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	<title>Comments on: Guess What Blog MSNBC&#8217;S Tucker Carlson Doesn&#8217;t Like? (UPDATED)</title>
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		<title>By: DAY0LOAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>DAY0LOAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 20:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in the form of higher interest rates</description>
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		<title>By: Tully</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tully</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Also, there is &lt;strong&gt;absolutely no violation of the Video Store Privacy act here&lt;/strong&gt;, so that talking point is out the window. Why donâ€™t some people actually read the original post over at Freelance Genius and then decide.&lt;/em&gt; 

Dead wrong. Even on a surface reading of the statute, he seems to have violated it. As an agent/employee of the video tape service provider he most definitely &lt;em&gt;knowingly and publicly disclosed personally identifiable information about a customer of the provider&lt;/em&gt;. [USC 18 Â§ 2710(b)1] The statute does not say how detailed that &quot;personally identifiable information&quot; must be. It doesn&#039;t require that you disclose their rentals or address. Nothing much more &lt;em&gt;personally identifiable&lt;/em&gt; than the name of a public figure. 

On one of the other blogs someone derided the offense as minor, saying it was a civil violation &quot;only&quot; punishable by a $2500 civil award. Even $2500 is a considerable sum to a small business, but that&#039;s a clear minimizing of the statute remedies, which allow for &lt;strong&gt;no less than&lt;/strong&gt; $2500 actual damages, &lt;strong&gt;plus&lt;/strong&gt; punitive damages, &lt;strong&gt;plus&lt;/strong&gt; attorney&#039;s fees and litigation costs, &lt;strong&gt;plus&lt;/strong&gt; &quot;such other preliminary and equitable relief as the court determines to be appropriate.&quot; That can really add up, especially to a small business.

Wikipedia says the offender is liable for &quot;up to&quot; $2500. They&#039;re wrong. That&#039;s the floor, not the ceiling. The ceiling is wide open. 

In short, regardless of Carlson&#039;s reaction or inbred asininity, Chuckles&#039; firing was copiously justified from the employer&#039;s position. All those making the libertarian arguments should remember who gets to pick up that legal tab--the employer. Chuckles made himself a major liability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Also, there is <strong>absolutely no violation of the Video Store Privacy act here</strong>, so that talking point is out the window. Why donâ€™t some people actually read the original post over at Freelance Genius and then decide.</em> </p>
<p>Dead wrong. Even on a surface reading of the statute, he seems to have violated it. As an agent/employee of the video tape service provider he most definitely <em>knowingly and publicly disclosed personally identifiable information about a customer of the provider</em>. [USC 18 Â§ 2710(b)1] The statute does not say how detailed that &#8220;personally identifiable information&#8221; must be. It doesn&#8217;t require that you disclose their rentals or address. Nothing much more <em>personally identifiable</em> than the name of a public figure. </p>
<p>On one of the other blogs someone derided the offense as minor, saying it was a civil violation &#8220;only&#8221; punishable by a $2500 civil award. Even $2500 is a considerable sum to a small business, but that&#8217;s a clear minimizing of the statute remedies, which allow for <strong>no less than</strong> $2500 actual damages, <strong>plus</strong> punitive damages, <strong>plus</strong> attorney&#8217;s fees and litigation costs, <strong>plus</strong> &#8220;such other preliminary and equitable relief as the court determines to be appropriate.&#8221; That can really add up, especially to a small business.</p>
<p>Wikipedia says the offender is liable for &#8220;up to&#8221; $2500. They&#8217;re wrong. That&#8217;s the floor, not the ceiling. The ceiling is wide open. </p>
<p>In short, regardless of Carlson&#8217;s reaction or inbred asininity, Chuckles&#8217; firing was copiously justified from the employer&#8217;s position. All those making the libertarian arguments should remember who gets to pick up that legal tab&#8211;the employer. Chuckles made himself a major liability.</p>
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		<title>By: Ginny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ginny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the librarian&#039;s official stance on this?  Given the uproar because the government wanted to be able to find out what suspected terrorists checked out books in public libraries, this seems a place for such groups to take a strong stand.

