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		<title>By: SFB</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10274/the-never-ending-struggle-for-civil-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-43905</link>
		<dc:creator>SFB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. King, like many historical figures is deeply problematic on a personal level, and yet he accomplished great good for society.  However, Before the folks on the left get comfortable thinking that Dr. King was securely in their camp, I suggest you ask youself if there are problems caused by black consciousness raising run amok which might have hurt efforts to reach the color-blind society Dr. King advocated?  The dreadful situation at Duke comes to mind, but there have been other cases, most of which get very little coverage in the MSM.  

I think it is appropriate that as we honor the work and life of Dr. King, we might ask ourselves if we are part of the problem or the solution.  I would suggest that it is long past time to start really trying to put Dr. King&#039;s vision into effect, where people will be judged on the content of their character, rather than the color of their skin.  If that is not a priority, then I think it shows how selectively we read Dr. King&#039;s work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. King, like many historical figures is deeply problematic on a personal level, and yet he accomplished great good for society.  However, Before the folks on the left get comfortable thinking that Dr. King was securely in their camp, I suggest you ask youself if there are problems caused by black consciousness raising run amok which might have hurt efforts to reach the color-blind society Dr. King advocated?  The dreadful situation at Duke comes to mind, but there have been other cases, most of which get very little coverage in the MSM.  </p>
<p>I think it is appropriate that as we honor the work and life of Dr. King, we might ask ourselves if we are part of the problem or the solution.  I would suggest that it is long past time to start really trying to put Dr. King&#8217;s vision into effect, where people will be judged on the content of their character, rather than the color of their skin.  If that is not a priority, then I think it shows how selectively we read Dr. King&#8217;s work.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Ritter</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10274/the-never-ending-struggle-for-civil-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-43805</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Ritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though many opportunities have been created for blacks, privately a lot of racist attitudes still persist. Blacks and whites often live and socialize in a system of defacto segregation, forty years after King&#039;s stirring speech. Change starts in examining our own attitudes, and trying in our own imperfect way to advance the cause of a color-blind society. I believe in constantly challenging our own assumptions about race. We definitely do not live in a color-blind society yet. 

I do see a lot of encouraging progress in the realm of political and economic power for blacks, as they now hold some of the most prestigious positions in the country. This past election gave us the second black governor, a black majority whip, and some minority committee chairs. King would have been pleased with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though many opportunities have been created for blacks, privately a lot of racist attitudes still persist. Blacks and whites often live and socialize in a system of defacto segregation, forty years after King&#8217;s stirring speech. Change starts in examining our own attitudes, and trying in our own imperfect way to advance the cause of a color-blind society. I believe in constantly challenging our own assumptions about race. We definitely do not live in a color-blind society yet. </p>
<p>I do see a lot of encouraging progress in the realm of political and economic power for blacks, as they now hold some of the most prestigious positions in the country. This past election gave us the second black governor, a black majority whip, and some minority committee chairs. King would have been pleased with that.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun Mullen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun Mullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Charles:&lt;/em&gt;

A most pertinent quote. Thank you.

As Dr. King looks at today&#039;s world from beyond the grave, I am sure he would have mixed feeling (most of them negative) about one group of believers who have found their voice: The white, right-wing fundamentalist Christians who have been fighting the culture wars with the approval -- and sometimes the active support -- of the White House.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Charles:</em></p>
<p>A most pertinent quote. Thank you.</p>
<p>As Dr. King looks at today&#8217;s world from beyond the grave, I am sure he would have mixed feeling (most of them negative) about one group of believers who have found their voice: The white, right-wing fundamentalist Christians who have been fighting the culture wars with the approval &#8212; and sometimes the active support &#8212; of the White House.</p>
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		<title>By: CharlesJordan</title>
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		<dc:creator>CharlesJordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A portion of Dr. King&#039;s letter from the Birmingham jail. Before this part he talks about his frustration with the white church (whom in the early days he assumed would be his ally) He lamated what the church used to be and what is has become. -- 


