Anyways, as for Laura’s comments,

“We ought to be prejudice towards our own civilization because it is superior to islam, which is a misogynist culture that brutally oppresses women and is anathema to our western ideals of tolerance and freedom and so forth.”

A misogynistic culture? I suppose it is worth nothing that Indonesia, Bangladesh, Pakistan, and Turkey have had women heads of state in just the past few decades. (Wiki, it if you don’t believe me. Also note that these Indonesia, alone have more Muslims than the Arab world + Afghanistan combined, so I would use these Arab countries as examples of most muslims worldwide.) Furthermore, the Quran highlights very specific rights for women. Such, the rights of property, the rights of mutual consent with spouses, spiritual equality, so forth. Look at 33:35, 4:19, 9:17, and dozens of others in the Quran.

Another snippette of Laura’s comments,

“Those people who SANCTIFY the brutal murder of women in the name of “honor”… Those people that still practice beheadings and other barbaric actions IN JUST ABOUT EVERY muslim country.”

Yeah…I think Laura would really just want to see Muslims “behind razor wire fences” (In the words of the ever-so great, Glenn Beck, my hero!)
She attempts to dehumanize Muslims by stating non-fact. First of all, thousands of muslims worldwide have denounced such actions by their more stupid Muslim brethern. To suggest that Muslims sanctify these atrocities is downright wrong. In addition, once again, such issues of beheading and “other barbaric” actions, are rarities and only seen in a few Muslim countries, no more significantly different then Western countries and their pedophiles, rapists, abortion clinic murders, and other pathological people.

I’d recommend that Laura make factual statements, maybe even read the Quran before making such harsh judgements.

We need peaceful campaigns not forcible conversions, especially when the other religion’s roots go back deep in history. If one studies Islam it has seen its glorious past as well as brutal past and present. There was a time in history when women enjoyed great respect in the Arab world.

The rise of Wahabis, or extreme conservatism, in Islam was owing to murderous factional fights between Arab tribes in recent times. Although this movement suppressed the intra-tribe violence and fights, there has been no powerful reformist movement to restore basic social/political freedoms.

So anger, hurt and retribution on the part of the West would not solve any problem. Please remember that the US has been supporting such Arab regimes in the recent past. This has complicated the issue because the Arab common people are not necessarily happy or support their rulers.

It is the common people (especially women and children) who are suffering the most, caught between their own rulers and now the might of the US and western forces.

If I was to come up with a comparison, it would be that even though our laws are fair, our government is willing to bend our law and is not subject to international law- in situations of rights of detainees, torture, renditions, etc. In that respect, our society is barbaric.

Laura, like Dan Pipes – “Those brown skinned people smell funny and their food smells badâ€?.

Those people who sanctify the brutal murder of women in the name of “honor”. Those people that still practice beheadings and other barbaric actions in just about every muslim country.

You should learn HISTORY before you use it to justify you own prejudices towards your own culture.

We ought to be prejudice towards our own civilization because it is superior to islam, which is a misogynist culture that brutally oppresses women and is anathema to our western ideals of tolerance and freedom and so forth. Stop perpetuating the PC garbage that all cultures and civilizations are equally worthy. A civilization which sanctifies “honor killings”, practices beheadings, hangs homosexuals among other medieval, barbaric practices is not worthy of our respect. It amazes me how so many western liberals, claiming to champion the rights of women and gays, tolerates and defends such brutal fascism in the name of multiculturalism.

It would be interesting to discuss how immigrant Muslims deal with the fact that they must obey the laws of the country they live in, but that’s another topic.

I can condemn Christianity just as much as Islam if I go by HISTORY.

I can condemn the WEST just as much as ANY other culture if I go by HISTORY.

You should learn HISTORY before you use it to justify you own prejudices towards your own culture.

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