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	<title>Comments on: Saudi Arabia Paper: How America&#8217;s Conflict With Iran Will Begin</title>
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		<title>By: Webloggin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Webloggin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 15:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Oil Pressure...&lt;/strong&gt;

Saudis are behind an intentional effort to drive down oil prices with the intent of breaking the Iranian economy.

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<p>Saudis are behind an intentional effort to drive down oil prices with the intent of breaking the Iranian economy.</p>
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		<title>By: m</title>
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		<dc:creator>m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 08:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get it...what exactly is the threat from Iran? Exactly how does it damage the US? 

And if you have answers to that, what makes you think a war will solve any of the issues?

They will cut of oil? Bug frickinâ€™ deal. America can rise to the situation and make itself work. And the truth is, there is plenty of oil on the market to buy. So Iran is a danger to the citizens of the USA becauseâ€¦(they say silly outlandish threats?) 

Is Iran prepared to take over Texas? Have they threatened the US any more then we have threatened them? When our leader says on international TV that the us will actively support regime change in their country, is that not a threat? 

So the USA can threaten any country, invade any country, arrest and hold anyone with no charges, send missiles to kill anyone anywhere we decide, and Iran is the threat?

Are you frickin&#039; serious? The Iranians are after Topeka? Madison? They want to destroy Hill-billy-hollow?

What a paranoid, pathetic response to the difficulties of living in the world. George Washington warned us well, Stay our of foreign entanglements. And here we are thinking we need to run the world, while we can&#039;t even run the schools in this country or provide medical insurance. But we can decide who to invade and kill because I guess, we just know best...kind of like father.

When Iran invades this country or lands ships in England, or tries to take down Germany, or sends a B1-Bomber to attack New York, then letâ€™s talk war. But them taking an active interest (even if we donâ€™t like it) in their next door neighbor country (which we cultivated to keep them in lineâ€¦real smart huh?) and the majority of that population is tied to Iran, might you think there is no way to stop that? I would guess, and here I am out on crazy street again, that the countries closer to Iraq then 12,000 miles might be in a better spot to actually get involved there. One of the many dumb ass reasons not to invade countries 12,000 miles awayâ€¦.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get it&#8230;what exactly is the threat from Iran? Exactly how does it damage the US? </p>
<p>And if you have answers to that, what makes you think a war will solve any of the issues?</p>
<p>They will cut of oil? Bug frickinâ€™ deal. America can rise to the situation and make itself work. And the truth is, there is plenty of oil on the market to buy. So Iran is a danger to the citizens of the USA becauseâ€¦(they say silly outlandish threats?) </p>
<p>Is Iran prepared to take over Texas? Have they threatened the US any more then we have threatened them? When our leader says on international TV that the us will actively support regime change in their country, is that not a threat? </p>
<p>So the USA can threaten any country, invade any country, arrest and hold anyone with no charges, send missiles to kill anyone anywhere we decide, and Iran is the threat?</p>
<p>Are you frickin&#8217; serious? The Iranians are after Topeka? Madison? They want to destroy Hill-billy-hollow?</p>
<p>What a paranoid, pathetic response to the difficulties of living in the world. George Washington warned us well, Stay our of foreign entanglements. And here we are thinking we need to run the world, while we can&#8217;t even run the schools in this country or provide medical insurance. But we can decide who to invade and kill because I guess, we just know best&#8230;kind of like father.</p>
<p>When Iran invades this country or lands ships in England, or tries to take down Germany, or sends a B1-Bomber to attack New York, then letâ€™s talk war. But them taking an active interest (even if we donâ€™t like it) in their next door neighbor country (which we cultivated to keep them in lineâ€¦real smart huh?) and the majority of that population is tied to Iran, might you think there is no way to stop that? I would guess, and here I am out on crazy street again, that the countries closer to Iraq then 12,000 miles might be in a better spot to actually get involved there. One of the many dumb ass reasons not to invade countries 12,000 miles awayâ€¦.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarcasm doesn&#039;t get debates going either upinsmoke, give us something meaty that involves that grey matter above both your tongue and cheek.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarcasm doesn&#8217;t get debates going either upinsmoke, give us something meaty that involves that grey matter above both your tongue and cheek.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarcasm doesn&#039;t get debates going either upinsmoke, give us something meety that involves that grey matter above both your tongue and cheek.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarcasm doesn&#8217;t get debates going either upinsmoke, give us something meety that involves that grey matter above both your tongue and cheek.</p>
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		<title>By: Upinsmoke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Upinsmoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 20:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys!

You take everything so serious.  This is why there can be no intellectual debate here.  I said that with tongue so firmly planted in cheek that Im still trying to get it back in place and what is the response.

Oh yeah right your an idiot.

Why debate.  X....believes X and he aint gonna change 
Y....Believes Y and he aint gonna change.

I personally just use sarcasm because nothing anyone says is listened to, digested and thoughfully hashed out.  Its jump up and start screaming.

