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		<title>By: Jim S</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10346/freaky-weather/comment-page-1/#comment-45491</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CS,

   Like it or not that&#039;s what your hero Bush treats science like, along with a significant portion of the Republican party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CS,</p>
<p>   Like it or not that&#8217;s what your hero Bush treats science like, along with a significant portion of the Republican party.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10346/freaky-weather/comment-page-1/#comment-45235</link>
		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 13:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Jim, cause if Garry Trudeau says that is how it is, then it must be so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Jim, cause if Garry Trudeau says that is how it is, then it must be so.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim S</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10346/freaky-weather/comment-page-1/#comment-45072</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The accepted term is &lt;strong&gt;A&lt;/strong&gt;nthropogenic &lt;strong&gt;G&lt;/strong&gt;lobal &lt;strong&gt;W&lt;/strong&gt;arming or AGW. The fact is that the overwhelming majority of scientific evidence shows an overall warming on Earth. I should have been clearer in pointing out that the quote I used concerning regional warming was the claim that Tully and others are making concerning other planets showing &quot;global warming&quot;. They say that the poles of Mars are melting when in fact it is the Southern Pole, one region of the planet. Same thing on Jupiter and the other planets that the skeptics try to use as evidence of some Solar System wide phenomenon that they can&#039;t explain but know must exist because they must discredit the idea of AGW. Frankly, CS, warming isn&#039;t that controversial in the scientific community. You want to know what the &quot;controversy&quot; is really like look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/index.html?uc_full_date=20070114&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The accepted term is <strong>A</strong>nthropogenic <strong>G</strong>lobal <strong>W</strong>arming or AGW. The fact is that the overwhelming majority of scientific evidence shows an overall warming on Earth. I should have been clearer in pointing out that the quote I used concerning regional warming was the claim that Tully and others are making concerning other planets showing &#8220;global warming&#8221;. They say that the poles of Mars are melting when in fact it is the Southern Pole, one region of the planet. Same thing on Jupiter and the other planets that the skeptics try to use as evidence of some Solar System wide phenomenon that they can&#8217;t explain but know must exist because they must discredit the idea of AGW. Frankly, CS, warming isn&#8217;t that controversial in the scientific community. You want to know what the &#8220;controversy&#8221; is really like look at <a href="http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/index.html?uc_full_date=20070114" rel="nofollow">this</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10346/freaky-weather/comment-page-1/#comment-45050</link>
		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dan,
I&#039;m with you on the idea of leaving the semantic battles behind. I&#039;m not sure that &quot;warming&quot; is so controversial, but there are differences of opinion about whether the warming is global rather than regional, and about how critical the situation is, and about how significant human activities are as compared to natural phenomena.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dan,<br />
I&#8217;m with you on the idea of leaving the semantic battles behind. I&#8217;m not sure that &#8220;warming&#8221; is so controversial, but there are differences of opinion about whether the warming is global rather than regional, and about how critical the situation is, and about how significant human activities are as compared to natural phenomena.</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10346/freaky-weather/comment-page-1/#comment-45000</link>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 14:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can we just call it &quot;climate change&quot; like most learned people on the subject do? which sort of (rightfully) removes the semantic argument about &quot;warming&quot; and &quot;cooling&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can we just call it &#8220;climate change&#8221; like most learned people on the subject do? which sort of (rightfully) removes the semantic argument about &#8220;warming&#8221; and &#8220;cooling&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim S</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10346/freaky-weather/comment-page-1/#comment-44940</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 02:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tully,

   A claim of certainty implies a claim of exactitude. I&#039;m not aware of anyone who claims that for any climate model. Secondly, you claim a whole lot of scientists disagree on the existence of AGW. Really? How many is a lot and who are they? How many do they number compared to those who do agree that AGW is taking place? Someone who posts with a nom de plume and makes bad arguments on a hyper-conservative web site like American Thinker just isn&#039;t that persuasive. His entire post is nothing but generalized BS. The basic physics that he made fun of is in fact basic physics that then feeds into a complex system. CO2 is a greenhouse gas. It helps the Earth retain heat. We are pumping billions of tons of CO2 into the atmosphere. Measurements show that CO2 levels are increasing. Measurements also show a warming trend. Heat is energy. It will affect the climate while it continues to increase due to what we are doing to the planet. Not only are we adding CO2 to the system but are affecting the ecosystem in multiple other ways. What do you think all those miles of nice dark roads do to the planet&#039;s albedo? Building roofs made of dark material? Deforestation? Producing dead zones in the ocean?

