are brutal savages. I don’t know if it is them, or their religion, but I do know that when they learn to act like civilized humans the “hostilities” will stop.

The walking dead one I quoted aabove is just spewing the same nonsense they tell everywhere else. “If only you will stop persecuting us, we will leave you alone.” Unfortunately, what they mean by “persecuting” them, is just us defending ourselves against their perpetual aggression. As I have been saying for the past 6 years, half of the violence in the world is perpetuated by Muslims. The other half is their victims fighting back.

If you really want to have some insight into why they are so violent, look at them, not at how we deal with their violence. Here’s one really good source you can start with.

And Muslims aren’t a “race,” either, so knock off the “racism” bologna.

http://superfrenchie.com/?p=1220

I am going to guess you meant Iran?
I think a Fact Check is in order here.

Ahmadinejad never actually said “wipe Israel off the map”. That is a debunked translation – in Farsi there is not even a phrase for “wipe off the mapâ€?. The proper translation of his statement was “to wipe the regime from the pages of historyâ€?. And when the western press incorrectly reported what he said, Iran immediately issued a public correction – which of course got lost and buried in all the controlled media hysteria over the inflammatory claim of the “wiping Israel off the map” misinformation.
What is clear is that the proper translation of many of Ahmadinejad’s words have been distorted by those in power who seek an excuse to control the Middle East and who seek to demonize Iran as the next boogie-man, in accordance with the “A Clean Break� manifesto, which I encourage all Americans to familiarize themselves with. A quick place to start is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_Realm

But getting back to misquoting Ahmadinejad to perpetrate the false myth that Iran would like to kill all the jews and destroy Israel:

“wipe off the map�…�wipe from the pages of history�
What is the difference you say?
There is a very big difference – one that takes a knowledge of farsi and the cultural syntax of the language to better understand, more than just trying to create outrageous sensational sound bites.

To better understand what he meant – one can also recall Ahmadinejad has also been quoted as saying “Just as the Soviet Union was wiped out and today does not exist, so will the Zionist regime soon be wiped out”. He does NOT call for the genocide of the Jews or destruction of any property. He just says that the illegal Zionist government with all it’s policies, crimes and atrocities must be ended.
In a recent speech where he again made these statements about the Zionist regime in Israel, to clarify his point, he also said that the Soviet Union, was “wiped out and today and does not exist” – which is not to say that the United States bombed the Soviet Union and committed genocide against the Russians. He used the fall of communism in the USSR and an example to make his point of how no matter how well entrenched and powerful and malevolent a force may be – it is possible that things can change for the better.
You will recall that the Soviet Union collapsed and was changed without any death and destruction, ironically – and with self-congratulatory credit taken by the United States, who considered the USSR as big a threat, as perhaps Ahmadinejad sees Israel as being to Palestine and peace and justice in the Middle East).

And of course, there are many Jews living in Israel and the USA, who also think the zionist regime currently ruling Israel’s policies is the biggest threat to the security of Israel and is fueling anti-Jewish sentiment throughout the world.

Ahmadinejad also never “denied the Holocaust existedâ€?. He questions the historical record we have been told and using it as an ongoing rationale/justification for the current “Holocaust” of the Palestinians. The current Israeli government is presently committing genocide to the Palestinians living in the continually shrinking crumb that is left of Palestine.
Ahmadinejad has not called for genocide but for the replacement of Israel as a Jewish state by a multi-national democratic state based on equality among the peoples of historic Palestine. The only genocide that is going on now in the Middle East is what Israel is doing to the Palestinians, and what the US has unleashed in Iraq.
Please don’t take my word, but check into this for yourself – here are a couple places you can start:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12790.htm
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=5866
http://www.globalresearch.ca:80/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=NOR20070120&articleId=4527
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info:80/article14733.htm

One question I would have for you.
Could you please provide some evidence to your claim that (Iran?) is rapidly developing nuclear weapons?

