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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10992/john-mccain-makes-the-break/comment-page-1/#comment-53868</link>
		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CS McClown has flip-floped because he said he wouldn&#039;t pander to corrupt  evangelical leaders in 2000. Because W pandered to the RR and beat McClown, he former principled &#039;maverick&#039; now sleeps with Falwell and Robertson. I wait for him to appear on the 700 Club to sell Pat&#039;s shakes.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0002/28/se.01.html

&lt;blockquote&gt;Sen. John McCain Attacks &lt;strong&gt;Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell&lt;/strong&gt;, Republican Establishment as Harming GOP Ideals
Aired February 28, 2000 - 9:59 a.m. ET

 Let me be clear, let me be clear. Evangelical leaders are changing America for the better. Chuck Colson, head of Prison Fellowship, is saving men from life -- from a lifetime behind bars by bringing them the good news of redemption. James Dobson, who does not support me, has devoted his life to rebuilding America&#039;s families. Others are leading the fight against pornography, cultural decline and for life. I stand with them. I am a pro-life, pro-family fiscal conservative, an advocate of a strong defense, and yet&lt;strong&gt; Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and a few Washington leaders of the pro-life movement call me an unacceptable presidential candidate.&lt;/strong&gt; They distort my pro- life positions and smear the reputations of my supporters.

&lt;strong&gt;Why? Because I don&#039;t pander to them, because I don&#039;t ascribe to their failed philosophy that money is our message.&lt;/strong&gt; I believe in the cause of conservative reform. I believe that because we are right we will prevail in the battle of ideas, unspoiled by the taint of a corrupt campaign finance scheme that works against the very conservative reform of government that is the object of our labors. The Republican Party will prevail... &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Eight years later McClown now flip-flops and PANDERS to the corrupt leaders he denouced in 2000. Anything to win the 2008 nomination, will he abandon his &#039;ni**er&#039; baby to win in SC?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CS McClown has flip-floped because he said he wouldn&#8217;t pander to corrupt  evangelical leaders in 2000. Because W pandered to the RR and beat McClown, he former principled &#8216;maverick&#8217; now sleeps with Falwell and Robertson. I wait for him to appear on the 700 Club to sell Pat&#8217;s shakes.</p>
<p><a href="http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0002/28/se.01.html" rel="nofollow">http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0002/28/se.01.html</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Sen. John McCain Attacks <strong>Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell</strong>, Republican Establishment as Harming GOP Ideals<br />
Aired February 28, 2000 &#8211; 9:59 a.m. ET</p>
<p> Let me be clear, let me be clear. Evangelical leaders are changing America for the better. Chuck Colson, head of Prison Fellowship, is saving men from life &#8212; from a lifetime behind bars by bringing them the good news of redemption. James Dobson, who does not support me, has devoted his life to rebuilding America&#8217;s families. Others are leading the fight against pornography, cultural decline and for life. I stand with them. I am a pro-life, pro-family fiscal conservative, an advocate of a strong defense, and yet<strong> Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and a few Washington leaders of the pro-life movement call me an unacceptable presidential candidate.</strong> They distort my pro- life positions and smear the reputations of my supporters.</p>
<p><strong>Why? Because I don&#8217;t pander to them, because I don&#8217;t ascribe to their failed philosophy that money is our message.</strong> I believe in the cause of conservative reform. I believe that because we are right we will prevail in the battle of ideas, unspoiled by the taint of a corrupt campaign finance scheme that works against the very conservative reform of government that is the object of our labors. The Republican Party will prevail&#8230; </p></blockquote>
<p>Eight years later McClown now flip-flops and PANDERS to the corrupt leaders he denouced in 2000. Anything to win the 2008 nomination, will he abandon his &#8216;ni**er&#8217; baby to win in SC?</p>
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		<title>By: C Stanley</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10992/john-mccain-makes-the-break/comment-page-1/#comment-53828</link>
		<dc:creator>C Stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sister Toldjah&#039;s post on this is a must read (see trackback link in comment #7).

I&#039;m not a McCain fan but I fail to see where he has flipflopped on this and I don&#039;t get the brouhaha over it. It also doesn&#039;t seem to be much different than the comments that Guiliani recently made, but if Guiliani&#039;s phrasing of it worked and McCain&#039;s didn&#039;t, that&#039;s OK by me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sister Toldjah&#8217;s post on this is a must read (see trackback link in comment #7).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a McCain fan but I fail to see where he has flipflopped on this and I don&#8217;t get the brouhaha over it. It also doesn&#8217;t seem to be much different than the comments that Guiliani recently made, but if Guiliani&#8217;s phrasing of it worked and McCain&#8217;s didn&#8217;t, that&#8217;s OK by me.</p>
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		<title>By: carpeicthus</title>
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		<dc:creator>carpeicthus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great. The political dishonesty of the top three GOP candidates takes by breath away. At least politicians used to bother to make excuses for it. Brownback for GOP candidate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great. The political dishonesty of the top three GOP candidates takes by breath away. At least politicians used to bother to make excuses for it. Brownback for GOP candidate!</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10992/john-mccain-makes-the-break/comment-page-1/#comment-53787</link>
		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe this position will help him with Dobson. Maybe he will demand for public stoning of &quot;fagg**s&quot; to pander even more to the Evangelicals. Michigan won&#039;t love him now, Bob Jones does....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe this position will help him with Dobson. Maybe he will demand for public stoning of &#8220;fagg**s&#8221; to pander even more to the Evangelicals. Michigan won&#8217;t love him now, Bob Jones does&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Gun Toting Liberal â„¢ &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Alabama Republican War On Sex Toys Upheld In Court; Senator McCain Sure To Be Proud Of Newest GOP Victory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gun Toting Liberal â„¢ &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Alabama Republican War On Sex Toys Upheld In Court; Senator McCain Sure To Be Proud Of Newest GOP Victory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah &#187; Senator McCain expresses belief that Roe v. Wade should be overturned</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah &#187; Senator McCain expresses belief that Roe v. Wade should be overturned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Joe Gandelman also incorrectly classifies McCain&#8217;s position on Roe v. Wade as &#8220;making a break&#8221; - break from what, exactly? A position he&#8217;s always had? My liberal friend Michael J.W. Stickings thinks stances like being in favor of overturning Roe v. Wade equate to McCain taking &#8216;extremist positions.&#8217; Wha? I guess that would make me an &#8216;extremist&#8217;, eh, Michael? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Joe Gandelman also incorrectly classifies McCain&#8217;s position on Roe v. Wade as &#8220;making a break&#8221; &#8211; break from what, exactly? A position he&#8217;s always had? My liberal friend Michael J.W. Stickings thinks stances like being in favor of overturning Roe v. Wade equate to McCain taking &#8216;extremist positions.&#8217; Wha? I guess that would make me an &#8216;extremist&#8217;, eh, Michael? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Silver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Silver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 14:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain is losing me. Instead of leading and educating, he is pandering.  