It&#039;s also amazing how poor the skeptics&#039; reading skills are. The key sentence in the article that Tully links to is completely ignored by both the blogger and Tully. It is &quot;This growth signals a temperature increase in that region, she said.&quot;. The examples they cite as proof of global warming on other planets are in fact regional changes, not global ones. Big difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tully,</p>
<p>   A claim of certainty implies a claim of exactitude. I&#8217;m not aware of anyone who claims that for any climate model. Secondly, you claim a whole lot of scientists disagree on the existence of AGW. Really? How many is a lot and who are they? How many do they number compared to those who do agree that AGW is taking place? Someone who posts with a nom de plume and makes bad arguments on a hyper-conservative web site like American Thinker just isn&#8217;t that persuasive. His entire post is nothing but generalized BS. The basic physics that he made fun of is in fact basic physics that then feeds into a complex system. CO2 is a greenhouse gas. It helps the Earth retain heat. We are pumping billions of tons of CO2 into the atmosphere. Measurements show that CO2 levels are increasing. Measurements also show a warming trend. Heat is energy. It will affect the climate while it continues to increase due to what we are doing to the planet. Not only are we adding CO2 to the system but are affecting the ecosystem in multiple other ways. What do you think all those miles of nice dark roads do to the planet&#8217;s albedo? Building roofs made of dark material? Deforestation? Producing dead zones in the ocean?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also amazing how poor the skeptics&#8217; reading skills are. The key sentence in the article that Tully links to is completely ignored by both the blogger and Tully. It is &#8220;This growth signals a temperature increase in that region, she said.&#8221;. The examples they cite as proof of global warming on other planets are in fact regional changes, not global ones. Big difference.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10346/freaky-weather/comment-page-1/#comment-44914</link>
		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I realize that the deforestation in Central/South America is a major issue (witnessed it myself.) But I wouldn&#039;t be opposed to efforts globally to counteract that. I agree with your sentiment in part (certainly the rest of the world is quick to blame the US and certainly it&#039;s a problem if even our most extreme efforts won&#039;t solve it without the rest of the world taking steps as well) but if the boat is sinking, I&#039;m interested in at least trying to plug the whole even if we have to be the ones to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I realize that the deforestation in Central/South America is a major issue (witnessed it myself.) But I wouldn&#8217;t be opposed to efforts globally to counteract that. I agree with your sentiment in part (certainly the rest of the world is quick to blame the US and certainly it&#8217;s a problem if even our most extreme efforts won&#8217;t solve it without the rest of the world taking steps as well) but if the boat is sinking, I&#8217;m interested in at least trying to plug the whole even if we have to be the ones to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Upinsmoke</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10346/freaky-weather/comment-page-1/#comment-44907</link>
		<dc:creator>Upinsmoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The actual scientific problem is not the deforestation of Northern hemispheres.  Most if not all companies in the USA reforest saplings once they are done cutting.

The problem arises in that once you have cleared out a forest you have in addition to cutting down X number of trees you have also defoilated all the underlying brush and vegetation as well which also burns co2 and reoxengenates the planet.   

Simply planting new trees is like putting a bandaid on a severed artery.  It might slow the bleeding but in the end the patient is still gonna bleed to death and die.

No the actual solution to this problem is not for the USA to make more and more sacrifices while the rest of the world smogs us out of existence.  (Im all for the USA to continue to try and prevent more green house gases from entering the atmosphere)   I know some would have us believe the USA is the lone culprit in this scenario but in actual fact its China, India, The former USSR and the cutting of the rainforest in south America that will be the ultimate demise of this planet.  

And as I posted in another article here on this blog addressed to those who are content with Blaming ONLY the USA for all the worlds environmental woes.  

