More Iraq


Jan 14, 2007 by

Hot Air has an interesting post up on Iraq with links to quite some interesting articles. One of them (The Guardian):

“Its not a good time to be a Sunni in Baghdad,” Abu Omar told me in a low voice. He had been on the Americans’ wanted list for three years but I had never seen him so anxious; he had trimmed his beard in the close-cropped Shia style and kept looking towards the door. His brother had been kidnapped a few days before, he told me, and he believed he was next on a Shia militia’s list. He had fled his home in the north of the city and was staying with relatives in a Sunni stronghold in west Baghdad.

He was more despondent than angry. “We Sunni are to blame,” he said. “In my area some ignorant al-Qaida guys have been kidnapping poor Shia farmers, killing them and throwing their bodies in the river. I told them: ‘This is not jihad. You can’t kill all the Shia! This is wrong! The Shia militias are like rabid dogs – why provoke them?’ ”

Then he said: “I am trying to talk to the Americans. I want to give them assurances that no one will attack them in our area if they stop the Shia militias from coming.”

This man who had spent the last three years fighting the Americans was now willing to talk to them, not because he wanted to make peace but because he saw the Americans as the lesser of two evils. He was wrestling with the same dilemma as many Sunni insurgent leaders, beginning to doubt the wisdom of their alliance with al-Qaida extremists.

At a meeting between Sunni insurgent commanders:

A heated discussion was raging. One of the men, with a very thin moustache, a huge belly and a red kuffiya wrapped around his shoulder, held a copy of the Qur’an in one hand and a mobile phone in the other. I asked him what his objectives were. “We are fighting to liberate our country from the occupations of the Americans and their Iranian-Shia stooges.”

“My brother, I disagree,” said Abu Omar. “Look, the Americans are trying to talk to us Sunnis and we need to show them that we can do politics. We need to use the Americans to fight the Shia.”
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The taxi driver commander, who sat cross-legged on a sofa, joined in: “If the Americans leave we will be slaughtered.” A big-bellied man waved his hands dismissively: “We will massacre the Shia and show them who are the Sunnis! They couldn’t have done anything without the Americans’ support.”

Sadly, Abu Omar disappeared suddenly. Probably killed, although his body has never been found.

If this report at The Guardian is accurate, it seems that there is quite a debate going on within the Sunni insurgent ‘community’ about how to deal with the Americans (and about the wisdom of taking on the Shia). The Sunni ‘insurgents’ have made a deal with Al Qaeda which, as everybody could have told them, was a major mistake. The Shia are more numerous, have more money, more influence in the government, etc.

In short, the Sunnis cannot win this battle. The only way for them to live in peace, to live in safety, is to work with the Americans as much as possible or at least to not attack them. Once the American forces completely withdraw, the Shia militias and Sunni militias will not be hindered by anything and… as I see it, this will result in a terrible masacre at – especially – the side of the Sunnis.

That this debate exists, is a good sign. It is a sign that there might still be hope that the Sunnis will change their behavior. If the Sunnis would stop working with Al Qaeda, if they would stop attacking American soldiers, it will become more easy for the U.S. to protect them, to rebuild those areas, it will make life more easy for the Sunnis themselves, etc. Lets hope that like minded people (like minded to Omar that is) win this debate. If they do, the situation has the potential to improve. Perhaps even quite significantly.

That is, if al-Maliki, however, actually dedicates himself to protecting the Sunnis as well. About al-Maliki, from the L.A. Times:

Iraqi political figures said Friday that Maliki also had failed to consult the leaders of other political factions before announcing the appointment of Lt. Gen. Abud Qanbar.

The appointment is highly significant because it is Maliki’s first public move after President Bush’s announcement that he was sending more troops to Iraq. The prime mission of those troops is to reduce violence in Baghdad, much of which is blamed on sectarian fighters.

As the Iraqi commander for the capital, Qanbar would play a central role in that campaign, and any ties he might have to sectarian groups could undermine the new U.S. effort.
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Maliki’s decision to push through his own choice for one of the country’s most sensitive military posts — and to reject another officer who was considered more qualified by the top U.S. commander in Iraq, Gen. George W. Casey — has renewed questions about the prime minister’s intentions.

“It’s a delicate situation,” said Mahmoud Othman, a Kurdish lawmaker who questioned the choice of Qanbar. “It’s very dangerous if it turns out that he has affiliations,” he said, naming Maliki’s political party and the anti-American Shiite Muslim cleric Muqtada Sadr.

As I wrote yesterday, I’m not so sure whether al-Maliki actually wants to stop the Shia militias.

Also: an interesting read at the Washington Post: Battling With Sadr for Iraqi Soldiers’ Hearts.

And another interesting read at the WaPo. It ain’t positive.

A few hours before another mission into the cauldron of Baghdad, Spec. Daniel Caldwell’s wife instant-messaged him Thursday morning. President Bush, Kelly wrote, wanted to send more than 20,000 U.S. troops and extend deployments in Iraq. Eight weeks pregnant, she was worried.

