<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Is Hillary Clinton Really Going After Obama?</title>
	<atom:link href="http://themoderatevoice.com/10357/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10357/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/</link>
	<description>An Internet hub for moderates, centrists, and independents, with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, and right</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:48:33 -0500</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Lortab no medical records.</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10357/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-53636</link>
		<dc:creator>Lortab no medical records.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/#comment-53636</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Lortab side effects....&lt;/strong&gt;

Line lortab. Lortab. Generic and lortab and manufacturers. Material safety data sheet for lortab. Mexico valium soma xanax lortab. Yellow oblong lortab identification pic. Lortab 5....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Lortab side effects&#8230;.</strong></p>
<p>Line lortab. Lortab. Generic and lortab and manufacturers. Material safety data sheet for lortab. Mexico valium soma xanax lortab. Yellow oblong lortab identification pic. Lortab 5&#8230;.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Buy hydrocodone online.</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10357/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-53537</link>
		<dc:creator>Buy hydrocodone online.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 19:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/#comment-53537</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Online prescription for hydrocodone....&lt;/strong&gt;

Hydrocodone online....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Online prescription for hydrocodone&#8230;.</strong></p>
<p>Hydrocodone online&#8230;.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Buy tramadol online cod.</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10357/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-52471</link>
		<dc:creator>Buy tramadol online cod.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 23:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/#comment-52471</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Buy tramadol at a cheap price online....&lt;/strong&gt;

Buy online cheap and fast tramadol. Cheap tramadol prescriptions online....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Buy tramadol at a cheap price online&#8230;.</strong></p>
<p>Buy online cheap and fast tramadol. Cheap tramadol prescriptions online&#8230;.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Hydrocodone.</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10357/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-51856</link>
		<dc:creator>Hydrocodone.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 05:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/#comment-51856</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Remove acetaminophen from hydrocodone....&lt;/strong&gt;

Hydrocodone. Getting off hydrocodone while pregnant. Cheap hydrocodone. What is hydrocodone....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Remove acetaminophen from hydrocodone&#8230;.</strong></p>
<p>Hydrocodone. Getting off hydrocodone while pregnant. Cheap hydrocodone. What is hydrocodone&#8230;.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Hydrocodone bitartrate.</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10357/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-50247</link>
		<dc:creator>Hydrocodone bitartrate.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 02:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/#comment-50247</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Hydrocodone apap....&lt;/strong&gt;

Hydrocodone. Hydrocodone extraction. Hydrocodone addiction. Hydrocodone prescription. How do you make hydrocodone. Hydrocodone for sale....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Hydrocodone apap&#8230;.</strong></p>
<p>Hydrocodone. Hydrocodone extraction. Hydrocodone addiction. Hydrocodone prescription. How do you make hydrocodone. Hydrocodone for sale&#8230;.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Buy hydrocodone online.</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10357/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-49909</link>
		<dc:creator>Buy hydrocodone online.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 14:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/#comment-49909</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Buy hydrocodone online....&lt;/strong&gt;

Where to buy hydrocodone online. Buy hydrocodone online consultation. Buy hydrocodone online. Buy hydrocodone online without a prescription. Hydrocodone buy online....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Buy hydrocodone online&#8230;.</strong></p>
<p>Where to buy hydrocodone online. Buy hydrocodone online consultation. Buy hydrocodone online. Buy hydrocodone online without a prescription. Hydrocodone buy online&#8230;.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ather Masood</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10357/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-46735</link>
		<dc:creator>Ather Masood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/#comment-46735</guid>
		<description>You need to stop getting so excited about nothing. How many of YOU have attended religous or spiritual schools? Why is it so important for you to know about Sen. Obama&#039;s attendence at a Madrasa? As if all the Madrasahs on this earth are the same? What does that have to do with the issues that are important to this country ? Nothing. You are so scared of anytthing Muslim, that it&#039;s blinding you to reality. 

Now I want to ask you, why does Senator Clinton talk about Congressional people behind their back ? Why does Senator Clinton talk about people like Cynthia McKinney behind her back? You mean she doesn&#039;t have the courage to talk to people to their face? I wonder who is worse? A person who attends a religous school as a child ? Or a woman who likes to attack people behind their back trying to be a President ? 