&lt;blockquote&gt;There was a time when the church was very powerful in the time when the early Christians rejoiced at being deemed worthy to suffer for what they believed. In those days the church was not merely a thermometer that recorded the ideas and principles of popular opinion; it was a thermostat that transformed the mores of society. Whenever the early Christians entered a town, the people in power became disturbed and immediately sought to convict the Christians for being &quot;disturbers of the peace&quot; and &quot;outside agitators&quot;&#039; But the Christians pressed on, in the conviction that they were &quot;a colony of heaven,&quot; called to obey God rather than man. Small in number, they were big in commitment. They were too God intoxicated to be &quot;astronomically intimidated.&quot; By their effort and example they brought an end to such ancient evils as infanticide. and gladiatorial contests. 

Things are different now. So often the contemporary church is a weak, ineffectual voice with an uncertain sound. So often it is an archdefender of the status quo. Par from being disturbed by the presence of the church, the power structure of the average community is consoled by the church&#039;s silent and often even vocal sanction of things as they are.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A portion of Dr. King&#8217;s letter from the Birmingham jail. Before this part he talks about his frustration with the white church (whom in the early days he assumed would be his ally) He lamated what the church used to be and what is has become. &#8212; </p>
<blockquote><p>There was a time when the church was very powerful in the time when the early Christians rejoiced at being deemed worthy to suffer for what they believed. In those days the church was not merely a thermometer that recorded the ideas and principles of popular opinion; it was a thermostat that transformed the mores of society. Whenever the early Christians entered a town, the people in power became disturbed and immediately sought to convict the Christians for being &#8220;disturbers of the peace&#8221; and &#8220;outside agitators&#8221;&#8216; But the Christians pressed on, in the conviction that they were &#8220;a colony of heaven,&#8221; called to obey God rather than man. Small in number, they were big in commitment. They were too God intoxicated to be &#8220;astronomically intimidated.&#8221; By their effort and example they brought an end to such ancient evils as infanticide. and gladiatorial contests. </p>
<p>Things are different now. So often the contemporary church is a weak, ineffectual voice with an uncertain sound. So often it is an archdefender of the status quo. Par from being disturbed by the presence of the church, the power structure of the average community is consoled by the church&#8217;s silent and often even vocal sanction of things as they are.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: CharlesJordan</title>
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		<dc:creator>CharlesJordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Eyes on the Prize&lt;/em&gt;, anybody ever watched that or read the book.  It tells the story of the so called little people who worked for their rights.  It&#039;s a lessson about the power of the activist citizen. A story today&#039;s pundit and political class would rather you (the citizen) didn&#039;t know.  People like Fanny Lou Hammer, Dane Nash (my personal favorite) Bob Moses, and Bayard Rustin, Mose Wright and others who&#039;s name I don&#039;t remember.  Amazing people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Eyes on the Prize</em>, anybody ever watched that or read the book.  It tells the story of the so called little people who worked for their rights.  It&#8217;s a lessson about the power of the activist citizen. A story today&#8217;s pundit and political class would rather you (the citizen) didn&#8217;t know.  People like Fanny Lou Hammer, Dane Nash (my personal favorite) Bob Moses, and Bayard Rustin, Mose Wright and others who&#8217;s name I don&#8217;t remember.  Amazing people.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 01:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are those in this country who believe that we should pretend that we are capable of functioning as a color blind society. They claim that there is no reason for any adjustments to policy (Call it affirmative action or whatever else you want.) to account for racism because it is a thing of the past. Make our policies and procedures color blind and society will follow, seems to be their mantra.

