Comments on: Language Matters: Political Rhetoric and North Korea http://themoderatevoice.com/10912/language-matters-political-rhetoric-and-north-korea/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:37:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: kritter http://themoderatevoice.com/10912/language-matters-political-rhetoric-and-north-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-53115 kritter Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:41:18 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/foreign-affairs/language-matters-political-rhetoric-and-north-korea/#comment-53115 It just shows that a carrot and stick approach works much better with dangerous foes than the stick alone. I agree with the first commenter- diplomacy is not this administration's strong point, though the 6-party talks was a good idea that brought them success. "Axis of Evil" rhetoric only antagonizes our enemies, who feel backed into a corner. Rather than retreat, many have united against us. It just shows that a carrot and stick approach works much better with dangerous foes than the stick alone. I agree with the first commenter- diplomacy is not this administration’s strong point, though the 6-party talks was a good idea that brought them success. “Axis of Evil” rhetoric only antagonizes our enemies, who feel backed into a corner. Rather than retreat, many have united against us.

]]> By: Rudi http://themoderatevoice.com/10912/language-matters-political-rhetoric-and-north-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-53018 Rudi Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:38:05 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/foreign-affairs/language-matters-political-rhetoric-and-north-korea/#comment-53018 Please don't give 'new shoes' Condo so much credit. If a Bolton hack was at the table it would still be going nowhere. Chris Hill has the resume and the Koreans respect him. Give credit where credit is due. Please don’t give ‘new shoes’ Condo so much credit. If a Bolton hack was at the table it would still be going nowhere. Chris Hill has the resume and the Koreans respect him. Give credit where credit is due.

]]> By: grognard http://themoderatevoice.com/10912/language-matters-political-rhetoric-and-north-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-53004 grognard Thu, 15 Feb 2007 13:38:52 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/foreign-affairs/language-matters-political-rhetoric-and-north-korea/#comment-53004 domajot, yes China does not want an arms race in Asia. China has no interest in Japan and Tiawan using fear of North Korea to begin nuclear weapons programs. They are also trying to engage North Koreas younger generation who look to the economic revolution going on in China as an example for Korea to follow. As the old guard dies off in Korea Kims position becomes less secure, he wants his son to take over creating an opening for a younger and more pragmatic generation of leaders to put an end to the dynasty and set Korea on a new course. domajot, yes China does not want an arms race in Asia. China has no interest in Japan and Tiawan using fear of North Korea to begin nuclear weapons programs. They are also trying to engage North Koreas younger generation who look to the economic revolution going on in China as an example for Korea to follow. As the old guard dies off in Korea Kims position becomes less secure, he wants his son to take over creating an opening for a younger and more pragmatic generation of leaders to put an end to the dynasty and set Korea on a new course.

]]> By: domajot http://themoderatevoice.com/10912/language-matters-political-rhetoric-and-north-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-52999 domajot Thu, 15 Feb 2007 12:15:21 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/foreign-affairs/language-matters-political-rhetoric-and-north-korea/#comment-52999 "what other factors do you see as having had a positive effect? " ---------- China. “what other factors do you see as having had a positive effect? ”
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China.

]]> By: C Stanley http://themoderatevoice.com/10912/language-matters-political-rhetoric-and-north-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-52981 C Stanley Thu, 15 Feb 2007 10:38:19 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/foreign-affairs/language-matters-political-rhetoric-and-north-korea/#comment-52981 <blockquote>I'm not trying to suggest that this recent deal is just a result of a change in the tone of our rhetoric, of course.</blockquote>Actually Jeb, I did get the impression from this article that you were trying to suggest that. So if not, then what other factors do you see as having had a positive effect?

I’m not trying to suggest that this recent deal is just a result of a change in the tone of our rhetoric, of course.

Actually Jeb, I did get the impression from this article that you were trying to suggest that. So if not, then what other factors do you see as having had a positive effect?

