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		<title>By: keno</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10776/close-the-bundling-loophole/comment-page-1/#comment-54540</link>
		<dc:creator>keno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 09:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;keno numbers...&lt;/strong&gt;

cio eko...</description>
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<p>cio eko&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10776/close-the-bundling-loophole/comment-page-1/#comment-51110</link>
		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 09:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you look up whose richest in the U.S. Senate, they are all Democrats.&quot;
SuperDD, even if this is true, what&#039;s your problem with that? You want to advocate class warfare here???

&quot;If you look up the voting patterns on Manhatten County (where those talking heads, reporters, editors, and publishers live) who will see that 82% voted Democratic.&quot;
While Manhattan may have a higher share of media people than the US in general, who says it&#039;s typical for the media business? Do you thnk the NYT is typical for the newspaper business? Come on...

&quot;It is only the extreme left that argues that the media is controlled by the Republicans.&quot;
&quot;&lt;strong&gt;Only&lt;/strong&gt; the &lt;strong&gt;extreme&lt;/strong&gt; left&quot; - how do you know? Got any polls? Crystal ball? I Ging? 
And do you think the opposite is true, too?
&#039;It is &lt;strong&gt;only&lt;/strong&gt; the &lt;strong&gt;extreme&lt;/strong&gt; right that argues that the media is controlled by liberals.&#039; Sounds like BS to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you look up whose richest in the U.S. Senate, they are all Democrats.&#8221;<br />
SuperDD, even if this is true, what&#8217;s your problem with that? You want to advocate class warfare here???</p>
<p>&#8220;If you look up the voting patterns on Manhatten County (where those talking heads, reporters, editors, and publishers live) who will see that 82% voted Democratic.&#8221;<br />
While Manhattan may have a higher share of media people than the US in general, who says it&#8217;s typical for the media business? Do you thnk the NYT is typical for the newspaper business? Come on&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;It is only the extreme left that argues that the media is controlled by the Republicans.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;<strong>Only</strong> the <strong>extreme</strong> left&#8221; &#8211; how do you know? Got any polls? Crystal ball? I Ging?<br />
And do you think the opposite is true, too?<br />
&#8216;It is <strong>only</strong> the <strong>extreme</strong> right that argues that the media is controlled by liberals.&#8217; Sounds like BS to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 00:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CP Is that crack from the Maytag repairman?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CP Is that crack from the Maytag repairman?</p>
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		<title>By: ChuckPrez</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10776/close-the-bundling-loophole/comment-page-1/#comment-50930</link>
		<dc:creator>ChuckPrez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*smokes crack rock under fbi/dea surveillance in this post*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*smokes crack rock under fbi/dea surveillance in this post*</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10776/close-the-bundling-loophole/comment-page-1/#comment-50926</link>
		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, that evil Socialist Abrams family (Dan, Floyd and Elliot) have infiltrated MSNBC, will Castro soon be loved at MSNBC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that evil Socialist Abrams family (Dan, Floyd and Elliot) have infiltrated MSNBC, will Castro soon be loved at MSNBC.</p>
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		<title>By: kritter</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SD- How is DC more corrupt now than it was 20 years ago? Their last mayor, Tony Williams was a vast improvement over the Marion Barry years. Aren&#039;t you making a big generalization there????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SD- How is DC more corrupt now than it was 20 years ago? Their last mayor, Tony Williams was a vast improvement over the Marion Barry years. Aren&#8217;t you making a big generalization there????</p>
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		<title>By: ChuckPrez</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10776/close-the-bundling-loophole/comment-page-1/#comment-50896</link>
		<dc:creator>ChuckPrez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 17:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The media is controlled by the rich and elite, period.  Party affiliation doesn&#039;t matter to me, to be honest.  I&#039;m more worried about the haves vs. have nots over repukelican vs. dumbocrat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The media is controlled by the rich and elite, period.  Party affiliation doesn&#8217;t matter to me, to be honest.  I&#8217;m more worried about the haves vs. have nots over repukelican vs. dumbocrat</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 17:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gray, 

If you look up whose richest in the U.S. Senate, they are all Democrats. If you look up the voting patterns on Manhatten County (where those talking heads, reporters, editors, and publishers live) who will see that 82% voted Democratic. I think it is a safe bet that very few of them are Republican. Remember, at one time all three of the major over the air networks were headed by Jews.  Are arguing that all of the jews in Manhatten are Republicans?  

You are falling into that trap that believe rich=Republican when in reality, middle class=Republican and rich=Democratic (See everyone from Mark Dayton, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, George Soros, Maria Cantawell, Jon Corzine, etc). 