I would prefer he took the position that there is a lot we can all do together to reduce the number of abortions and facilitate the process of adoption.  

I believe that most of us prefer that abortion be a last choice and that that choice be made by the mother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain is losing me. Instead of leading and educating, he is pandering.  </p>
<p>I would prefer he took the position that there is a lot we can all do together to reduce the number of abortions and facilitate the process of adoption.  </p>
<p>I believe that most of us prefer that abortion be a last choice and that that choice be made by the mother.</p>
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		<title>By: cosmoetica</title>
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		<dc:creator>cosmoetica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain is toast, but Lynx- ask New Yorkers of Giuliani&#039;s fascist tendencies. He&#039;ll make Bush look like a schoolboy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain is toast, but Lynx- ask New Yorkers of Giuliani&#8217;s fascist tendencies. He&#8217;ll make Bush look like a schoolboy!</p>
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		<title>By: gatorboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>gatorboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a independent who voted for McCain and has waited eagerly for his 2008 campaign to start up, I have to say with regret that after this announcement that I am SO over him.  Rudy is starting to look better and better to me...........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a independent who voted for McCain and has waited eagerly for his 2008 campaign to start up, I have to say with regret that after this announcement that I am SO over him.  Rudy is starting to look better and better to me&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Lynx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 09:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Giuliani must be thrilled. If McCain really stands by the strictly pro-life position, he&#039;ll gain the base, but I&#039;m betting he&#039;ll lose plenty of independents, who will interpret this as McCain deciding to give the wheel to religious social conservatives AGAIN. He&#039;s strongly pro-Iraq war, which already pits him against a majority of Americans, and he&#039;s mostly lost his &quot;maverick&quot; rep. Mind you, I think it&#039;s great that a politician takes a position, a real one, on a subject. I think it&#039;s the wrong decision, but at least he&#039;s spelled in out clearly. 

At this rate Giuliani is going to be on the GOP ticket, which means that I won&#039;t have to be terrified of who&#039;ll be president in &#039;08. The worst that could happen is that McCain panders so much to the GOP base that social conservatives give him the nomination. But too much pandering would make him un-electable in the national elections, giving the presidency to the democrats, which also works fine for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giuliani must be thrilled. If McCain really stands by the strictly pro-life position, he&#8217;ll gain the base, but I&#8217;m betting he&#8217;ll lose plenty of independents, who will interpret this as McCain deciding to give the wheel to religious social conservatives AGAIN. He&#8217;s strongly pro-Iraq war, which already pits him against a majority of Americans, and he&#8217;s mostly lost his &#8220;maverick&#8221; rep. Mind you, I think it&#8217;s great that a politician takes a position, a real one, on a subject. I think it&#8217;s the wrong decision, but at least he&#8217;s spelled in out clearly. </p>
<p>At this rate Giuliani is going to be on the GOP ticket, which means that I won&#8217;t have to be terrified of who&#8217;ll be president in &#8216;08. The worst that could happen is that McCain panders so much to the GOP base that social conservatives give him the nomination. But too much pandering would make him un-electable in the national elections, giving the presidency to the democrats, which also works fine for me.</p>
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		<title>By: University Update</title>
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		<dc:creator>University Update</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 09:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;John McCain Makes The Break...&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<title>By: Michael van der Galien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael van der Galien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 09:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ll see where this will take him.

One thing is, indeed, very clear. He believes that he has to move to the right in order to win the Republican nomination. He doesn&#039;t just believe that, however, he is willing to act accordingly... 

A sad thing, really. The two Republican front-runners &lt;em&gt;could&lt;/em&gt; have been two reasonably &#039;moderate&#039; people (as in not too conservative).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ll see where this will take him.</p>
<p>One thing is, indeed, very clear. He believes that he has to move to the right in order to win the Republican nomination. He doesn&#8217;t just believe that, however, he is willing to act accordingly&#8230; </p>
<p>A sad thing, really. The two Republican front-runners <em>could</em> have been two reasonably &#8216;moderate&#8217; people (as in not too conservative).</p>
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