But there are tens of thousands of Jews living in Iran now – quite happy to do so – and they continue to refuse Israel’s offers to relocate to Israel. Why would that be? Maybe because they feel safer living in Iran, than they would in Israel?
Here – check these articles out for yourself:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,,1807160,00.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5367892.stm

http://www.csmonitor.com/cgi-bin/durableRedirect.pl?/durable/1998/02/03/intl/intl.3.html

Now I know that may not jive with what we hear in the mainstream media, but you have to realize that most of what we hear about Iran is twisted/manipulated to demonize Iran. Why does that happen?
Maybe for the same reason other news is manipulated – in the manner this following video describes.
Please take a moment to watch this very important video and then ask yourself why we never hear this side of the story:
Peace Propaganda and the Promised Land:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6604775898578139565&q=Peace+Propaganda+and+the+promised+land

The world needs to come together to make it a safe and better place for ALL people to live.
Thank you.

The rest of your bigotry makes you quite an unusual American — as most Americans are decent people.

great name, considering your argument for peace…
ok israel a warmongering country? c’mon… warmongering – the current US administration is arguably a better fit for that term.
‘extreme hostilities towards Arabs ends..don’t drag your belief in eternal war..lust for death?’ are u just fresh from watching ‘300′ or something? these claims are almost as outrageous as ‘jews eat babies’ dehumanizing propagated garbage. just stop.

Deal with others as reasonable people, be kind to others.

Why don’t the Jews have a clause in their religion that says, “Thou shall not invent false demons. I will have no other demons before me. Their shall be no false monsters. I will have no other monsters before me.” Because, really, all this monster-demon stuff is all in their heads. It’s a self-fulfilling prophesy. I say if your religion hasn’t taught you how to get along with others then it’s time to do one of three things: get a new religion, get a new brain or change the record because it’s broken.

I’ll play New Age Rabbi: My dear Followers, no one wants to be bored or be burdened with the old, old, old stories about the persecutions. Smile and try to be pleasant and try to like other human beings for once. If you really want peace and to stop being persecuted then don’t talk about persecutions past or sometime in the future. Try to like things. Stop hating others. Stop wishing for war. And don’t fake it. We were wrong for telling you that you can rule the world and own all of the land on the earth. So scratch that plan. Mazeltov Habibi.

Please don’t drag your belief in eternal war onto our soil or project your desires onto the USA. If Israelis want war then declare war yourselves so that everyone can here instead of prodding others to do your bidding or sneakily invaded tiny countries such as Lebanon when no one is looking or while they are preoccupied.

I for one do not see war in the future against Arabs or any particular country such as Iran. I do not want my children looking toward war. I want them involved in higher activities. Israelis should keep their warmongering amongst themselves until their lust for death fades to ground zero. No one should be longing for a future war. No one should be saying America or Canada or Austrialia etc., will kill for Israel or for any cause.

Stop campaigning for war and start doing peaceful things with your time.

- A not so unusual American

Israelis are endangered more by terrorism than most places, true. That threat has subsided some ever since they built that part-wall/part-fence separation barrier from the West Bank.

But it’s not terrorism that presents the biggest danger: Israel as a nation has also endured several genocidal wars to “wipe it off the map” by large, Soviet-backed Arab armies. Its “partners for peace” in the West Bank still have its destruction as one of their official goals. It is in a technical state of war with two of its neighbors, and a nation whose president has promised to wipe Israel off the map is funding a well-run guerilla army on its border and rapidly developing nuclear weapons.

Life within Israel is generally high in quality because Israel is a civilized, well-developed nation — better developed and far more civilized than any of its neighbors. But many of those neighbors are on record with the goal of its destruction, and take every opportunity to kill more Israelis. It’s nice to know, Gray, that you find these threats “exaggerated,” but not everyone can be as …optimistic.

“I guess they just lack Gray’s sense of perspective, which only allows Jews to “whineâ€? if their murderers are much more successful.”

Imho the terrorism threat against Jews is very highly exaggerated. There are numerous areas of the world that are much more dangerous. But Israelis present themselves to the rest of the world as the most endangoured species of mankind. Ridiculous.

I guess terrorism isn’t affecting Israeli life expectancy. I have no idea why those mean old Israelis go on “whining” about Arabs blowing up their cafes and shooting “settler” toddlers in their beds. I guess they just lack Gray’s sense of perspective, which only allows Jews to “whine” if their murderers are much more successful.

Thx for the info, Me2. Never heard of this before. Normally, his religion/ancestry wouldn’t matter, but in this context, the alleged Aliyah sure sounds phony.
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Btw, is the life expectacy of Jews in Israel really higher than in France? If it were so, why all the whining about terrorism? :-/

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