It is only the extreme left that argues that the media is controlled by the Republicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gray, </p>
<p>If you look up whose richest in the U.S. Senate, they are all Democrats. If you look up the voting patterns on Manhatten County (where those talking heads, reporters, editors, and publishers live) who will see that 82% voted Democratic. I think it is a safe bet that very few of them are Republican. Remember, at one time all three of the major over the air networks were headed by Jews.  Are arguing that all of the jews in Manhatten are Republicans?  </p>
<p>You are falling into that trap that believe rich=Republican when in reality, middle class=Republican and rich=Democratic (See everyone from Mark Dayton, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, George Soros, Maria Cantawell, Jon Corzine, etc). </p>
<p>It is only the extreme left that argues that the media is controlled by the Republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10776/close-the-bundling-loophole/comment-page-1/#comment-50886</link>
		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 16:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And don &#039;t tell me of Hannity and Colmes. Damn, who&#039;s supposed to be the liberal of the two, I can&#039;t memorize this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And don &#8216;t tell me of Hannity and Colmes. Damn, who&#8217;s supposed to be the liberal of the two, I can&#8217;t memorize this?</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 16:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Also, hasnâ€™t MSNBC decided to be for the left what Fox is for the right?&quot;

They fired Phil Donahue, they hired Ollie North, and now they have Joe Scarborough, so that&#039;s news to me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Also, hasnâ€™t MSNBC decided to be for the left what Fox is for the right?&#8221;</p>
<p>They fired Phil Donahue, they hired Ollie North, and now they have Joe Scarborough, so that&#8217;s news to me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 16:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The MacNeil/Lehrer NewsHour went to work for the Clinton White House and then went back to work for PBS after leaving the White House.&quot;

Uh huh. And what do you think about George Tenet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The MacNeil/Lehrer NewsHour went to work for the Clinton White House and then went back to work for PBS after leaving the White House.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh huh. And what do you think about George Tenet?</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 16:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;childish bickering between two sides&quot;
That&#039;s my youthful personality shining through! 
:D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;childish bickering between two sides&#8221;<br />
That&#8217;s my youthful personality shining through!<br />
 <img src='http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10776/close-the-bundling-loophole/comment-page-1/#comment-50878</link>
		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 16:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Just look at the personal voting and donation patterns of talking heads and reporters of the news channels.&quot;

Reporters do the writing, editors decide what&#039;s inthe news, on the screen, or online. Editors are chosen by the management of the media corps. I guess it&#039;s safe to assume most of them don&#039;t vote Dem. As for the reporters, who says they&#039;re not dinos, Lieberman-like, especially the more afluent among them? How liberal can a millionaire be? Just look at that moron Chris Mathews...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Just look at the personal voting and donation patterns of talking heads and reporters of the news channels.&#8221;</p>
<p>Reporters do the writing, editors decide what&#8217;s inthe news, on the screen, or online. Editors are chosen by the management of the media corps. I guess it&#8217;s safe to assume most of them don&#8217;t vote Dem. As for the reporters, who says they&#8217;re not dinos, Lieberman-like, especially the more afluent among them? How liberal can a millionaire be? Just look at that moron Chris Mathews&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ChuckPrez</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChuckPrez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 16:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...as Superdestroyer COMPLETELY misses the point I brought up...if there were more major parties we wouldn&#039;t even have this kind of B.S. back and forth childish bickering between two sides...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;as Superdestroyer COMPLETELY misses the point I brought up&#8230;if there were more major parties we wouldn&#8217;t even have this kind of B.S. back and forth childish bickering between two sides&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10776/close-the-bundling-loophole/comment-page-1/#comment-50871</link>
		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 16:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rudi, 

The Democratic controlled areas like DC have been very corrupt for decades yet are more Democratic Party leaning that they were 20 years ago.  The Democratic Party has the benefit of being able to function with different faction being on opposite sides of issues without a huge amount of infighting. Also, the Democratic party also has factions  that will vote for it (blacks, Hispanics, Jews, gays, unions, government employees) no matter how corrupt the individual elected leaders are. 

Gray, 

I will not repeat the clichces that are used to argue about control of the media.  Just look at the personal voting and donation patterns of talking heads and reporters of the news channels. Look at the who holds fundraiser in Hollywood.  If anything PBS function as a defacto arm of the DNC.  Remember, when the conservative commentator from The MacNeil/Lehrer NewsHour went to work for the Clinton White House and then went back to work for PBS after leaving the White House. 

