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		<title>By: Shaun Mullen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun Mullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Jack:&lt;/em&gt;

Great post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Jack:</em></p>
<p>Great post.</p>
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		<title>By: cosmoetica</title>
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		<dc:creator>cosmoetica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe: Jack did not present the sheple argument, you did- which neatly illustrates his point.

BUT, most folk are sheep, lest they wd not continue to vote D&amp;R alone, after decades of unmitigated failure, they wd not continue to go to church despite never getting their wishes granted, nor wd they do most of what they do in life, which is pointless, and mostl shallow.

What I&#039;d like to hear from Jack, though, is what that REAL PLAN is. If there is one, he&#039;s alone in knowing it, or how it could work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe: Jack did not present the sheple argument, you did- which neatly illustrates his point.</p>
<p>BUT, most folk are sheep, lest they wd not continue to vote D&amp;R alone, after decades of unmitigated failure, they wd not continue to go to church despite never getting their wishes granted, nor wd they do most of what they do in life, which is pointless, and mostl shallow.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;d like to hear from Jack, though, is what that REAL PLAN is. If there is one, he&#8217;s alone in knowing it, or how it could work.</p>
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		<title>By: ATCJoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>ATCJoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 07:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack,

This smacks awfully of the &quot;sheeple&quot; argument I&#039;ve seen repeatedly put forth over the last four years or so.  The uninformed public, those who don&#039;t read blogs, I guess, can&#039;t be trusted to make informed decisions - because they don&#039;t read blogs.  Meh.

As for this:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The real plan that underlies the change in tactics has a chance to succeed. Unfortunately, the focus on spin has presented a nonsensical scenario to an American public that is rightly skeptical after so many unrealistic descriptions of the situation in Iraq.

Words and their meanings will come back to haunt those who misuse them.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

I&#039;d submit that the focus on &quot;spin&quot; works both ways - the spin of the left presents to the American public that Iraq is lost, beyond hope, and entirely the fault of the Bush administration, while the spin of the right posits that Iraq is in stasis, within hope, and subject to defeat only because of the nattering of the leftist politicians who once upon a time voted for the IWR, but retreat from it now because progress hasn&#039;t suited their own time line.

Neither is accurate, of course, but if indeed &quot;Words and their meanings will come back to haunt those who misuse them&quot;, I hope the hauntings will assault the senses of lefties and righties both.

And let&#039;s leave the sheeple out of it.

Respectfully,

Joe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack,</p>
<p>This smacks awfully of the &#8220;sheeple&#8221; argument I&#8217;ve seen repeatedly put forth over the last four years or so.  The uninformed public, those who don&#8217;t read blogs, I guess, can&#8217;t be trusted to make informed decisions &#8211; because they don&#8217;t read blogs.  Meh.</p>
<p>As for this:</p>
<blockquote><p>The real plan that underlies the change in tactics has a chance to succeed. Unfortunately, the focus on spin has presented a nonsensical scenario to an American public that is rightly skeptical after so many unrealistic descriptions of the situation in Iraq.</p>
<p>Words and their meanings will come back to haunt those who misuse them.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;d submit that the focus on &#8220;spin&#8221; works both ways &#8211; the spin of the left presents to the American public that Iraq is lost, beyond hope, and entirely the fault of the Bush administration, while the spin of the right posits that Iraq is in stasis, within hope, and subject to defeat only because of the nattering of the leftist politicians who once upon a time voted for the IWR, but retreat from it now because progress hasn&#8217;t suited their own time line.</p>
<p>Neither is accurate, of course, but if indeed &#8220;Words and their meanings will come back to haunt those who misuse them&#8221;, I hope the hauntings will assault the senses of lefties and righties both.</p>
<p>And let&#8217;s leave the sheeple out of it.</p>
<p>Respectfully,</p>
<p>Joe</p>
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