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		<title>By: Daniel CAZ Greenberg</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10399/confident-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-45631</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel CAZ Greenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>White? After Labor Day?</description>
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		<title>By: Kim Ritter</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10399/confident-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-45611</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Ritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Superdestroyer-I honestly think your analysis is a bit simplistic. Remember Nixon&#039;s Southern Strategy? The Dixiecrats swarmed to the Republican Party en masse, in reaction to LBJ&#039;s civil rights agenda. The Republican Party has never been able to regain its footing with minorities ever since. 

Just last week a Republican legislator Virginia proclaimed that blacks should just &quot;get over slavery&quot;, refusing to apologize for the state&#039;s long history as a slave state. Many of the Republican-led southern states clung to the emotional issue of keeping the Confederate flag flying at their statehouses. That perspective is what keeps the GOP from making inroads with minorities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Superdestroyer-I honestly think your analysis is a bit simplistic. Remember Nixon&#8217;s Southern Strategy? The Dixiecrats swarmed to the Republican Party en masse, in reaction to LBJ&#8217;s civil rights agenda. The Republican Party has never been able to regain its footing with minorities ever since. </p>
<p>Just last week a Republican legislator Virginia proclaimed that blacks should just &#8220;get over slavery&#8221;, refusing to apologize for the state&#8217;s long history as a slave state. Many of the Republican-led southern states clung to the emotional issue of keeping the Confederate flag flying at their statehouses. That perspective is what keeps the GOP from making inroads with minorities.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael van der Galien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael van der Galien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MinorRipper: post has been updated with a link to the interesting article at your blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MinorRipper: post has been updated with a link to the interesting article at your blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10399/confident-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-45605</link>
		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think that once she comes closer to the Presidency and especially once she becomes President, the diversity will increase.&quot;

I alÃ¶ready said I believe she wouldn&#039;t be a bad president. But it&#039;s a long and winding road to get back into the White House. It&#039;s much too early to speculate. Remember when Dean was the front runner and new favorite? Didn&#039;t really help him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think that once she comes closer to the Presidency and especially once she becomes President, the diversity will increase.&#8221;</p>
<p>I alÃ¶ready said I believe she wouldn&#8217;t be a bad president. But it&#8217;s a long and winding road to get back into the White House. It&#8217;s much too early to speculate. Remember when Dean was the front runner and new favorite? Didn&#8217;t really help him.</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10399/confident-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-45603</link>
		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, 

The Democrats have 90% support of the African-American community because they give lip service to things like Affirmative-Action, minority set aside contracts, and quotas on college admission, public sector hiring, and public school programs. The Democrats have routinely criticized anyone who challenges such government mandated diversity by calling them racist.  

Yet, when the families, children, or personal success of such Democrats as Senator Clinton is involved, she gets to totally ignore the idea of diversity and send her children to elite, all white private schools, live in an elite, all white private neighborhood, and fill her staff with elite, Ivy league educated, whites. 

I see it as a failure of personal leadership.  Either shut up about diversity or make a &quot;true&quot; commitment to diversity by asking your own family to experience the full effect of government mandated raced based programs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, </p>
<p>The Democrats have 90% support of the African-American community because they give lip service to things like Affirmative-Action, minority set aside contracts, and quotas on college admission, public sector hiring, and public school programs. The Democrats have routinely criticized anyone who challenges such government mandated diversity by calling them racist.  </p>
<p>Yet, when the families, children, or personal success of such Democrats as Senator Clinton is involved, she gets to totally ignore the idea of diversity and send her children to elite, all white private schools, live in an elite, all white private neighborhood, and fill her staff with elite, Ivy league educated, whites. </p>
<p>I see it as a failure of personal leadership.  Either shut up about diversity or make a &#8220;true&#8221; commitment to diversity by asking your own family to experience the full effect of government mandated raced based programs.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael van der Galien</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10399/confident-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-45595</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael van der Galien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would not worry about &#039;diversity&#039;... I think that once she comes closer to the Presidency and especially once she becomes President, the diversity will increase. 

