Comments on: Now Hanging Of Saddam Hussein’s Half-Brother Is Controversial http://themoderatevoice.com/10291/now-hanging-of-saddams-half-brother-is-controversial/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Sun, 27 May 2012 19:41:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: marc http://themoderatevoice.com/10291/now-hanging-of-saddams-half-brother-is-controversial/comment-page-1/#comment-44006 marc Tue, 16 Jan 2007 06:01:27 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/uncategorized/now-hanging-of-saddams-half-brother-is-controversial/#comment-44006 It's hard for me to get too worked up over this. Those who hated Saddam and his ilk for the deeds they did will be happy and those who are looking for something to turn into a cause may have found it. Whether is a rallying point for them remains to be seen. But it doesn't matter - they would have found something else to carp about. They may still. It’s hard for me to get too worked up over this. Those who hated Saddam and his ilk for the deeds they did will be happy and those who are looking for something to turn into a cause may have found it. Whether is a rallying point for them remains to be seen. But it doesn’t matter – they would have found something else to carp about. They may still.

]]> By: grognard http://themoderatevoice.com/10291/now-hanging-of-saddams-half-brother-is-controversial/comment-page-1/#comment-43999 grognard Tue, 16 Jan 2007 04:04:59 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/uncategorized/now-hanging-of-saddams-half-brother-is-controversial/#comment-43999 Lets see, Bush announces a surge to pacify Baghdad. Maliki tells Sadr to stand down and hide his army, then he has Saddam and now two more Sunnis killed just before we start to show up. How convenient, the Sunnis are in a rage and Sadr city is quiet. We knock off a bunch of Sunni insurgents, who also just happen to be political opponents of Maliki, declare the city peaceful and leave. If I am right that Maliki is purposely stirring things up he will probably need to knock off a few more to make things really boil in the Sunni sections of Baghdad, we will see. Lets see, Bush announces a surge to pacify Baghdad. Maliki tells Sadr to stand down and hide his army, then he has Saddam and now two more Sunnis killed just before we start to show up. How convenient, the Sunnis are in a rage and Sadr city is quiet. We knock off a bunch of Sunni insurgents, who also just happen to be political opponents of Maliki, declare the city peaceful and leave. If I am right that Maliki is purposely stirring things up he will probably need to knock off a few more to make things really boil in the Sunni sections of Baghdad, we will see.

]]> By: Sam http://themoderatevoice.com/10291/now-hanging-of-saddams-half-brother-is-controversial/comment-page-1/#comment-43987 Sam Tue, 16 Jan 2007 03:02:28 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/uncategorized/now-hanging-of-saddams-half-brother-is-controversial/#comment-43987 Actually I was referring to the comments that the head was intentionally ripped from the body. “We had never heard that the head of a hanged person was ripped from his body" That seems like BS to me. I've heard of it and I'm just a civilian in a country that hardly hangs anyone. Executions are messy affairs, everyone acts so shocked at THIS seemingly appalling act when hundreds more go on every day there. Iraqi civilians who are on their way to work get kidnapped, tortured with power drills, and have their bodies dumped off in mass graves. And THIS "botched" execution is what gets our blood boiling? Actually I was referring to the comments that the head was intentionally ripped from the body.

“We had never heard that the head of a hanged person was ripped from his body”

That seems like BS to me. I’ve heard of it and I’m just a civilian in a country that hardly hangs anyone. Executions are messy affairs, everyone acts so shocked at THIS seemingly appalling act when hundreds more go on every day there.

Iraqi civilians who are on their way to work get kidnapped, tortured with power drills, and have their bodies dumped off in mass graves. And THIS “botched” execution is what gets our blood boiling?

]]> By: Kim Ritter http://themoderatevoice.com/10291/now-hanging-of-saddams-half-brother-is-controversial/comment-page-1/#comment-43967 Kim Ritter Tue, 16 Jan 2007 01:30:07 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/uncategorized/now-hanging-of-saddams-half-brother-is-controversial/#comment-43967 One of the problems in running operations together is that there is a massive disconnect between Washington and the Green Zone. Does not bode well for the upcoming plans to retake Baghdad, I'm afraid. They are an embarrassment to democracies everywhere so far. One of the problems in running operations together is that there is a massive disconnect between Washington and the Green Zone. Does not bode well for the upcoming plans to retake Baghdad, I’m afraid. They are an embarrassment to democracies everywhere so far.