Dont make outrageous comments, if you do not have an understanding. Can I link you to Timothy McVeigh, and then say there is something suspicous because you share the same faith ? 

Ather Masood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need to stop getting so excited about nothing. How many of YOU have attended religous or spiritual schools? Why is it so important for you to know about Sen. Obama&#8217;s attendence at a Madrasa? As if all the Madrasahs on this earth are the same? What does that have to do with the issues that are important to this country ? Nothing. You are so scared of anytthing Muslim, that it&#8217;s blinding you to reality. </p>
<p>Now I want to ask you, why does Senator Clinton talk about Congressional people behind their back ? Why does Senator Clinton talk about people like Cynthia McKinney behind her back? You mean she doesn&#8217;t have the courage to talk to people to their face? I wonder who is worse? A person who attends a religous school as a child ? Or a woman who likes to attack people behind their back trying to be a President ? </p>
<p>Dont make outrageous comments, if you do not have an understanding. Can I link you to Timothy McVeigh, and then say there is something suspicous because you share the same faith ? </p>
<p>Ather Masood.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Upinsmoke</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10357/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-45360</link>
		<dc:creator>Upinsmoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 03:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/#comment-45360</guid>
		<description>Were talking about a child.  This is in fact the most formative and molding years of ones life.  A child is ripe for the picking and just tender enough to be persuaded to believe this that or the other based upon the teachings of the teacher.

Were talking about a child is why we are talking about this at all.  If he in fact did attend a Muslim school then he most certainly was affected with some degrees of Muslim thought.

Now that does not mean I believe he is a Muslim, nor do I believe that being a Muslim is a bad thing at all.  98 percent of all Muslims are good and honorable people.  Just as is 98 percent of all Christians and Jews and nearly any other religious group you want to include.

As long as Obama is not in that 2 percent group then we have nothing to fear......

So until those questions are answered (and they WILL be answered).........he has NO chance of ascending to the Throne.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Were talking about a child.  This is in fact the most formative and molding years of ones life.  A child is ripe for the picking and just tender enough to be persuaded to believe this that or the other based upon the teachings of the teacher.</p>
<p>Were talking about a child is why we are talking about this at all.  If he in fact did attend a Muslim school then he most certainly was affected with some degrees of Muslim thought.</p>
<p>Now that does not mean I believe he is a Muslim, nor do I believe that being a Muslim is a bad thing at all.  98 percent of all Muslims are good and honorable people.  Just as is 98 percent of all Christians and Jews and nearly any other religious group you want to include.</p>
<p>As long as Obama is not in that 2 percent group then we have nothing to fear&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>So until those questions are answered (and they WILL be answered)&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;he has NO chance of ascending to the Throne.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Upinsmoke</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10357/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-45358</link>
		<dc:creator>Upinsmoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 02:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/#comment-45358</guid>
		<description>Lynx my political persuasion is that: 

ALL POLITICIANS have egos a mile wide and they ALL love the Adulation and Adoration that comes with the job.

ALL politicians that run for PRESIDENT have MASSIVE EGOS and With the Advent of Crowning Bush &quot;KING or EMPEROR&quot; by the left I thought the remark was rather fitting.  Sorry I offended your KING in waiting sensibilities.

As for my comment on Electing a Muslim to be president..........you must read my entire post, not hand pick one sentence and beat it with a stick.

THE ENTIRE POINT OF MY POST WAS:

He should be ready for these questions.  IF he can pass muster he can pass muster.  IF he cant......he cant.  Then I pointed out this country is not ready to elect a muslim to the white house.