Also, hasn&#039;t MSNBC decided to be for the left what Fox is for the right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rudi, </p>
<p>The Democratic controlled areas like DC have been very corrupt for decades yet are more Democratic Party leaning that they were 20 years ago.  The Democratic Party has the benefit of being able to function with different faction being on opposite sides of issues without a huge amount of infighting. Also, the Democratic party also has factions  that will vote for it (blacks, Hispanics, Jews, gays, unions, government employees) no matter how corrupt the individual elected leaders are. </p>
<p>Gray, </p>
<p>I will not repeat the clichces that are used to argue about control of the media.  Just look at the personal voting and donation patterns of talking heads and reporters of the news channels. Look at the who holds fundraiser in Hollywood.  If anything PBS function as a defacto arm of the DNC.  Remember, when the conservative commentator from The MacNeil/Lehrer NewsHour went to work for the Clinton White House and then went back to work for PBS after leaving the White House. </p>
<p>Also, hasn&#8217;t MSNBC decided to be for the left what Fox is for the right?</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 16:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In todayâ€™s NY times David Brooks writes despondently about how reasonable and open minded many of our Representatives are in private and how partisan they are in public.&quot;

Maybe that&#039;s true. But Broder wouldn&#039;t know. Because Representatives don&#039;t speak to him, they speak to media outlet instead. Even when they&#039;re off the record, they will still try to present a carefully crafted image to him. The smart ones, that want to serve another term, at least. Broder is an idiot for not noticing this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In todayâ€™s NY times David Brooks writes despondently about how reasonable and open minded many of our Representatives are in private and how partisan they are in public.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe that&#8217;s true. But Broder wouldn&#8217;t know. Because Representatives don&#8217;t speak to him, they speak to media outlet instead. Even when they&#8217;re off the record, they will still try to present a carefully crafted image to him. The smart ones, that want to serve another term, at least. Broder is an idiot for not noticing this.</p>
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		<title>By: ChuckPrez</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChuckPrez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 16:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah no one party should have a majority in any legislature or the supreme court...and the executive branch should be like how it USED to be:  Winner becomes president, runner up becomes vice president, and ELIMINATE the electoral college and the winner is decided solely on the popular vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah no one party should have a majority in any legislature or the supreme court&#8230;and the executive branch should be like how it USED to be:  Winner becomes president, runner up becomes vice president, and ELIMINATE the electoral college and the winner is decided solely on the popular vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 16:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We need more political partiesâ€¦the two party system is an utter failure in my opinionâ€¦Iâ€™d like to see AT MINIMUM 4 major political parties.&quot;

It would make politic more transparent for the public, indeed, it wuld be much easier to understand who is on which side and how the distribution of power looks like. But, sadly, that&#039;s not the way your system is build. You&#039;ll have to heavily ammend the constitution, the &#039;winner takes it all&#039; system has to go. and you have to be careful about the new procedures, or you&#039;ll end up with a &#039;democracy&#039; like Italy or Israel, where a &#039;rabbit breeder party&#039; can influence the working of the government. :-(

Hey, why don&#039;t you simply introduce the German parliamentary system to the US? Americans had a mayor impact in creating it anyway!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We need more political partiesâ€¦the two party system is an utter failure in my opinionâ€¦Iâ€™d like to see AT MINIMUM 4 major political parties.&#8221;</p>
<p>It would make politic more transparent for the public, indeed, it wuld be much easier to understand who is on which side and how the distribution of power looks like. But, sadly, that&#8217;s not the way your system is build. You&#8217;ll have to heavily ammend the constitution, the &#8216;winner takes it all&#8217; system has to go. and you have to be careful about the new procedures, or you&#8217;ll end up with a &#8216;democracy&#8217; like Italy or Israel, where a &#8216;rabbit breeder party&#8217; can influence the working of the government. <img src='http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Hey, why don&#8217;t you simply introduce the German parliamentary system to the US? Americans had a mayor impact in creating it anyway!</p>
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		<title>By: ChuckPrez</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChuckPrez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need more political parties...the two party system is an utter failure in my opinion...I&#039;d like to see AT MINIMUM &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;4&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; major political parties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need more political parties&#8230;the two party system is an utter failure in my opinion&#8230;I&#8217;d like to see AT MINIMUM <strong><em>4</em></strong> major political parties.</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;When the Demonocrats become as corrept and â€˜do nothingâ€™ as the last six years let the voters make a change. There are some good signs.&quot;

Indeed! I agree, the highly estimable enhanced scrutiny of lobbyists efforts by the public effectively reduces the chances of a party that tolerates corruption in its ranks to stay in power for a longer period of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When the Demonocrats become as corrept and â€˜do nothingâ€™ as the last six years let the voters make a change. There are some good signs.&#8221;</p>
<p>Indeed! I agree, the highly estimable enhanced scrutiny of lobbyists efforts by the public effectively reduces the chances of a party that tolerates corruption in its ranks to stay in power for a longer period of time.</p>
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