]]> By: Pyst http://themoderatevoice.com/10291/now-hanging-of-saddams-half-brother-is-controversial/comment-page-1/#comment-43956 Pyst Tue, 16 Jan 2007 00:28:21 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/uncategorized/now-hanging-of-saddams-half-brother-is-controversial/#comment-43956 Well said Steve. The Iraqi government (if you can call the keystone cops mess they are a government) is a massive joke. Ours is running a close second right now, but would move up many places if we didn't have Bushco running it. Well said Steve.

The Iraqi government (if you can call the keystone cops mess they are a government) is a massive joke. Ours is running a close second right now, but would move up many places if we didn’t have Bushco running it.

]]> By: SteveK http://themoderatevoice.com/10291/now-hanging-of-saddams-half-brother-is-controversial/comment-page-1/#comment-43955 SteveK Tue, 16 Jan 2007 00:19:53 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/uncategorized/now-hanging-of-saddams-half-brother-is-controversial/#comment-43955 <blockquote><em>Sam said: Sometimes when you hang people their heads come off. I really dont think it is anything more sinister than that.</em></blockquote>Sometimes when you invade and overthrow a sovereign nation things don't work out as you planned. I really don't think it is anything more sinister than that and would be very surprised if anyone else thought any different. /snark

Sam said: Sometimes when you hang people their heads come off. I really dont think it is anything more sinister than that.

Sometimes when you invade and overthrow a sovereign nation things don’t work out as you planned. I really don’t think it is anything more sinister than that and would be very surprised if anyone else thought any different. /snark

]]> By: Sam http://themoderatevoice.com/10291/now-hanging-of-saddams-half-brother-is-controversial/comment-page-1/#comment-43921 Sam Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:07:18 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/uncategorized/now-hanging-of-saddams-half-brother-is-controversial/#comment-43921 Sometimes when you hang people their heads come off. I really dont think it is anything more sinister than that. Sometimes when you hang people their heads come off. I really dont think it is anything more sinister than that.

]]> By: SFB http://themoderatevoice.com/10291/now-hanging-of-saddams-half-brother-is-controversial/comment-page-1/#comment-43887 SFB Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:44:36 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/uncategorized/now-hanging-of-saddams-half-brother-is-controversial/#comment-43887 So the Iraqi hangmen are not experts. I'm still not losing any sleep for these guys. Somehow, I don't see any point in trying to apply western valuses to this situation. Additionally, western elites may oppose the death penalty, but most of the public would gladly bring it back. Unlike our president, I watched the complete video of Saddam Hussein's execution, and I'd say that while many of the crowd gets an "F" in deportment for showing poor form at the hanging, the execution was pretty professional. President Hussein had a swift death, which was much more mreciful than that accorded to many of his victims. Maybe someone can translate the table of drops into metric for the benefit of the Iraqi hangmen. I'd hazard a guess the drop was too long because someone took English units and fumbled when they converted it meters. Heck if NASA can screw up the conversion, why should we expect hangmen to do any better. So the Iraqi hangmen are not experts. I’m still not losing any sleep for these guys. Somehow, I don’t see any point in trying to apply western valuses to this situation. Additionally, western elites may oppose the death penalty, but most of the public would gladly bring it back.

Unlike our president, I watched the complete video of Saddam Hussein’s execution, and I’d say that while many of the crowd gets an “F” in deportment for showing poor form at the hanging, the execution was pretty professional. President Hussein had a swift death, which was much more mreciful than that accorded to many of his victims. Maybe someone can translate the table of drops into metric for the benefit of the Iraqi hangmen. I’d hazard a guess the drop was too long because someone took English units and fumbled when they converted it meters. Heck if NASA can screw up the conversion, why should we expect hangmen to do any better.

]]> By: Bellisaurius http://themoderatevoice.com/10291/now-hanging-of-saddams-half-brother-is-controversial/comment-page-1/#comment-43874 Bellisaurius Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:27:24 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/uncategorized/now-hanging-of-saddams-half-brother-is-controversial/#comment-43874 The decapitation folks apparently didn't read the popular mechanics article on hanging. You need about 1260ft-lbf to seperate the neck. Take this, divide by the prisoner's weight, and voila, the appropriate length. Too short and he chokes, too long, and well, things break off. The decapitation folks apparently didn’t read the popular mechanics article on hanging. You need about 1260ft-lbf to seperate the neck. Take this, divide by the prisoner’s weight, and voila, the appropriate length. Too short and he chokes, too long, and well, things break off.

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