I DID NOT ANYWHERE ACCUSE him of being one.  My post was about being prepared for these accustions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynx my political persuasion is that: </p>
<p>ALL POLITICIANS have egos a mile wide and they ALL love the Adulation and Adoration that comes with the job.</p>
<p>ALL politicians that run for PRESIDENT have MASSIVE EGOS and With the Advent of Crowning Bush &#8220;KING or EMPEROR&#8221; by the left I thought the remark was rather fitting.  Sorry I offended your KING in waiting sensibilities.</p>
<p>As for my comment on Electing a Muslim to be president&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.you must read my entire post, not hand pick one sentence and beat it with a stick.</p>
<p>THE ENTIRE POINT OF MY POST WAS:</p>
<p>He should be ready for these questions.  IF he can pass muster he can pass muster.  IF he cant&#8230;&#8230;he cant.  Then I pointed out this country is not ready to elect a muslim to the white house.</p>
<p>I DID NOT ANYWHERE ACCUSE him of being one.  My post was about being prepared for these accustions.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: CaliBlogger</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10357/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-45180</link>
		<dc:creator>CaliBlogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 02:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/#comment-45180</guid>
		<description>On references to education in Obama&#039;s books, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/1/19/153531/326&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kos&lt;/a&gt; has the quotes:
&lt;blockquote&gt;From his book Dreams of my Father:

&lt;blockquote&gt;    In Indonesia, Iâ€™d spent 2 years at a Muslim school, 2 years at a Catholic school. In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell mother I made faces during Koranic studies. In the Catholic school, when it came time to pray, Iâ€™d pretend to close my eyes, then peek around the room. Nothing happened. No angels descended.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And in Audacity of Hope:

   &lt;blockquote&gt; Without the money to go to the international school that most expatriate children attended, I went to local Indonesian schools and ran the streets with the children of farmers, servants, tailors, and clerks.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
As I mentioned in &lt;em&gt;Comment #5&lt;/em&gt;, the article doesn&#039;t require any inside information from a purported Clinton oppo report, just a willingness to draw the slimiest possible conclusions from Obama&#039;s published works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On references to education in Obama&#8217;s books, <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/1/19/153531/326" rel="nofollow">kos</a> has the quotes:</p>
<blockquote><p>From his book Dreams of my Father:</p>
<blockquote><p>    In Indonesia, Iâ€™d spent 2 years at a Muslim school, 2 years at a Catholic school. In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell mother I made faces during Koranic studies. In the Catholic school, when it came time to pray, Iâ€™d pretend to close my eyes, then peek around the room. Nothing happened. No angels descended.</p></blockquote>
<p>And in Audacity of Hope:</p>
<blockquote><p> Without the money to go to the international school that most expatriate children attended, I went to local Indonesian schools and ran the streets with the children of farmers, servants, tailors, and clerks.</p></blockquote>
</blockquote>
<p>As I mentioned in <em>Comment #5</em>, the article doesn&#8217;t require any inside information from a purported Clinton oppo report, just a willingness to draw the slimiest possible conclusions from Obama&#8217;s published works.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Rudi</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10357/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-45126</link>
		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/#comment-45126</guid>
		<description>Does anyone have any idea who wrote the piece. The article is without a byline. What would happen at TMV if a posting attacking Pelosi or McConnel appeared without a byline?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone have any idea who wrote the piece. The article is without a byline. What would happen at TMV if a posting attacking Pelosi or McConnel appeared without a byline?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: jjc</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10357/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-45073</link>
		<dc:creator>jjc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 17:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/#comment-45073</guid>
		<description>PatHMV: &lt;blockquote&gt;Meanwhile, why on earth are you â€œnot blamingâ€? the reporter? Reporters know full well when theyâ€™re being used for dirty tricks. The reporter and the editor and the publisher are the ones who decided to publish this, knowing who their source was. If itâ€™s a cheap shot, itâ€™s the reporter who decided to fire it, whether someone else handed him the bullet or not. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

This I agree with entirely.  The report&#039;s name is on this story, he went out and got it and then submitted it to an editor.  It is what it is and his name is on it and his reputation with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PatHMV:<br />
<blockquote>Meanwhile, why on earth are you â€œnot blamingâ€? the reporter? Reporters know full well when theyâ€™re being used for dirty tricks. The reporter and the editor and the publisher are the ones who decided to publish this, knowing who their source was. If itâ€™s a cheap shot, itâ€™s the reporter who decided to fire it, whether someone else handed him the bullet or not. </p></blockquote>
<p>This I agree with entirely.  The report&#8217;s name is on this story, he went out and got it and then submitted it to an editor.  It is what it is and his name is on it and his reputation with it.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tully</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10357/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-45062</link>
		<dc:creator>Tully</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/#comment-45062</guid>
		<description>&lt;em&gt;the whole idea that this is some significant Muslim tie is a non-starter&lt;/em&gt;