The world of pollution has changed drastically but your arguments have not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The actual scientific problem is not the deforestation of Northern hemispheres.  Most if not all companies in the USA reforest saplings once they are done cutting.</p>
<p>The problem arises in that once you have cleared out a forest you have in addition to cutting down X number of trees you have also defoilated all the underlying brush and vegetation as well which also burns co2 and reoxengenates the planet.   </p>
<p>Simply planting new trees is like putting a bandaid on a severed artery.  It might slow the bleeding but in the end the patient is still gonna bleed to death and die.</p>
<p>No the actual solution to this problem is not for the USA to make more and more sacrifices while the rest of the world smogs us out of existence.  (Im all for the USA to continue to try and prevent more green house gases from entering the atmosphere)   I know some would have us believe the USA is the lone culprit in this scenario but in actual fact its China, India, The former USSR and the cutting of the rainforest in south America that will be the ultimate demise of this planet.  </p>
<p>And as I posted in another article here on this blog addressed to those who are content with Blaming ONLY the USA for all the worlds environmental woes.  </p>
<p>The world of pollution has changed drastically but your arguments have not.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10346/freaky-weather/comment-page-1/#comment-44899</link>
		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, Upinsmoke, but what I was asking is whether reforestation could partially ameliorate the excess greenhouse gas situation to any practical degree and it seems to me that your argument is that it wouldn&#039;t help because if we replant forest then eventually someone will deforest again. Knowing human nature, I guess that is one concern but still, I&#039;m just asking theoretically how much effect we could get by replanting. I see some info about that in the Wiki link you included above (says that to get the 7% reduction that Kyoto would have required of the US we&#039;d have to replant enough forest to cover the state of Texas every 30 years- so that gives me some idea of the scope involved).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, Upinsmoke, but what I was asking is whether reforestation could partially ameliorate the excess greenhouse gas situation to any practical degree and it seems to me that your argument is that it wouldn&#8217;t help because if we replant forest then eventually someone will deforest again. Knowing human nature, I guess that is one concern but still, I&#8217;m just asking theoretically how much effect we could get by replanting. I see some info about that in the Wiki link you included above (says that to get the 7% reduction that Kyoto would have required of the US we&#8217;d have to replant enough forest to cover the state of Texas every 30 years- so that gives me some idea of the scope involved).</p>
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		<title>By: Michael van der Galien</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10346/freaky-weather/comment-page-1/#comment-44883</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael van der Galien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Upinsmoke, click on link, fill in the URL, click on ok... Then, after the bracket write something like &#039;look here!&#039; and click on the link button again...

you get this: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nasa.gov/worldbook/global_warming_worldbook_prt.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;look here!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Upinsmoke, click on link, fill in the URL, click on ok&#8230; Then, after the bracket write something like &#8216;look here!&#8217; and click on the link button again&#8230;</p>
<p>you get this: <a href="http://www.nasa.gov/worldbook/global_warming_worldbook_prt.htm" rel="nofollow">look here!</a></p>
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		<title>By: Upinsmoke</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10346/freaky-weather/comment-page-1/#comment-44879</link>
		<dc:creator>Upinsmoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>still havent figured out this link thing other then to just post the http:

but anyway I quoted from an article written by NASA.

The article can be found here:

http://www.nasa.gov/worldbook/global_warming_worldbook_prt.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>still havent figured out this link thing other then to just post the http:</p>
<p>but anyway I quoted from an article written by NASA.</p>
<p>The article can be found here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nasa.gov/worldbook/global_warming_worldbook_prt.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.nasa.gov/worldbook/global_warming_worldbook_prt.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Upinsmoke</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10346/freaky-weather/comment-page-1/#comment-44878</link>
		<dc:creator>Upinsmoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Storage in living plants

Green plants absorb CO2 from the atmosphere as they grow. They combine carbon from CO2 with hydrogen to make simple sugars, which they store in their tissues. After plants die, their bodies decay and release CO2. Ecosystems with abundant plant life, such as forests and even cropland, could tie up much carbon. However, future generations of people would have to keep the ecosystems intact. Otherwise, the sequestered carbon would re-enter the atmosphere as CO2. 

quoted here from:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://http://www.nasa.gov/worldbook/global_warming_worldbook_prt.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Storage in living plants</p>
<p>Green plants absorb CO2 from the atmosphere as they grow. They combine carbon from CO2 with hydrogen to make simple sugars, which they store in their tissues. After plants die, their bodies decay and release CO2. Ecosystems with abundant plant life, such as forests and even cropland, could tie up much carbon. However, future generations of people would have to keep the ecosystems intact. Otherwise, the sequestered carbon would re-enter the atmosphere as CO2. </p>
<p>quoted here from:</p>
<p><a href="http://http://www.nasa.gov/worldbook/global_warming_worldbook_prt.htm" rel="nofollow"></a></p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10346/freaky-weather/comment-page-1/#comment-44873</link>
		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks BYG and CP. I&#039;ll read more from the links when I get a chance. At first glance, I&#039;m starting to have more questions than I did before, but that&#039;s part of the learning process I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks BYG and CP. I&#8217;ll read more from the links when I get a chance. At first glance, I&#8217;m starting to have more questions than I did before, but that&#8217;s part of the learning process I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Prez</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10346/freaky-weather/comment-page-1/#comment-44866</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Prez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BYG and C,