Caldwell, a tall, lean 20-year-old from Montesano, Wash., wondered whether he would miss the birth of his child. He walked outside and joined his comrades of Apache Company, 1st Battalion, 23rd Infantry Regiment, Stryker Brigade. They, too, had heard the news.

Moments before he stepped into his squad’s Stryker — a large, bathtub-shaped vehicle encased in a cage — Caldwell echoed a sentiment shared by many in his squad: “They’re kicking a dead horse here. The Iraqi army can’t stand up on their own.”

An important part of Bush’s plan is that “the Iraqi government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki can produce a well-disciplined, impartial army capable of taking the lead in securing Baghdad”.

American troops on the Iraqi army:

“We’re constantly being told that it’s not our fight. It is their fight,” said Sgt. Jose Reynoso, 24, of Yuma, Ariz., speaking of the Iraqi army. “But that’s not the case. Whenever we go and ask them for guys, they almost always say no, and we have to do the job ourselves.”

“You do have corruption problems among the ranks,” said Sgt. Justin Hill, 24, of Abilene Tex., the squad leader. “I don’t know what they can do about that. They have militias inside them. They are pretty much everywhere.”

An interesting, but grim as Hot Air puts it, read.

Some Iraqis, at least, seem to be happy with more U.S. troops, but – in the end – they have to do it themselves. They must stop relying on the U.S. forces.

Will that ever happen, or are the problems too big and too fundamental?

“The general feeling among us is we’re not really doing anything here,” Caldwell said. “We clear one neighborhood, then another one fires up. It’s an ongoing battle. It never ends.”

Lastly, also read Jason Steck’s post: Strategic Command.

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4 Comments

  1. derrick cho

    It is incorrect to say that the Sunnis can not win this battle. Those in Baghdad will have a hell of a time, but the Sunni’s have the martial traditions, if the Americans leave they will be geetting huge sums from the Saudis and others and our future interventins will likely be againt the Iranian allied Iraqi government.

    If e stay we probably get to fight both sides sooner or later with our logistics and all sorts of other key points stick in the middle of enemy territory. Dien Bien Phu seemed impossible not much earlier.

    The jihadist never had concerns about dead Sunni. They are revolutiionaries of the absolutist model. It has been no secret that they wish to explode Iraq into religious war which wil bring in the Sunni nations in a cleansing war against Shia and subject the corrupt governments of Sunni nations to revolutionary forces.

    Their primary desire is not and has never been to nuke New York with it’s reputation of lots of Jews (which is why Republicans and radical Muslims so hate it,) but to take over the middle east and the Islamic vastness, to position it as an empire, an empire based on purity of sdoul in which all secular humanism (something associated with Jews) is eliminated, something along the line of utopia as pictured by Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Bill Bennett and other stalwarts of the Republican party. Major differences being that Islam does not argue that the poor are responsible for their condition and the minimum wage is in opposition to God’s will.

  2. Mikkel

    I posted this in another thread on semi accident:
    I find this quote from the link telling and fear it perfectly sums up the situation: “This man who had spent the last three years fighting the Americans was now willing to talk to them, not because he wanted to make peace but because he saw the Americans as the lesser of two evils.�

    None of the groups (many of which form the government don’t forget) seem interested at genuine peace, only in an ebb and flow of violence in trying to gain the upper hand.

  3. {snark on} But finally we’re escalating our battle against Sadr by working with the Iraqi army and police, but both are heavily infiltrated by Sadr’s partisans — oh, yeah, that’s the majority in this new “democracy”. And we’re getting aggressive with Iran too, so they don’t help the militias fight the Sunnis and Al Qaeda. What? Wait. That’s who attacked us on 911–it’s all coming back to me. We want to get Al Qaeda at all costs. No, we want to protect against the Baathists and Saddam loyalists making trouble for Iran’s allies, the Shia. WTF side are we on? {/snark off}

    Sometimes when watching a football game in which I don’t care who wins, I’ll root for the offense, because it makes the game more exciting. In Iraq, we’re fighting with the defense, whichever side is being attacked. One day we fight the Mahdi army, the next day to defend them from the Sunnis.

    Since we’re on the subject of Iraq, I feel compelled to return to a point I’ve made several times. Bush’s crony contractors shortchanged the Iraqi security forces in order to line their own pockets. Now the president’s plan calls for our own forces to be embedded with the same units operating with antiquated weaponry and poorly armored vehicles. This issue is a time bomb that will detonate under the Republicans plan, unfortunately all too soon, because of unacceptable loss of American lives directly as a result of our own failures in “helping” Iraqi forces.

  4. Kim Ritter

    What occurs to me is that both sects know the war is unpopular here, and that eventually we will pick up and go home. The Sunnis probably fear wholesale genocide once that happens, so will not disarm or give up their allegiance to their militias. The Shiites know it will be easier to govern once we leave, as they can get rid of their opposition and will not have to share oil revenues or political power if they can wait us out. Some would see that as justification for staying there indefinitely-and I’m wondering if that’s Bush’s real plan.