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		<title>By: Michael P.F. van der GaliÃ«n</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10415/guest-voice-governor-schwarzeneggers-office-on-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-55759</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael P.F. van der GaliÃ«n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Guest Voice: Governor Schwarzeneggerâ€™s Office on Health&#160;Care...&lt;/strong&gt;

I applaud Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger for taking the lead in the health care reform debate by introducing a new health care plan for the State of California.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Guest Voice: Governor Schwarzeneggerâ€™s Office on Health&nbsp;Care&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I applaud Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger for taking the lead in the health care reform debate by introducing a new health care plan for the State of California.<br />
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		<title>By: etee's Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>etee's Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 19:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Health Care:  Taming the Beast...&lt;/strong&gt;

There is a saying that goes something like this:
If you are assigned the task of boiling the ocean, the only way to accomplish it is to boil one cup at a time.
Or something like that, anyway.
&quot;Boiling the ocean&quot; (and its kin &quot;eating an elephant&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Health Care:  Taming the Beast&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>There is a saying that goes something like this:<br />
If you are assigned the task of boiling the ocean, the only way to accomplish it is to boil one cup at a time.<br />
Or something like that, anyway.<br />
&#8220;Boiling the ocean&#8221; (and its kin &#8220;eating an elephant&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Upinsmoke</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10415/guest-voice-governor-schwarzeneggers-office-on-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-46115</link>
		<dc:creator>Upinsmoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure feel sorry for the employees of those companies that have 11 employees.  I can see a whole lotta people losing their job the day this program starts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure feel sorry for the employees of those companies that have 11 employees.  I can see a whole lotta people losing their job the day this program starts.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 03:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I respect the Governors effort to try and reconcile the aims of a progressive society by embracing free market mechanics.&quot;

Which is, of course, why it will fail miserably. Look at Anna&#039;s post. Would you like to know what the greatest accomplishment of the private health insurance system is? Shafting the doctors and hospitals by withholding their money for months on end. They count on a behavior that would earn their customers the right to be dropped like hot potatoes in order to boost their bottom lines by allowing them to hang on to funds they have no right to. All of these articles about the bold steps states are making cite Missouri as a state planning on expanding their system? Really? Is that a comparison with the before or after of Governor Blunt and his Republican allies cutting over 90,000 people out of the Medicaid system and cutting benefits for those who were still in the system?

Not one of these amazing plans you members of the First Church of Free Market are so thrilled about has a single original idea that stands a chance of really fixing a thing. It&#039;s all BS to be able to claim something is being done while it all really comes down to financial juggling.

Until everyone can work together to come up with massive changes to the system at all phases, putting the welfare of the citizens of this country ahead of their own interests nothing except baby steps towards a true solution will be made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I respect the Governors effort to try and reconcile the aims of a progressive society by embracing free market mechanics.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which is, of course, why it will fail miserably. Look at Anna&#8217;s post. Would you like to know what the greatest accomplishment of the private health insurance system is? Shafting the doctors and hospitals by withholding their money for months on end. They count on a behavior that would earn their customers the right to be dropped like hot potatoes in order to boost their bottom lines by allowing them to hang on to funds they have no right to. All of these articles about the bold steps states are making cite Missouri as a state planning on expanding their system? Really? Is that a comparison with the before or after of Governor Blunt and his Republican allies cutting over 90,000 people out of the Medicaid system and cutting benefits for those who were still in the system?</p>
<p>Not one of these amazing plans you members of the First Church of Free Market are so thrilled about has a single original idea that stands a chance of really fixing a thing. It&#8217;s all BS to be able to claim something is being done while it all really comes down to financial juggling.</p>
<p>Until everyone can work together to come up with massive changes to the system at all phases, putting the welfare of the citizens of this country ahead of their own interests nothing except baby steps towards a true solution will be made.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;My husband has given a lot to the community, many times just writing off the bills for patients who can not afford to pay. He hardly earns anything anymore, and yet you are happy to add on to his tax burden. Every year, more of his colleagues are either leaving the state or retiring altogether. He has hung on because no one will be left to take care of our community.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And it&#039;s going to get worse and worse if they don&#039;t do something to alter the status quo.

I&#039;m sure the proposal isn&#039;t perfect, but I think it&#039;s probably worth trying and tweaking.  We can&#039;t afford to continue on the present course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>My husband has given a lot to the community, many times just writing off the bills for patients who can not afford to pay. He hardly earns anything anymore, and yet you are happy to add on to his tax burden. Every year, more of his colleagues are either leaving the state or retiring altogether. He has hung on because no one will be left to take care of our community.</p></blockquote>
<p>And it&#8217;s going to get worse and worse if they don&#8217;t do something to alter the status quo.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure the proposal isn&#8217;t perfect, but I think it&#8217;s probably worth trying and tweaking.  We can&#8217;t afford to continue on the present course.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m married to a physician, and when we watched the news where the governor described his health care plan, my husband said, &quot;That&#039;s it.  I&#039;m quitting.&quot;  

Why?  Because you people are happy to tax the doctors 2% of their REVENUE to finance this program.  On top of all the restrictive and intrusive regulations imposed by both state and federal government, on top of the low reimbursement rates by insurance companies, Medicare and Medi-Cal, you want the doctors to surrender 2% of their revenue to the government.  

