Hydrocodone….

This is just reality. If any of you bloggers want to be campaign bloggers I suggest you go to political correctness 101 and 102 and every other class they offer because if you say Poop one time…….your toast.

Besides it making a sloppy mess of the comments section with nonsensical short blurp rants, it’s making it harder to keep up with the actual friggen debate they apparently don’t care to engage in going on here.

Punt em unless they as individuals care to debate, otherwise they are here to target bloggers. More fake outrage from the far right, sans the nuts to debate it.

Yes Joe . That is both a fact and an indictment. So I see no problem with going after Bloggers for what they say. Answering free speech with MORE free speech does not constitute an attack on the first amendment. These people own their remarks, period!
There is nothing special about the blogasphere which calls for different rules . This seems like a modern version of screaming sanctuary in a church. Unfortunately for some bloggers that went out in the 17th century.

I continue to be amazed that the assertion that these two bloggers are popular with progressive is being disputed. I did not say they are popular with conservatives. And the issue is not whether someone who is conservative likes them or not, the issue is whether it is accurate to say they are popular with many progressive readers and bloggers. That would be like me disputing that Protein Wisdom is a popular blog on the right if I disagreed with them on something. Sorry. They are popular.

Joe, I think that I’m the only one who took issue with this so I assume this comment is in response to mine. I think you’re misunderstanding. I am not disputing that they are popular with progressives, and I’m not saying that you are correct to note that. But when I read your initial post where you ONLY said that, without acknowledging that part of the reason for their popularity is their attack rhetoric (or at least acknowledging that they use those kinds of arguments and it is accepted by progressives). In other words, fine to acknowledge that they’re respected by progressives, but should they be respected by moderates?? What happened to the dire need to change the dialogue in American and tone down the hate speech?

In other words, I felt that you were somewhat dismissive of their over-the-top comments. Everybody does it now and then, no big deal, par for the course in blogtopia.

And frankly I don’t get the idea that a hire by a candidate shouldn’t take history into account, or that there shouldn’t be any guilt by association. Most people here were critical of the Harold Ford ads…so if a future GOP candidate uses the same ad agency, there’s no issue with that? No accusations that he/she might approve of the use of subtle racist messages (not that I agree with that- but for those who felt that way about those ads, I doubt they would be willing to ignore the history). I guess you could say that what these bloggers wrote on their blogs didn’t represent the kind of writing that they will now do for Edwards as his representative, but I think that ignores the fact that he obviously hired them for the way they communicate and the way their readers respond to him; he is trying to court that audience. I wouldn’t say there’s anything wrong with that, but doing so also causes backlash with people who are offended by the bloggers and candidates should accept that as part of the deal and decide if it still weighs in their favor.

And, I would think that moderates would prefer candidates who aren’t trying to play the two sides of the political spectrum off of each other. If you don’t feel that this applies to this situation, I’m trying to figure out why not?

Joe Gandelman looks at the Marcotte and McEwan brouhaha and concludes: “Be forewarned: it’s likely to happen now to all bloggers who want to join campaign staffs of any party. The bar has been moved with a little less freedom……

We’re just really starting on the more detailed monitoring of comments.

Rather than remove any of the above, I would advise all those reading them to note: it is more intelligent to stick to the issues and not make comments about people’s looks etc. It doesn’t matter if a blogger is right left or centrist. (Of course it’s easy for me to say since I look like Brad Pitt.). That being said, if someone has a complaint it will be taken seriously if we get an email, not if we read a link and find that a sarcastic comment with no email pointing something out to us. In fact, we have done MANY internal emails on the need to police comments. But I think the write of that post wasn’t interested in the quality of our comments. Someone interested in serious discussion and quality control would have emailed me.

Joe Gandleman is worried that what bloggers say may matter enough to be held against them……

John Edwards had to pick between two bad choices today in order to contain the damage from the controversial prior writings of two bloggers hired by his campaign as liaisons to Internet activists. The former VP nominee, stuck between offending……

“Yet, worse even, is that the press would try to turn “bad language” into a controversy (or now it’s anti-Catholic ideas I hear…um, Bob Jones anyone?) and ignore a McCain campaign manager Terry Nelson. As head of the NRSC’s independent expenditure unit in 2006, Nelson is the one who approved the “call me” race-baiting ad that played on fears of miscegenation, which led those liberals at Wal-Mart to fire his firm they found it so offensive.

Nelson was an unindicted co-conspirator of Tom DeLay’s in his money laundering scheme in Texas (the TRMPAC scandal), and was forced to testify in the matter. He was also in the middle of Republican efforts to jam phones in New Hampshire in 2002, to hamper the Democratic GOTV effort in a tight senate race. He was James Tobin’s boss at the RNC, a man who was eventually convicted of this crime. Nothing fishy there.”

Ok lets see here….race baiting gets him fired from uber righty Wal Mart, he’s an old buddy of Delay’s of TRMPAC fame, and then buddies with the guy that goes down for phone jamming during an election in New Hampshire. Yep those two bloggers are evil and have to go right now! But dare not speak ill of GOP operatives mass media! LMAO

BTW, I vastly prefer narcissistic commentators and bloviating self-important ones to those who really know anything.