On the other hand, I&#039;m quite race-neutral: I don&#039;t care whether one is black, yellow, red, white or whatever... I care about whether or not they&#039;re good at what they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would not worry about &#8216;diversity&#8217;&#8230; I think that once she comes closer to the Presidency and especially once she becomes President, the diversity will increase. </p>
<p>On the other hand, I&#8217;m quite race-neutral: I don&#8217;t care whether one is black, yellow, red, white or whatever&#8230; I care about whether or not they&#8217;re good at what they do.</p>
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		<title>By: MinorRipper</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10399/confident-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-45593</link>
		<dc:creator>MinorRipper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iraq will be the deciding factor among the Democratic candidates in 2008, and Hillary was flat wrong on the subject.  More and more it looks like it will be Al Gore&#039;s election to lose, please see http://minor-ripper.blogspot.com/2006/12/why-al-gore-will-vanquish-hillary.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iraq will be the deciding factor among the Democratic candidates in 2008, and Hillary was flat wrong on the subject.  More and more it looks like it will be Al Gore&#8217;s election to lose, please see <a href="http://minor-ripper.blogspot.com/2006/12/why-al-gore-will-vanquish-hillary.html" rel="nofollow">http://minor-ripper.blogspot.com/2006/12/why-al-gore-will-vanquish-hillary.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Prez</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10399/confident-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-45583</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Prez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s the pantsuit I tell ya!  heheh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the pantsuit I tell ya!  heheh</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10399/confident-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-45575</link>
		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>superDD, pls check &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200611/green-hillary/1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this interesting report&lt;/a&gt; in the Atlantic about Hillary and her presdiential ambitions. Looks like she made some progress in making friends since the White House. But you&#039;re absolutely correct in that her advisors may ruin her campaign. Those folks are simply too disconnected from the grassroots. And the official Dem candidate will need the roots&#039; full support to win, imho this is the lesson from the 06 campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>superDD, pls check <a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200611/green-hillary/1" rel="nofollow">this interesting report</a> in the Atlantic about Hillary and her presdiential ambitions. Looks like she made some progress in making friends since the White House. But you&#8217;re absolutely correct in that her advisors may ruin her campaign. Those folks are simply too disconnected from the grassroots. And the official Dem candidate will need the roots&#8217; full support to win, imho this is the lesson from the 06 campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10399/confident-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-45569</link>
		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The next president is more likely Senator Clinton than anyone else. 

Former VP Gore is damaged goods, has horrible political instincts, and is not media savy.  He is second generations Washington, DC establish, prep school product and he never lets you forget that he is. 

Senator Obama is nothing more than Dick Durbin in (partial) black face.  Since I do not consider Dick Durbin a potential president, I do not understand why everyone is so excited about Senator Obama. 

On the other hand, Senator Clinton probably has more enemies in DC than anyone else.  She burned many bridges when she was the first lady.  There was an article in yesterday&#039;s Washington Post about her inner circle of advisors.  She definitely fails in the diversity department.  Most of her advisors are rich, elite, Ivy league types with a large number of Jews but no Hispanics or Asians. The lone black person&#039;s job is to generate support in the black community. 

It would be nice is a single politician demonstrated the least bit of personal leadership instead of the &quot;do as I say, not as I do&quot; leadership that dominates Washington, DC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The next president is more likely Senator Clinton than anyone else. </p>
<p>Former VP Gore is damaged goods, has horrible political instincts, and is not media savy.  He is second generations Washington, DC establish, prep school product and he never lets you forget that he is. </p>
<p>Senator Obama is nothing more than Dick Durbin in (partial) black face.  Since I do not consider Dick Durbin a potential president, I do not understand why everyone is so excited about Senator Obama. </p>
<p>On the other hand, Senator Clinton probably has more enemies in DC than anyone else.  She burned many bridges when she was the first lady.  There was an article in yesterday&#8217;s Washington Post about her inner circle of advisors.  She definitely fails in the diversity department.  Most of her advisors are rich, elite, Ivy league types with a large number of Jews but no Hispanics or Asians. The lone black person&#8217;s job is to generate support in the black community. </p>
<p>It would be nice is a single politician demonstrated the least bit of personal leadership instead of the &#8220;do as I say, not as I do&#8221; leadership that dominates Washington, DC.</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10399/confident-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-45565</link>
		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, the winner takes it all :(
Wonder what you&#039;ll say if Hillary wins the popular vote by some hundred thousand votes (or even more), but loses the electoral college count. After all, a Senator from New York may face some problems winning the south and the Mid West. Endorsing Richardson as VP may be a good idea for her...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the winner takes it all <img src='http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Wonder what you&#8217;ll say if Hillary wins the popular vote by some hundred thousand votes (or even more), but loses the electoral college count. After all, a Senator from New York may face some problems winning the south and the Mid West. Endorsing Richardson as VP may be a good idea for her&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael van der Galien</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10399/confident-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-45560</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael van der Galien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, whatever you think of it... he lost. 