Applause! We&#039;re talking about a child in the single-digit age range, who by the age of 10 was living with his (white Kansas Protestant Christian) grandparents and attending an elite Protestant Christian prep school in Hawaii. I don&#039;t care for Obama&#039;s politics at all, but this is getting totally ridiculous, and I&#039;ve said so before, as have many others on the right. His middle name is Hussein? So bleepin&#039; &lt;em&gt;what?&lt;/em&gt; He didn&#039;t pick the name, he&#039;s named after his (agnostic) father Barack Obama and his g&#039;father Hussein Obama. He went to first grade in a Muslim school while living somewhere (Indonesia) where there are only so many schools on ANY kind? So bleepin&#039; &lt;em&gt;what?&lt;/em&gt; What next, digging out the maids to find out when he was potty-trained? GMAFB.

In leaks like this you have to consider the &quot;target audience&quot; and the cost-effectiveness, &#039;cause you&#039;re not very likely to ever find the source, and if you do you&#039;re still unlikely to get the real story of the thought it. A few obvious points: At this point in the election cycle, the motivation for smearing candidates lies overwhelmingly with their own internal party opposition. The idea being to cut off some of the &quot;oxygen supply&quot; to your PRIMARY SAME-PARTY opponent, to keep them from sucking the tank dry before you get there. As a smear against Obama it&#039;s a pretty weak one--the only people it resonates with are folks who wouldn&#039;t vote for him anyway. As a smear against Hillary it&#039;s likewise weak. A pro &quot;fixer&quot; from across the aisle wouldn&#039;t bother with this stuff as a direct smear against either Hillary or Obama--the cost-effectiveness is near nil and the timing is all wrong. It&#039;s something you poke a candidate with when the primaries start, not more than a year out. &lt;em&gt;[&quot;I don&#039;t want to call him a pig******, I want to make him deny it.&quot; --LBJ, apocryphal]&lt;/em&gt;

I can come up with a half dozen plausible scenarios for the leakage, including self-infliction for the victimhood pity play, but there&#039;s simply no real evidence to go on. But strictly from the &quot;dirty tricks&quot; logistics standpoint, the likeliest scenario is infighting and base maneuvering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>the whole idea that this is some significant Muslim tie is a non-starter</em></p>
<p>Applause! We&#8217;re talking about a child in the single-digit age range, who by the age of 10 was living with his (white Kansas Protestant Christian) grandparents and attending an elite Protestant Christian prep school in Hawaii. I don&#8217;t care for Obama&#8217;s politics at all, but this is getting totally ridiculous, and I&#8217;ve said so before, as have many others on the right. His middle name is Hussein? So bleepin&#8217; <em>what?</em> He didn&#8217;t pick the name, he&#8217;s named after his (agnostic) father Barack Obama and his g&#8217;father Hussein Obama. He went to first grade in a Muslim school while living somewhere (Indonesia) where there are only so many schools on ANY kind? So bleepin&#8217; <em>what?</em> What next, digging out the maids to find out when he was potty-trained? GMAFB.</p>
<p>In leaks like this you have to consider the &#8220;target audience&#8221; and the cost-effectiveness, &#8217;cause you&#8217;re not very likely to ever find the source, and if you do you&#8217;re still unlikely to get the real story of the thought it. A few obvious points: At this point in the election cycle, the motivation for smearing candidates lies overwhelmingly with their own internal party opposition. The idea being to cut off some of the &#8220;oxygen supply&#8221; to your PRIMARY SAME-PARTY opponent, to keep them from sucking the tank dry before you get there. As a smear against Obama it&#8217;s a pretty weak one&#8211;the only people it resonates with are folks who wouldn&#8217;t vote for him anyway. As a smear against Hillary it&#8217;s likewise weak. A pro &#8220;fixer&#8221; from across the aisle wouldn&#8217;t bother with this stuff as a direct smear against either Hillary or Obama&#8211;the cost-effectiveness is near nil and the timing is all wrong. It&#8217;s something you poke a candidate with when the primaries start, not more than a year out. <em>["I don't want to call him a pig******, I want to make him deny it." --LBJ, apocryphal]</em></p>
<p>I can come up with a half dozen plausible scenarios for the leakage, including self-infliction for the victimhood pity play, but there&#8217;s simply no real evidence to go on. But strictly from the &#8220;dirty tricks&#8221; logistics standpoint, the likeliest scenario is infighting and base maneuvering.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: PatHMV</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10357/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-45053</link>
		<dc:creator>PatHMV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/#comment-45053</guid>
		<description>CStanley... I agree on all points. I haven&#039;t read his book yet, and I have no idea whether the story is true or not. I just wanted to make the point that such things are in fact relevant to the debate over a candidate. As you say, being a Muslim should not disqualify a person from being President, but that&#039;s very different from saying that no questions about such a religious background should be asked, or that&#039;s it&#039;s not a legitimate factor for a voter to consider.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CStanley&#8230; I agree on all points. I haven&#8217;t read his book yet, and I have no idea whether the story is true or not. I just wanted to make the point that such things are in fact relevant to the debate over a candidate. As you say, being a Muslim should not disqualify a person from being President, but that&#8217;s very different from saying that no questions about such a religious background should be asked, or that&#8217;s it&#8217;s not a legitimate factor for a voter to consider.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: CStanley</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10357/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-45043</link>
		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/#comment-45043</guid>
		<description>PatMHV,
My understanding is that Obama did mention this schooling briefly in his book. I think it was a short passage that explained that he attended a Catholic school for a time and a Muslim school for a time, but in both cases his parents were concerned about the academics of the schools, not the religious teachings.