I give up.  You guys have no sense of humor and I guess my sense of humor is like a turd in a fish bowl over here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys!</p>
<p>You take everything so serious.  This is why there can be no intellectual debate here.  I said that with tongue so firmly planted in cheek that Im still trying to get it back in place and what is the response.</p>
<p>Oh yeah right your an idiot.</p>
<p>Why debate.  X&#8230;.believes X and he aint gonna change<br />
Y&#8230;.Believes Y and he aint gonna change.</p>
<p>I personally just use sarcasm because nothing anyone says is listened to, digested and thoughfully hashed out.  Its jump up and start screaming.</p>
<p>I give up.  You guys have no sense of humor and I guess my sense of humor is like a turd in a fish bowl over here.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 18:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rudi,
I never said that we should trust the people who badly miscalculated on Iraq. But it&#039;s the same old reflex that causes people to feel that we should look at someone whose policies have failed and do the opposite. If insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, then imbecility is assuming that doing the opposite is the only way to get the desired results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rudi,<br />
I never said that we should trust the people who badly miscalculated on Iraq. But it&#8217;s the same old reflex that causes people to feel that we should look at someone whose policies have failed and do the opposite. If insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, then imbecility is assuming that doing the opposite is the only way to get the desired results.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CS The neocons wouldn&#039;t be dismissed if Iraq was now a Western style democracy. Sh**, I would trumpet their policies if the ME was transformed. Tell me how &#039;right on&#039; Kristol, Wolfie and Gafney were on this . An enormus success, oil will pay for the war, we will greeted as liberators, flowers and chocalate.
I guess the FTD man delivers from Tehran.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CS The neocons wouldn&#8217;t be dismissed if Iraq was now a Western style democracy. Sh**, I would trumpet their policies if the ME was transformed. Tell me how &#8216;right on&#8217; Kristol, Wolfie and Gafney were on this . An enormus success, oil will pay for the war, we will greeted as liberators, flowers and chocalate.<br />
I guess the FTD man delivers from Tehran&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that sootytern and upinsmoke are both examples of black and white thinking (at opposite ends). Sootytern feels that neocons and GWB are evil warmongers, so he seems to feel that nothing that is consistent with neocon thought can be true or trusted. Upinsmoke, on the other hand, feels that there are real threats to US security that are not taken seriously by liberals, therefore we have to trust the neocons to deal with these things.

Fortunately there is a world of gray in between these two extremes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that sootytern and upinsmoke are both examples of black and white thinking (at opposite ends). Sootytern feels that neocons and GWB are evil warmongers, so he seems to feel that nothing that is consistent with neocon thought can be true or trusted. Upinsmoke, on the other hand, feels that there are real threats to US security that are not taken seriously by liberals, therefore we have to trust the neocons to deal with these things.</p>
<p>Fortunately there is a world of gray in between these two extremes.</p>
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		<title>By: James Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Neocons are the only one with enough balls to fight for anything. The liberals just want to hide and hope it goes away. Or better yet trust France to run the world.&quot;

Could you cite some sources on that? Or even better, maybe you should go post somewhere else. France jokes are so 2003.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Neocons are the only one with enough balls to fight for anything. The liberals just want to hide and hope it goes away. Or better yet trust France to run the world.&#8221;</p>
<p>Could you cite some sources on that? Or even better, maybe you should go post somewhere else. France jokes are so 2003.</p>
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		<title>By: gal</title>
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		<dc:creator>gal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yes, the old &quot;only two kinds of people in the world&quot; idea... 

*eyeroll*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes, the old &#8220;only two kinds of people in the world&#8221; idea&#8230; </p>
<p>*eyeroll*</p>
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		<title>By: Upinsmoke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Upinsmoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Neocons are the only one with enough balls to fight for anything.  The liberals just want to hide and hope it goes away.  Or better yet trust France to run the world.

Hahahaha.  I guess its come down to NEOCONS or LIBERAlS running the world.  Who do you trust. Neocons want to fight and make the world safer for your children with their conspiratorial delusional puppet master Israel pulling the strings.  OR......OR you can go with the LIBERALS who want to smoke dope, drink beer and Hope their kids turn out gay.

The argument is starting to repeat one I saw taking place in the 60&#039;s.

I mean after all isnt this the only two choices we have.?

Huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Neocons are the only one with enough balls to fight for anything.  The liberals just want to hide and hope it goes away.  Or better yet trust France to run the world.</p>
<p>Hahahaha.  I guess its come down to NEOCONS or LIBERAlS running the world.  Who do you trust. Neocons want to fight and make the world safer for your children with their conspiratorial delusional puppet master Israel pulling the strings.  OR&#8230;&#8230;OR you can go with the LIBERALS who want to smoke dope, drink beer and Hope their kids turn out gay.</p>
<p>The argument is starting to repeat one I saw taking place in the 60&#8242;s.</p>
<p>I mean after all isnt this the only two choices we have.?</p>
<p>Huh?</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;A good many people are buying into the delusional thinking of the neocons even though they know they are delusional.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Who are you referring to here, sootytern?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>A good many people are buying into the delusional thinking of the neocons even though they know they are delusional.</p></blockquote>
<p>Who are you referring to here, sootytern?</p>
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		<title>By: sootytern</title>
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		<dc:creator>sootytern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fantasy world of George W Bush, et alia, influences the world of reality (as I said in another post above) and, I think, is beginning to strongly color the thinking of even realistic people.  A good many people are buying into the delusional thinking of the neocons even though they know they are delusional.  It boggles my mind.  Do we really, really want to throw nitroglycerin (not gasoline-it is too tame)
onto the fire by starting a war with Iran.  Good Lord!!! I hope not.  Please save us from ourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fantasy world of George W Bush, et alia, influences the world of reality (as I said in another post above) and, I think, is beginning to strongly color the thinking of even realistic people.  A good many people are buying into the delusional thinking of the neocons even though they know they are delusional.  It boggles my mind.  Do we really, really want to throw nitroglycerin (not gasoline-it is too tame)<br />
onto the fire by starting a war with Iran.  Good Lord!!! I hope not.  Please save us from ourselves.</p>
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