Methane release is also very important.  Check this article and post out (I&#039;ll use the same claim Jack at peakoil.com did when he posted the article):

http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic26163.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BYG and C,</p>
<p>Methane release is also very important.  Check this article and post out (I&#8217;ll use the same claim Jack at peakoil.com did when he posted the article):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic26163.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic26163.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: BeYourGuest</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10346/freaky-weather/comment-page-1/#comment-44854</link>
		<dc:creator>BeYourGuest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C Stanley--

Rapid deforestation means a lot more dead vegetation to decompose its carbon dioxide off into the atmosphere. Also, in places that are cold enough--like Siberia--dead plants freeze and do not decompose. If Siberia were to thaw, there&#039;d be a sudden release hundreds(?) of years worth of sequestered carbon. 

Efforts to find new ways to sequester carbon are ongoing.

The Wikipedia page on the carbon cycle is &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_cycle&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;HERE&lt;/A&gt;. And the Wikpedia page on carbon sequestration is &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_sequestration&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;HERE&lt;/A&gt;. 

I hope that helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C Stanley&#8211;</p>
<p>Rapid deforestation means a lot more dead vegetation to decompose its carbon dioxide off into the atmosphere. Also, in places that are cold enough&#8211;like Siberia&#8211;dead plants freeze and do not decompose. If Siberia were to thaw, there&#8217;d be a sudden release hundreds(?) of years worth of sequestered carbon. </p>
<p>Efforts to find new ways to sequester carbon are ongoing.</p>
<p>The Wikipedia page on the carbon cycle is <a HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_cycle" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>. And the Wikpedia page on carbon sequestration is <a HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_sequestration" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>. </p>
<p>I hope that helps.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10346/freaky-weather/comment-page-1/#comment-44819</link>
		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should clarify: I do understand that the burning of vegetation would put more CO2 back into the atmosphere because the organic carbon compounds would then be recombined with O2 in the air. That would reverse the process whereby the plant took CO2 out of the air and broke it down. But what I&#039;m getting at is that natural decay of dead plants, because it occurs slowly, should help modulate the amount of CO2 and some of the carbon should remain behind, so that would have a net effect of taking CO2 out of the atmosphere--but what I think Upinsmoke is saying is that excess CO2 in the atmosphere is somehow stored in that form in the plants when it is in higher concentration in the atmosphere, so that it is then directly released back from the dead vegetation. That part is something I haven&#039;t heard before and I&#039;d like to learn if there is something to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should clarify: I do understand that the burning of vegetation would put more CO2 back into the atmosphere because the organic carbon compounds would then be recombined with O2 in the air. That would reverse the process whereby the plant took CO2 out of the air and broke it down. But what I&#8217;m getting at is that natural decay of dead plants, because it occurs slowly, should help modulate the amount of CO2 and some of the carbon should remain behind, so that would have a net effect of taking CO2 out of the atmosphere&#8211;but what I think Upinsmoke is saying is that excess CO2 in the atmosphere is somehow stored in that form in the plants when it is in higher concentration in the atmosphere, so that it is then directly released back from the dead vegetation. That part is something I haven&#8217;t heard before and I&#8217;d like to learn if there is something to that.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10346/freaky-weather/comment-page-1/#comment-44804</link>
		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Upinsmoke,
Do you have a source that explains the plant decay and release of CO2? What you are saying seems counterintuitive. I admit that as a student of animal physiology, I&#039;m much more familiar with animal respiration than with plant processes, but my understanding is that CO2 is utilized in photosynthesis which has byproducts including O2. Is CO2 really absorbed and stored in plant cells when it&#039;s present at higher levels in the atmosphere?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Upinsmoke,<br />
Do you have a source that explains the plant decay and release of CO2? What you are saying seems counterintuitive. I admit that as a student of animal physiology, I&#8217;m much more familiar with animal respiration than with plant processes, but my understanding is that CO2 is utilized in photosynthesis which has byproducts including O2. Is CO2 really absorbed and stored in plant cells when it&#8217;s present at higher levels in the atmosphere?</p>
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		<title>By: Upinsmoke</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10346/freaky-weather/comment-page-1/#comment-44800</link>
		<dc:creator>Upinsmoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And actually I find that most people dont even understand global warming.  They think warming..oh were all gonna set around and sweat. 