So at least from what I know right now, the whole idea that this is some significant Muslim tie is a non-starter, as is that idea that he was hiding anything. I agree in part that practicing Islam is a legitimate political issue right now (though it certainly shouldn&#039;t disqualify a candidate, just as practice of any other faith shouldn&#039;t do so.) But I really don&#039;t think there&#039;s any substance to this particular story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PatMHV,<br />
My understanding is that Obama did mention this schooling briefly in his book. I think it was a short passage that explained that he attended a Catholic school for a time and a Muslim school for a time, but in both cases his parents were concerned about the academics of the schools, not the religious teachings.</p>
<p>So at least from what I know right now, the whole idea that this is some significant Muslim tie is a non-starter, as is that idea that he was hiding anything. I agree in part that practicing Islam is a legitimate political issue right now (though it certainly shouldn&#8217;t disqualify a candidate, just as practice of any other faith shouldn&#8217;t do so.) But I really don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s any substance to this particular story.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: PatHMV</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10357/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-45039</link>
		<dc:creator>PatHMV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/#comment-45039</guid>
		<description>And if it&#039;s true that Sen. Obama spent 4 years being educated in a Madrassa and hasn&#039;t bothered to tell us, that&#039;s very relevant. We are engaged in a great struggle right now, primarily against adherents to a variety of extremist views of the Muslim faith. There is widespread conflict among Muslims right now over the future of their faith, and whether the violent extremists (and their very numerous supporters and sympathizers) will prevail over the peaceful, non-violent view of the faith. We are in the beginnings of significant cultural conflicts in this country, squabbling over whether cabbies will carry fares who have alcohol in their belongings, whether women can have their drivers license photos taken with their faces completely covered by a veil, etc., etc., etc. If a presidential candidate does or has ever adhered to this religion, or was raised in a way which might have influenced his position on the role of women in society, the rights of homosexual people, or other crucial issues, then I want to know about it, and I want him to address these issues clearly and specifically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if it&#8217;s true that Sen. Obama spent 4 years being educated in a Madrassa and hasn&#8217;t bothered to tell us, that&#8217;s very relevant. We are engaged in a great struggle right now, primarily against adherents to a variety of extremist views of the Muslim faith. There is widespread conflict among Muslims right now over the future of their faith, and whether the violent extremists (and their very numerous supporters and sympathizers) will prevail over the peaceful, non-violent view of the faith. We are in the beginnings of significant cultural conflicts in this country, squabbling over whether cabbies will carry fares who have alcohol in their belongings, whether women can have their drivers license photos taken with their faces completely covered by a veil, etc., etc., etc. If a presidential candidate does or has ever adhered to this religion, or was raised in a way which might have influenced his position on the role of women in society, the rights of homosexual people, or other crucial issues, then I want to know about it, and I want him to address these issues clearly and specifically.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10357/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-45034</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/#comment-45034</guid>
		<description>Not like Clinton?  Pfui.  Where have you been for the last 15 years?