But those students who were so happy that the &quot;nigger&quot; had been murdered and all those who agreed with them who were of their age, a little older or a little younger are mostly still with us. How much have they changed? My family is from the South. The last time I visited there I was deeply ashamed of the attitudes I heard being taken for granted. It&#039;s part of the reason I consider the &quot;New South&quot; that they brag about to be nothing but a shallow cover for the endemic racism of the region. That having been said the rest of our country is far from blameless. Research the history of the Klan. See how powerful they were for a long time in most of the country. That kind of deep bigotry doesn&#039;t go away easily even in a couple of generations. There is still a great deal to be done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are those in this country who believe that we should pretend that we are capable of functioning as a color blind society. They claim that there is no reason for any adjustments to policy (Call it affirmative action or whatever else you want.) to account for racism because it is a thing of the past. Make our policies and procedures color blind and society will follow, seems to be their mantra.</p>
<p>But those students who were so happy that the &#8220;nigger&#8221; had been murdered and all those who agreed with them who were of their age, a little older or a little younger are mostly still with us. How much have they changed? My family is from the South. The last time I visited there I was deeply ashamed of the attitudes I heard being taken for granted. It&#8217;s part of the reason I consider the &#8220;New South&#8221; that they brag about to be nothing but a shallow cover for the endemic racism of the region. That having been said the rest of our country is far from blameless. Research the history of the Klan. See how powerful they were for a long time in most of the country. That kind of deep bigotry doesn&#8217;t go away easily even in a couple of generations. There is still a great deal to be done.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikkel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone seen the Boondock&#039;s episode on MLK? That was great on so many levels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone seen the Boondock&#8217;s episode on MLK? That was great on so many levels.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shaun Thx, I only read the post here. Just being a little lazy.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shaun Thx, I only read the post here. Just being a little lazy&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Holly in Cincinnati</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly in Cincinnati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 17:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a ten-year-old child in Toledo, Ohio. People were worried, perhaps understandably so, about race riots spreading south from Detroit. I remember, because it was so strange, men with rifles patrolling on the roof of Westgate Shopping Center in West Toledo not far from the wealthy village in which I lived. 

Now I live in the City of Cincinnati and can still see the scars of the 60s riots. A synagogue building was destroyed by the rioters and the Jewish community moved further northeast. I can drive up and down Reading Road and see history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a ten-year-old child in Toledo, Ohio. People were worried, perhaps understandably so, about race riots spreading south from Detroit. I remember, because it was so strange, men with rifles patrolling on the roof of Westgate Shopping Center in West Toledo not far from the wealthy village in which I lived. </p>
<p>Now I live in the City of Cincinnati and can still see the scars of the 60s riots. A synagogue building was destroyed by the rioters and the Jewish community moved further northeast. I can drive up and down Reading Road and see history.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun Mullen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun Mullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 17:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Rudi:&lt;/em&gt;

Yup.  That is why I put a link in my post to excerpts from Dr. King&#039;s great antiwar speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Rudi:</em></p>
<p>Yup.  That is why I put a link in my post to excerpts from Dr. King&#8217;s great antiwar speech.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 17:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Towards the end of his life MLK spoke out against the Vietnam war. This didn&#039;t endear him with may in the US. His anti-Vietnam war stance fit into his overall philosophies, but history ignores this in favor of making him Santa Claus and Gandi......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Towards the end of his life MLK spoke out against the Vietnam war. This didn&#8217;t endear him with may in the US. His anti-Vietnam war stance fit into his overall philosophies, but history ignores this in favor of making him Santa Claus and Gandi&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun Mullen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun Mullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 15:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you.

I did not mention in my essay that many communities have public service days on MLK Day, and if you don&#039;t have school or a job obligation, getting involved in a local program is a terrific way to honor Dr. King&#039;s memory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>I did not mention in my essay that many communities have public service days on MLK Day, and if you don&#8217;t have school or a job obligation, getting involved in a local program is a terrific way to honor Dr. King&#8217;s memory.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveK</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 15:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a lovely, well thought out tribute to Dr. King, civil rights in general, and the power that&#039;s held by good people everywhere if only they&#039;d know that they have it.

Thank you Shaun... Very nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a lovely, well thought out tribute to Dr. King, civil rights in general, and the power that&#8217;s held by good people everywhere if only they&#8217;d know that they have it.</p>
<p>Thank you Shaun&#8230; Very nice.</p>
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