And let&#039;s not fool ourselves: a 20% increase in Medi-Cal rates would still amount to less than what Medicare pays, which already hardly pays anything at all.

My husband has given a lot to the community, many times just writing off the bills for patients who can not afford to pay.  He hardly earns anything anymore, and yet you are happy to add on to his tax burden.  Every year, more of his colleagues are either leaving the state or retiring altogether.  He has hung on because no one will be left to take care of our community.

But congratulations, Mr. Schwarzenegger.  You&#039;ve just accomplished what I thought was impossible: make my husband decide to quit the profession he used to love.  I hope you find enough health care providers to keep your idiotic proposal running.  

As for us, we&#039;re leaving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m married to a physician, and when we watched the news where the governor described his health care plan, my husband said, &#8220;That&#8217;s it.  I&#8217;m quitting.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Why?  Because you people are happy to tax the doctors 2% of their REVENUE to finance this program.  On top of all the restrictive and intrusive regulations imposed by both state and federal government, on top of the low reimbursement rates by insurance companies, Medicare and Medi-Cal, you want the doctors to surrender 2% of their revenue to the government.  </p>
<p>And let&#8217;s not fool ourselves: a 20% increase in Medi-Cal rates would still amount to less than what Medicare pays, which already hardly pays anything at all.</p>
<p>My husband has given a lot to the community, many times just writing off the bills for patients who can not afford to pay.  He hardly earns anything anymore, and yet you are happy to add on to his tax burden.  Every year, more of his colleagues are either leaving the state or retiring altogether.  He has hung on because no one will be left to take care of our community.</p>
<p>But congratulations, Mr. Schwarzenegger.  You&#8217;ve just accomplished what I thought was impossible: make my husband decide to quit the profession he used to love.  I hope you find enough health care providers to keep your idiotic proposal running.  </p>
<p>As for us, we&#8217;re leaving.</p>
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		<title>By: Leopold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leopold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039; time for good health insurance everybody needs it.
Hopefully this time we will win.
Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217; time for good health insurance everybody needs it.<br />
Hopefully this time we will win.<br />
Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Abel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Abel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Polimom on this one; ditto what she said.  In fact, this angle -- of the states often being the incubators for policy that the feds eventually emulate -- was the subject of a recent story in The Economist, the lead of which references Schwarzenegger&#039;s proposal.  Anyone interested should check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.economist.com/world/na/displaystory.cfm?story_id=8522104&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;that story&lt;/a&gt;.  Furthermore, the state-level focus on this topic is one of &lt;a href=&quot;http://centralsanity.blogspot.com/2007/01/universal-healthcare-four-reasons-why.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the four reasons&lt;/a&gt; why I personally believe universal healthcare will finally (and hopefully sooner than later) be a reality in this country.  Go get &#039;em, Arnold!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Polimom on this one; ditto what she said.  In fact, this angle &#8212; of the states often being the incubators for policy that the feds eventually emulate &#8212; was the subject of a recent story in The Economist, the lead of which references Schwarzenegger&#8217;s proposal.  Anyone interested should check out <a href="http://www.economist.com/world/na/displaystory.cfm?story_id=8522104" rel="nofollow">that story</a>.  Furthermore, the state-level focus on this topic is one of <a href="http://centralsanity.blogspot.com/2007/01/universal-healthcare-four-reasons-why.html" rel="nofollow">the four reasons</a> why I personally believe universal healthcare will finally (and hopefully sooner than later) be a reality in this country.  Go get &#8216;em, Arnold!</p>
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		<title>By: Polimom Says &#187; An anti-federalism trap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polimom Says &#187; An anti-federalism trap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Polimom&#8217;s excited by the innovative health care proposals coming from various states. From Massachussetts to Maryland to California, we&#8217;re finally seeing creative, bipartisan, locally-focused attempts to engage with the health care monster. While there are devils and details and complicated flaws in these hatchling ideas, such state-level proposals are precisely the approach I&#8217;ve been hoping to see. Furthermore, and just as importantly, their authors are bringing the discussion to the people, as this morning&#8217;s guest post at The Moderate Voice demonstrates: Under the Governorâ€™s proposal, all Californians must have a minimum level of insurance to ensure that those with insurance no longer pay for the uninsured. Individuals will be responsible for securing health coverage for themselves and their children and contributing to paying for their coverage. Government will return over $4 billion to doctors and hospitals by increasing federal reimbursement for Medi-Cal. The state will also expand Medi-Cal to poor adults and Healthy Families to children in families earning less than $60,000 annually. Employers with 10 or more employees who choose not to offer health coverage will contribute four percent of social security payroll toward the cost of employeesâ€™ health coverage. Companies with fewer than 10 employeesâ€”a full 80 percent of businesses in Californiaâ€”are exempt. The four percent fee will discourage employers from dropping their health care coverage in light of the stateâ€™s program. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Polimom&#8217;s excited by the innovative health care proposals coming from various states. From Massachussetts to Maryland to California, we&#8217;re finally seeing creative, bipartisan, locally-focused attempts to engage with the health care monster. While there are devils and details and complicated flaws in these hatchling ideas, such state-level proposals are precisely the approach I&#8217;ve been hoping to see. Furthermore, and just as importantly, their authors are bringing the discussion to the people, as this morning&#8217;s guest post at The Moderate Voice demonstrates: Under the Governorâ€™s proposal, all Californians must have a minimum level of insurance to ensure that those with insurance no longer pay for the uninsured. Individuals will be responsible for securing health coverage for themselves and their children and contributing to paying for their coverage. Government will return over $4 billion to doctors and hospitals by increasing federal reimbursement for Medi-Cal. The state will also expand Medi-Cal to poor adults and Healthy Families to children in families earning less than $60,000 annually. Employers with 10 or more employees who choose not to offer health coverage will contribute four percent of social security payroll toward the cost of employeesâ€™ health coverage. Companies with fewer than 10 employeesâ€”a full 80 percent of businesses in Californiaâ€”are exempt. The four percent fee will discourage employers from dropping their health care coverage in light of the stateâ€™s program. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One criticism that I&#039;ve seen is that the 4% payroll tax that would be levied on small businesses that choose not to provide health insurance might actually be a smaller figure than the cost of providing health insurance. Isn&#039;t it then providing a &lt;em&gt;disincentive&lt;/em&gt; for these businesses to provide insurance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One criticism that I&#8217;ve seen is that the 4% payroll tax that would be levied on small businesses that choose not to provide health insurance might actually be a smaller figure than the cost of providing health insurance. Isn&#8217;t it then providing a <em>disincentive</em> for these businesses to provide insurance?</p>
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		<title>By: Lynx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I aplaud any effort done in order to make healthcare, a right as fundamental as education, available to all. I do have a question though. Does the plan conteplate safeguards to make sure companies don&#039;t reap special comercial gains from tax dollars? Health care providers will be being given tax payer money in order to support this system. In Europe, most doctors and hospitals are government owned and operated anyway, so it&#039;s not a problem, but in the US, this is government giving tax money to private companies, much like Blackwell and Halliburton. We know that it&#039;s not uncommon for companies to try to cheat the taxpayer out of money, so how does the plan address this posibility?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I aplaud any effort done in order to make healthcare, a right as fundamental as education, available to all. I do have a question though. Does the plan conteplate safeguards to make sure companies don&#8217;t reap special comercial gains from tax dollars? Health care providers will be being given tax payer money in order to support this system. In Europe, most doctors and hospitals are government owned and operated anyway, so it&#8217;s not a problem, but in the US, this is government giving tax money to private companies, much like Blackwell and Halliburton. We know that it&#8217;s not uncommon for companies to try to cheat the taxpayer out of money, so how does the plan address this posibility?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Silver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Silver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am inspired by the Governor&#039;s audacity and creativity to distribute the costs and responsibility for the program as broadly as possible.
It is not a new tax as much as it is a reconceptualized and redistributed tax. I respect the Governors effort to try and reconcile the aims of a progressive society by embracing free market mechanics.
I expect the health care costs per person in California to drop to reflect the greater efficiency of this system.

My only request is that the burden on businesses be designed to gradually shift to the individual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am inspired by the Governor&#8217;s audacity and creativity to distribute the costs and responsibility for the program as broadly as possible.<br />
It is not a new tax as much as it is a reconceptualized and redistributed tax. I respect the Governors effort to try and reconcile the aims of a progressive society by embracing free market mechanics.<br />
I expect the health care costs per person in California to drop to reflect the greater efficiency of this system.</p>
<p>My only request is that the burden on businesses be designed to gradually shift to the individual.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael P.F. van der Galien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael P.F. van der Galien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 12:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Guest Voice: Governor SchwarzeneggerÂ’s Office on Health Care ...&lt;/strong&gt;

I applaud Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger for taking the lead in the health care reform debate by introducing a new health care plan for the State of California....</description>
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<p>I applaud Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger for taking the lead in the health care reform debate by introducing a new health care plan for the State of California&#8230;.</p>
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