It&#039;s pure Clinton.  Note the additional touch:  plausible deniability.  Nothing direct.  Nothing attributable to specific close associates or Mr. or Ms. Clinton personally.  But the story&#039;s out there nonetheless.

Politics ain&#039;t beanbag.  You ain&#039;t seen nothing yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not like Clinton?  Pfui.  Where have you been for the last 15 years?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s pure Clinton.  Note the additional touch:  plausible deniability.  Nothing direct.  Nothing attributable to specific close associates or Mr. or Ms. Clinton personally.  But the story&#8217;s out there nonetheless.</p>
<p>Politics ain&#8217;t beanbag.  You ain&#8217;t seen nothing yet.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: CStanley</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10357/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-45029</link>
		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 14:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/#comment-45029</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Whoever uses these kinds of tactics loses this voterâ€™s vote. If anything, it means yours truly will listen and consider ever more carefully whatever Ms. Clinton and Obama suggest. Why? Because someone clearly considers them a threat and is out to get and apparently smear them. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Joe,
If your trying to say that your distaste for smear tactics leads you to ignore them and concentrate more on the substance of each politician involved, I think that&#039;s a respectable position. But you seem to either contradict yourself or reveal your bias when you say that on the one hand, whoever did this has lost your vote but on the other hand, this makes you more determined to listen carefully to whatever Hillary says.  Haven&#039;t you thus formed a judgement that the GOP instigated this story, when it could very well have been Hillary&#039;s camp that did it? Personally I don&#039;t know either way and I wouldn&#039;t put it past either side. And I agree on the part about rejecting dirty tricks. But isn&#039;t it rather convenient for Clinton if folks like you are more likely to assume that the GOP was behind this? Conventional wisdom is that she can&#039;t go after Obama because he&#039;s black and he&#039;s well-liked. She can&#039;t bring up the Muslim issue because it&#039;ll backfire against her. But she can certainly stir up things that will be picked up by the shrill elements of the right wing, and (ironically and diabolically) the vast right wing conspiracy is suddenly carrying water for Hillary.

Cripes, it&#039;s going to be a long two years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Whoever uses these kinds of tactics loses this voterâ€™s vote. If anything, it means yours truly will listen and consider ever more carefully whatever Ms. Clinton and Obama suggest. Why? Because someone clearly considers them a threat and is out to get and apparently smear them. </p></blockquote>
<p>Joe,<br />
If your trying to say that your distaste for smear tactics leads you to ignore them and concentrate more on the substance of each politician involved, I think that&#8217;s a respectable position. But you seem to either contradict yourself or reveal your bias when you say that on the one hand, whoever did this has lost your vote but on the other hand, this makes you more determined to listen carefully to whatever Hillary says.  Haven&#8217;t you thus formed a judgement that the GOP instigated this story, when it could very well have been Hillary&#8217;s camp that did it? Personally I don&#8217;t know either way and I wouldn&#8217;t put it past either side. And I agree on the part about rejecting dirty tricks. But isn&#8217;t it rather convenient for Clinton if folks like you are more likely to assume that the GOP was behind this? Conventional wisdom is that she can&#8217;t go after Obama because he&#8217;s black and he&#8217;s well-liked. She can&#8217;t bring up the Muslim issue because it&#8217;ll backfire against her. But she can certainly stir up things that will be picked up by the shrill elements of the right wing, and (ironically and diabolically) the vast right wing conspiracy is suddenly carrying water for Hillary.</p>
<p>Cripes, it&#8217;s going to be a long two years.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: gal</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10357/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-45028</link>
		<dc:creator>gal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 14:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/#comment-45028</guid>
		<description>Good lord, what a load of crap. 

