Comments on: Time’s Joe Klein On Blogging: “The Elements Of Vile”

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By: The Editor's Log

The Editor's Log — Mon, 12 Feb 2007 15:04:23 +0000

The wisdom of the crowds, part I…

As more mainstream media types venture into the blogosphere, more journalists are surprised by the vitriol here. It’s doesn’t lend itself to a civil discussion, they might well say. Heck, I’ve said the same. From Joe Gandelman at The Moderate……

By: grognard

grognard — Mon, 12 Feb 2007 13:28:02 +0000

It basically boils down to people behaving like adults or children, but then again I hide behind a pseudonym

By: Gray

Gray — Mon, 12 Feb 2007 08:53:30 +0000

Joe Klein. D’oh. The guy who was for the Iraq war, before he claimed he was against it. I guess with this idiotic column he only wants to divert attention from his shameful spinning of his uncritical stance in the past. Liar, liar, pants on fire…

By: angliss

angliss — Mon, 12 Feb 2007 04:23:20 +0000

I read a fascinating article in the most recent Discover magazine about how the Internet came to be so loony and full of bile. It’s all pegged down to, of all things, the war on drugs. Basically, the Internet has an excessive amount of anonymity because the people who created it (and the founders of the EFF, for one) were scared that the government would ship them off to jail for smoking dope, so they made sure it was easy to be anonymous. And because we all can use pseudonyms instead of our real names (Angliss is my real last name, BTW – I personally feel it’s a cop-out to hide behind a pseudonym), we don’t have any social filters between our emotional responses to what we read and our fingers.

Fascinating little piece.

By: swa

swa — Mon, 12 Feb 2007 00:15:44 +0000

Klein hits on today’s growth venue, but in fact political discourse went through years of coarsening and dumbing down during the antiwar protest years of the late 1960s and 1970s.

I seem to recall how back then a bunch of protesters spent a day or two occupying the rooftops and upper floors of several buildings at Columbia Universtiy. They passed the time screaming obscenities at passers-by. They got news coverage, but had no impact on war policy or politics.

With the coming of Ronald Reagan the burgeoning, well-financed right-wing noise machine â€” of which Time/CNN is a part â€” took over where campus radicals and itinerant sociopaths had left off. Klein’s mention of Rush Limbaugh as emblematic is fair but so vastly understates the depth and breadth of this development that it’s ridiculous. Klein should spend some time at Red State, Free Republic and Blogs for Bush.

Sure, there are bloggers on the left who trade in incendiary prose and a steady flow of profanity-laced insults, in posts and comments alike.

What it comes down to is that the blogosphere is like a city, with tough neighborhoods where it’s easy to get mugged and relatively safe, orderly areas where people behave themselves rather well â€” the Oh!pinion weblog being one example, at least most of the time.

By: richard mcenroe

richard mcenroe — Sun, 11 Feb 2007 19:21:50 +0000

Itâ€™s obvious that the current level of vitriol on the left is a reaction to nearly twenty years of sewage emanating from Rush et al.

Dear Mr. Klien, I give you… the 1960’s, where our current ‘adult’ generation of ‘progressives’ honed their rhetorical skills.

As a lagniappe, you are invited to look at just about any American university during the Reagan years, any arts community… and a pretty fair chunk of your own print media.

‘Sewage on the right,’ along with that tired old trope ’suppression of dissent’ remain, as always, synonymous with ‘No fair! You’re talking back to me!’