The reality as I posted earlier is global warming will change the tidal currents, moving the warm tides farther south causing what I described above.  So in essence Global warming will in effect be this planets FIX.

MAN will suffer and survive and be along for the ride while the planet fixes itself.  Ie it will kill off those evil green house producing plants and bury them under vast amounts of snow preventing them from releasing their gases into the atmosphere.

It will also bring to a screeching halt the vast offenders of the the biosphere......the USA, Europe, China and the former USSR.  So while mankind is forced to readapt the world will be cleaning itself and going thru what I predict will be a several hundred year cleansing and rebalancing act.

Man is no match for mother nature.  The Global warming going on today is Mother Natures alarm clock going off.  She is sending us Emails but we arent opening them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And actually I find that most people dont even understand global warming.  They think warming..oh were all gonna set around and sweat. </p>
<p>The reality as I posted earlier is global warming will change the tidal currents, moving the warm tides farther south causing what I described above.  So in essence Global warming will in effect be this planets FIX.</p>
<p>MAN will suffer and survive and be along for the ride while the planet fixes itself.  Ie it will kill off those evil green house producing plants and bury them under vast amounts of snow preventing them from releasing their gases into the atmosphere.</p>
<p>It will also bring to a screeching halt the vast offenders of the the biosphere&#8230;&#8230;the USA, Europe, China and the former USSR.  So while mankind is forced to readapt the world will be cleaning itself and going thru what I predict will be a several hundred year cleansing and rebalancing act.</p>
<p>Man is no match for mother nature.  The Global warming going on today is Mother Natures alarm clock going off.  She is sending us Emails but we arent opening them.</p>
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		<title>By: christine</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10346/freaky-weather/comment-page-1/#comment-44799</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tully, I think most of us, or myself at least, are very aware that there is controversy over the definition of &#039;global warming&#039; and the cause of it.  Most of us realize that there are natural cycles in climate, but we also know that man can interfer with nature quite a bit.  True, we do not know for a fact exactly how much human action has contributed to the changes, but man has contributed.  Since man can contribute to the cause, they certianly can contribute to the cure.  Since human history is extremely short on this planet, wouldn&#039;t it be better to error on the side of caution and affect what we can than to let it all hang out and wait to see what happens??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tully, I think most of us, or myself at least, are very aware that there is controversy over the definition of &#8216;global warming&#8217; and the cause of it.  Most of us realize that there are natural cycles in climate, but we also know that man can interfer with nature quite a bit.  True, we do not know for a fact exactly how much human action has contributed to the changes, but man has contributed.  Since man can contribute to the cause, they certianly can contribute to the cure.  Since human history is extremely short on this planet, wouldn&#8217;t it be better to error on the side of caution and affect what we can than to let it all hang out and wait to see what happens??</p>
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		<title>By: Upinsmoke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Upinsmoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually the reforestation has a major drawback.  Let me explain.

There are two sources of greenhouse gases.  MAN and decaying dead plant life.

What scientists are finding is that plant life that dies now decays at a certain rate.  However that plant life is now decaying at a far slower rate because the plantlife is filled with excessive amounts of co2.  

Decaying plant life releases co2 into the atmosphere and because they are being forced to absorb more and more Co2 as a result of more and more green house gases in the air, they have more co2 to release when they die and decay.

Its a vicious cycle and the simple planting of more trees will not solve the problem, but the deforestation of the planet will certainly hasten the effects of global warming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the reforestation has a major drawback.  Let me explain.</p>
<p>There are two sources of greenhouse gases.  MAN and decaying dead plant life.</p>
<p>What scientists are finding is that plant life that dies now decays at a certain rate.  However that plant life is now decaying at a far slower rate because the plantlife is filled with excessive amounts of co2.  </p>
<p>Decaying plant life releases co2 into the atmosphere and because they are being forced to absorb more and more Co2 as a result of more and more green house gases in the air, they have more co2 to release when they die and decay.</p>
<p>Its a vicious cycle and the simple planting of more trees will not solve the problem, but the deforestation of the planet will certainly hasten the effects of global warming.</p>
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