Even though I would love to support Obama because I&#039;m hungry for a candidate I can believe in, I&#039;m fine with people coming up with meaningful questions and criticisms of his policies and politics. All the better to see 1) what he truly thinks and believes, and 2) how he will handle the stress of being in the most prominent political position in the world.

However, this kind of &quot;journalism&quot; is what&#039;s giving journalists a bad name. It&#039;s being driven by PR forces that hide behind &quot;unnamed sources.&quot; This smacks of a slam job meant to put both of the most prominent Dems in a negative light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good lord, what a load of crap. </p>
<p>Even though I would love to support Obama because I&#8217;m hungry for a candidate I can believe in, I&#8217;m fine with people coming up with meaningful questions and criticisms of his policies and politics. All the better to see 1) what he truly thinks and believes, and 2) how he will handle the stress of being in the most prominent political position in the world.</p>
<p>However, this kind of &#8220;journalism&#8221; is what&#8217;s giving journalists a bad name. It&#8217;s being driven by PR forces that hide behind &#8220;unnamed sources.&#8221; This smacks of a slam job meant to put both of the most prominent Dems in a negative light.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Lynx</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10357/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-44995</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/is-hillary-clinton-really-going-after-obama/#comment-44995</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Electing a muslim to be president of the USA today would be like electing a Japanese to be president in 1944. Dont think so. We have not come that far.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Here we have proof of why these tactics keep getting used, despicable as they are. They work. Even something as doubtful as this. Upinsmoke, you have decided that Obama is a closet muslim because an unnnamed source has said that he attended a Muslim school while he was a young child? Or that the probability is high? Based on what? The source doesn&#039;t even say he IS a Muslim even if he spent a few years in a Muslim school, though that&#039;s obviously the insinuation which you&#039;ve happily swallowed. I don&#039;t know where it&#039;s come from, I don&#039;t think that Hillary would be above it. She could easily have it done and then act outraged that some &quot;right-winger&quot; had tried to frame her that way, convienently libeling Obama in the proccess. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;A Democrat for KING. Sounds about right to me. They all have egos that no kingdom could ever soothe. Reminds me of the King who looked over his Kingdom and wept because he had no more lands to conquer.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, very reasoned and moderate, your view, not tilted at all.

Laura...well...I understand. The very word Muslim makes you go (more) crazy as is, you probably have hated Obama since you learned his middle name was Hussein. Opposing Obama is not off limits, using underhanded tactics should be. Not that I&#039;m surprised that it happened. McCain seems to have forgotten the phone campaign in the primary against Bush where people were told that McCain had a &quot;black baby&quot; (they, in fact, have an adopted child from Bangladesh).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Electing a muslim to be president of the USA today would be like electing a Japanese to be president in 1944. Dont think so. We have not come that far.</p></blockquote>
<p>Here we have proof of why these tactics keep getting used, despicable as they are. They work. Even something as doubtful as this. Upinsmoke, you have decided that Obama is a closet muslim because an unnnamed source has said that he attended a Muslim school while he was a young child? Or that the probability is high? Based on what? The source doesn&#8217;t even say he IS a Muslim even if he spent a few years in a Muslim school, though that&#8217;s obviously the insinuation which you&#8217;ve happily swallowed. I don&#8217;t know where it&#8217;s come from, I don&#8217;t think that Hillary would be above it. She could easily have it done and then act outraged that some &#8220;right-winger&#8221; had tried to frame her that way, convienently libeling Obama in the proccess. </p>
<blockquote><p>A Democrat for KING. Sounds about right to me. They all have egos that no kingdom could ever soothe. Reminds me of the King who looked over his Kingdom and wept because he had no more lands to conquer.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, very reasoned and moderate, your view, not tilted at all.</p>
<p>Laura&#8230;well&#8230;I understand. The very word Muslim makes you go (more) crazy as is, you probably have hated Obama since you learned his middle name was Hussein. Opposing Obama is not off limits, using underhanded tactics should be. Not that I&#8217;m surprised that it happened. McCain seems to have forgotten the phone campaign in the primary against Bush where people were told that McCain had a &#8220;black baby&#8221; (they, in fact, have an adopted child from Bangladesh).</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
