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		<title>By: kritter</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10571/what-a-drag-it-is-getting-old/comment-page-1/#comment-47986</link>
		<dc:creator>kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim S- Larry Lindsay , who worked in the Treasury Dept was fired for suggesting what he thought would be the true cost of the war. It turns out his estimate was too &lt;strong&gt;conservative.&lt;/strong&gt;

I&#039;m not a conservative, but I do believe in a strong military, as long as it is always used as a last resort, and used only for tasks that they are trained to do.

I don&#039;t believe that is what happened in Iraq. I think the handwriting was on the wall back in 1998, when members of the PNAC sent a letter to President Clinton, urging regime change in Iraq. Among the signees? Jeb Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney and Paul Wolfowitz. 9/11 was just the excuse, which is why they tried to get the intelligence committee to tie Iraq in with 9/11. The military has been used in Iraq for nation-building, a task for which they are very poorly trained.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim S- Larry Lindsay , who worked in the Treasury Dept was fired for suggesting what he thought would be the true cost of the war. It turns out his estimate was too <strong>conservative.</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a conservative, but I do believe in a strong military, as long as it is always used as a last resort, and used only for tasks that they are trained to do.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe that is what happened in Iraq. I think the handwriting was on the wall back in 1998, when members of the PNAC sent a letter to President Clinton, urging regime change in Iraq. Among the signees? Jeb Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney and Paul Wolfowitz. 9/11 was just the excuse, which is why they tried to get the intelligence committee to tie Iraq in with 9/11. The military has been used in Iraq for nation-building, a task for which they are very poorly trained.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Satterfield</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10571/what-a-drag-it-is-getting-old/comment-page-1/#comment-47756</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Satterfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 19:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But don&#039;t you remember how much we were reassured by all of the President&#039;s people that those who claimed the war would cost as much as $200 billion were just completely incorrect? Actually the idea was floated if I recall correctly...and promptly shot down by every Republican politician in sight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But don&#8217;t you remember how much we were reassured by all of the President&#8217;s people that those who claimed the war would cost as much as $200 billion were just completely incorrect? Actually the idea was floated if I recall correctly&#8230;and promptly shot down by every Republican politician in sight.</p>
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		<title>By: thegameiam</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10571/what-a-drag-it-is-getting-old/comment-page-1/#comment-47750</link>
		<dc:creator>thegameiam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 19:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a Republican, and tend toward the Conservative side.  I am a huge believer in balanced budgets, and the current administration has been a significant letdown in that regard.  (Mind you, not that I think that the previous administration was better: the Clintonian surplusses were fueled by the Internet bubble, which itself was inherently a Ponzi scheme of escalating fraud.  It would have collapsed eventually no matter who won in 2000).

I don&#039;t mind paying for the military one bit - the US military is important for advancing and protecting US interests around the world, and that&#039;s expensive.  I also would not mind a specific &quot;war tax&quot; which could help to fund this.  I am surprised that no one on either side of the aisle has thought of that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Republican, and tend toward the Conservative side.  I am a huge believer in balanced budgets, and the current administration has been a significant letdown in that regard.  (Mind you, not that I think that the previous administration was better: the Clintonian surplusses were fueled by the Internet bubble, which itself was inherently a Ponzi scheme of escalating fraud.  It would have collapsed eventually no matter who won in 2000).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mind paying for the military one bit &#8211; the US military is important for advancing and protecting US interests around the world, and that&#8217;s expensive.  I also would not mind a specific &#8220;war tax&#8221; which could help to fund this.  I am surprised that no one on either side of the aisle has thought of that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kritter</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10571/what-a-drag-it-is-getting-old/comment-page-1/#comment-47743</link>
		<dc:creator>kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I was under the distinct impression that a lot of Conservative Republicans also aren&#039;t too crazy about President Bush right now. Conservative ideology &lt;strong&gt;does&lt;/strong&gt; preach balanced budgets, not monumental debt. And I don&#039;t think they are crazy about paying for Bush&#039;s war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I was under the distinct impression that a lot of Conservative Republicans also aren&#8217;t too crazy about President Bush right now. Conservative ideology <strong>does</strong> preach balanced budgets, not monumental debt. And I don&#8217;t think they are crazy about paying for Bush&#8217;s war.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Satterfield</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10571/what-a-drag-it-is-getting-old/comment-page-1/#comment-47741</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Satterfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many of those who pass for conservative Republicans now have a hard time distinguishing between Communism, socialism and a belief that government social programs are necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of those who pass for conservative Republicans now have a hard time distinguishing between Communism, socialism and a belief that government social programs are necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: thegameiam</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10571/what-a-drag-it-is-getting-old/comment-page-1/#comment-47733</link>
		<dc:creator>thegameiam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are joking, I presume, when you said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Though I canâ€™t yet prove it, I think they have found something to stand for, with or without the prodding of prior generations, namely: sanity, fairness, and balance between the divisive extremes that have defined their predecessors. And thatâ€™s why, I think, their heroes are frequently named Clinton and Schwarzenegger and Giuliani, rather than Hoffman and Leary and Fonda.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Perhaps you hadn&#039;t heard about &lt;a href=&quot;http://thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/012507/protesters.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the spraypainting of The Capitol&lt;/a&gt;?  

I live in DC, and I occasionally suffer through the various marches and protests of all stripes.  This particular issue (anti-war protests) gathers folks with all kinds of signs (including lots of ANSWER and other Socialist groups) who seem to only agree on the fact that they don&#039;t like President Bush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are joking, I presume, when you said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Though I canâ€™t yet prove it, I think they have found something to stand for, with or without the prodding of prior generations, namely: sanity, fairness, and balance between the divisive extremes that have defined their predecessors. And thatâ€™s why, I think, their heroes are frequently named Clinton and Schwarzenegger and Giuliani, rather than Hoffman and Leary and Fonda.</p></blockquote>
<p>Perhaps you hadn&#8217;t heard about <a href="http://thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/012507/protesters.html" rel="nofollow">the spraypainting of The Capitol</a>?  </p>
<p>I live in DC, and I occasionally suffer through the various marches and protests of all stripes.  This particular issue (anti-war protests) gathers folks with all kinds of signs (including lots of ANSWER and other Socialist groups) who seem to only agree on the fact that they don&#8217;t like President Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: Vietnam - Vietnam &#187; Our Intentions Were Noble in Vietnam (by: Jeff Lukens)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vietnam - Vietnam &#187; Our Intentions Were Noble in Vietnam (by: Jeff Lukens)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And naturally, many of their fans, who once protested the Vietnam War, have aged right along with them, as freelancer Jack Langer illustrates, with a wink and a nod, in his post about last weekend s Iraq war protests, &#8230; &#8211; Read More &#8211; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] And naturally, many of their fans, who once protested the Vietnam War, have aged right along with them, as freelancer Jack Langer illustrates, with a wink and a nod, in his post about last weekend s Iraq war protests, &#8230; &#8211; Read More &#8211; [...]</p>
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