Losing = not becoming President in this situation.

He did not become President.

Hence, he lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, whatever you think of it&#8230; he lost. </p>
<p>Losing = not becoming President in this situation.</p>
<p>He did not become President.</p>
<p>Hence, he lost.</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10399/confident-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-45554</link>
		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;he already lost one election&quot;

I call bullshit! He won by about half a million votes. But those supreme activist judges robbed him of the presidency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;he already lost one election&#8221;</p>
<p>I call bullshit! He won by about half a million votes. But those supreme activist judges robbed him of the presidency.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael van der Galien</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10399/confident-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-45540</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael van der Galien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That being said, Gray, you have to remember... he already lost one election. That quite weakens his position. On the other hand, he has reinvented himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That being said, Gray, you have to remember&#8230; he already lost one election. That quite weakens his position. On the other hand, he has reinvented himself.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael van der Galien</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10399/confident-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-45539</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael van der Galien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O, I might agree with you on Gore&#039;s chances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O, I might agree with you on Gore&#8217;s chances.</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The same can be said about Al Gore. Plus, the man really has a program, is much closer to the grassroots, and showed he is able to implement new policies (without him, it&#039;s questionable if the internet today would be the same). I still hope he will run. Gore/Clinton 2008, that would be a sure win (even though Gore/Edwards, Gore/Clark or Gore/Obama wouldn&#039;t be bad, either).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The same can be said about Al Gore. Plus, the man really has a program, is much closer to the grassroots, and showed he is able to implement new policies (without him, it&#8217;s questionable if the internet today would be the same). I still hope he will run. Gore/Clinton 2008, that would be a sure win (even though Gore/Edwards, Gore/Clark or Gore/Obama wouldn&#8217;t be bad, either).</p>
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		<title>By: Michael van der Galien</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10399/confident-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-45535</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael van der Galien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very simple Gray, she has a lot of experience, she has been in the White House for 8 years, all the world&#039;s leaders know her, she&#039;s got a tremendous team that has been working on this project for years already, she has the support of one of the most popular Presidents in U.S. history, she is very knowledgable on more than just 1 or 2 areas, she knows politics, she is able to work out compromises...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very simple Gray, she has a lot of experience, she has been in the White House for 8 years, all the world&#8217;s leaders know her, she&#8217;s got a tremendous team that has been working on this project for years already, she has the support of one of the most popular Presidents in U.S. history, she is very knowledgable on more than just 1 or 2 areas, she knows politics, she is able to work out compromises&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All in all, some good points, Michael. But I can&#039;t see why you think she would be better on the issues than Obama, Edwards, Clark or even Richardson...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All in all, some good points, Michael. But I can&#8217;t see why you think she would be better on the issues than Obama, Edwards, Clark or even Richardson&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael van der Galien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael van der Galien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gray, yes I agree with you on that. On the other hand, the role of women... finally a female President... 

But, I agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gray, yes I agree with you on that. On the other hand, the role of women&#8230; finally a female President&#8230; </p>
<p>But, I agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hillary as President would immediately improve Americaâ€™s image&quot;
but not as much as President Barack Hussein Obama. He would be a positive signal not only for Europe, but for all the world, that Americans embrace diversity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hillary as President would immediately improve Americaâ€™s image&#8221;<br />
but not as much as President Barack Hussein Obama. He would be a positive signal not only for Europe, but for all the world, that Americans embrace diversity.</p>
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