]]> By: Jeb Koogler http://themoderatevoice.com/10912/language-matters-political-rhetoric-and-north-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-52963 Jeb Koogler Thu, 15 Feb 2007 05:07:06 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/foreign-affairs/language-matters-political-rhetoric-and-north-korea/#comment-52963 Good point, Dick. The failure to engage with our enemies in 1-on-1 dialogue is a huge strategic blunder. Good point, Dick. The failure to engage with our enemies in 1-on-1 dialogue is a huge strategic blunder.

]]> By: Chris http://themoderatevoice.com/10912/language-matters-political-rhetoric-and-north-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-52960 Chris Thu, 15 Feb 2007 04:53:02 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/foreign-affairs/language-matters-political-rhetoric-and-north-korea/#comment-52960 I know this is the wrong place for this... but check out <a href="http://www.whyweworry.com/content/?p=599" rel="nofollow">this news about former NBA player Tim Hardaway</a>: Le Batard: How do you deal with a gay teammate? Hardaway: ``First of all I wouldn't want him on my team. And second of all, if he was on my team, you know, I would really distance myself from him because, uh, I don't think that is right. I don't think that he should be in the locker room while we are in the locker room, and it's just a whole lot of other things and I wouldn't even be a part of that. But stuff like that is going on and there's a lot of other people I hear that are like that and still in the closet and don't want to come out of the closet, but you know I just leave that alone. Le Batard: You know what you are saying there is flatly homophobic? It's bigotry? Hardaway: ``Well, you know I hate gay people, so I let it be known. I don't like gay people and I don't like to be around gay people. I am homophobic. I don't like it. It shouldn't be in the world or in the United States. So yeah, I don't like it.'' I know this is the wrong place for this… but check out this news about former NBA player Tim Hardaway:

Le Batard: How do you deal with a gay teammate?

Hardaway: “First of all I wouldn’t want him on my team. And second of all, if he was on my team, you know, I would really distance myself from him because, uh, I don’t think that is right. I don’t think that he should be in the locker room while we are in the locker room, and it’s just a whole lot of other things and I wouldn’t even be a part of that. But stuff like that is going on and there’s a lot of other people I hear that are like that and still in the closet and don’t want to come out of the closet, but you know I just leave that alone.

Le Batard: You know what you are saying there is flatly homophobic? It’s bigotry?

Hardaway: “Well, you know I hate gay people, so I let it be known. I don’t like gay people and I don’t like to be around gay people. I am homophobic. I don’t like it. It shouldn’t be in the world or in the United States. So yeah, I don’t like it.”

]]> By: Dick McMichael http://themoderatevoice.com/10912/language-matters-political-rhetoric-and-north-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-52956 Dick McMichael Thu, 15 Feb 2007 04:13:23 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/foreign-affairs/language-matters-political-rhetoric-and-north-korea/#comment-52956 Foreign affairs is not President Bush's long suit. He has made a botch of it with his Iraq invasion being his greatest blunder. He seemed to have thought that the best way to conduct foreign policy is through the use of force or the threat of force. His arrogance has aliented much of the world and strained relations with allies. Much of the world has lost respect for the United States because of his foreign policy. He still will not talk with Iran or Syria in an effort to end the violence in Iraq and bring peace to the Middle East even though it has been made clear to him that talks with enemies like the Soviet Union and China prevented a nuclear war that would have destroyed the world. Yes, talking with enemies can bring about positive results. North Korea didn't come around until the United States became less insulting. He just doesn't know what he is doing and, worse, he doesn't know that he doesn't know. Foreign affairs is not President Bush’s long suit. He has made a botch of it with his Iraq invasion being his greatest blunder. He seemed to have thought that the best way to conduct foreign policy is through the use of force or the threat of force.

His arrogance has aliented much of the world and strained relations with allies. Much of the world has lost respect for the United States because of his foreign policy. He still will not talk with Iran or Syria in an effort to end the violence in Iraq and bring peace to the Middle East even though it has been made clear to him that talks with enemies like the Soviet Union and China prevented a nuclear war that would have destroyed the world. Yes, talking with enemies can bring about positive results. North Korea didn’t come around until the United States became less insulting. He just doesn’t know what he is doing and, worse, he doesn’t know that he doesn’t know.

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