Tucker seems over defensive, but I haven&#039;t been stalked.  Chuckles seems immature.  Any service business would want to get rid of such an employee - what they have to sell (especially since Netflix is eating a lot of their lunches) is service.  Chuckles clearly doesn&#039;t understand that.  And probably doesn&#039;t care.  He&#039;ll just get another job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the librarian&#8217;s official stance on this?  Given the uproar because the government wanted to be able to find out what suspected terrorists checked out books in public libraries, this seems a place for such groups to take a strong stand.</p>
<p>Tucker seems over defensive, but I haven&#8217;t been stalked.  Chuckles seems immature.  Any service business would want to get rid of such an employee &#8211; what they have to sell (especially since Netflix is eating a lot of their lunches) is service.  Chuckles clearly doesn&#8217;t understand that.  And probably doesn&#8217;t care.  He&#8217;ll just get another job.</p>
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		<title>By: PatHMV</title>
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		<dc:creator>PatHMV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathy, if some random stranger publicly posted about me that he knew my address and considered me a &quot;Gigantic Cobagz&quot;, I would certainly be pretty ticked off and worried... particularly if the guy chose to go by the name &quot;Chuckles&quot; and at the same time made jokes about &quot;frozen urine treats&quot; for my home.

Having read all the aftermath, I&#039;m sure Chuckles didn&#039;t intend what he said to be a threat, and was sincere in his statement that he wouldn&#039;t disclose Carlson&#039;s address. But how is somebody like Carlson supposed to know that up front? There&#039;s a lot of crazy people in this world, and they make threats in a lot of different ways. We all know how to read &quot;nudge, nudge, wink, wink&quot;, don&#039;t we? If I said: &quot;Of course *I* would never &lt;i&gt;dream&lt;/i&gt; of going to [idiot liberal politician&#039;s] house and tossing frozen urine on it, even though that&#039;s exactly what he/she deserves&quot;, should that liberal politician not worry?

And if you want to talk about first impressions, Kathy, I&#039;d point out that nowhere did Chuckles ever suggest that Carlson was rude or inappropriate to him in their initial encounter. It was only Carlson&#039;s politics that led Chuckles to post that nasty comment about both Carlson and the woman with him. Chuckles could have simply apologized to Carlson when he came in, said he hadn&#039;t meant any harm but sees now how his actions could be misinterpreted. I note that Chuckles hasn&#039;t, from what I&#039;ve seen, described his own comments to Carlson when Carlson came back in. Did Carlson start out with his &quot;destroy you&quot; comment, or did he start out calmly, and Chuckles responded by telling him to go screw himself and standing on his &quot;first amendment rights&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathy, if some random stranger publicly posted about me that he knew my address and considered me a &#8220;Gigantic Cobagz&#8221;, I would certainly be pretty ticked off and worried&#8230; particularly if the guy chose to go by the name &#8220;Chuckles&#8221; and at the same time made jokes about &#8220;frozen urine treats&#8221; for my home.</p>
<p>Having read all the aftermath, I&#8217;m sure Chuckles didn&#8217;t intend what he said to be a threat, and was sincere in his statement that he wouldn&#8217;t disclose Carlson&#8217;s address. But how is somebody like Carlson supposed to know that up front? There&#8217;s a lot of crazy people in this world, and they make threats in a lot of different ways. We all know how to read &#8220;nudge, nudge, wink, wink&#8221;, don&#8217;t we? If I said: &#8220;Of course *I* would never <i>dream</i> of going to [idiot liberal politician's] house and tossing frozen urine on it, even though that&#8217;s exactly what he/she deserves&#8221;, should that liberal politician not worry?</p>
<p>And if you want to talk about first impressions, Kathy, I&#8217;d point out that nowhere did Chuckles ever suggest that Carlson was rude or inappropriate to him in their initial encounter. It was only Carlson&#8217;s politics that led Chuckles to post that nasty comment about both Carlson and the woman with him. Chuckles could have simply apologized to Carlson when he came in, said he hadn&#8217;t meant any harm but sees now how his actions could be misinterpreted. I note that Chuckles hasn&#8217;t, from what I&#8217;ve seen, described his own comments to Carlson when Carlson came back in. Did Carlson start out with his &#8220;destroy you&#8221; comment, or did he start out calmly, and Chuckles responded by telling him to go screw himself and standing on his &#8220;first amendment rights&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Argh! Read the guy&#039;s blog. He didn&#039;t recognize Tucker&#039;s name at first - so that rules out the &quot;hate&quot; alluded to above. 

In what I read as something like stream-of-consciousness, he says &quot;he could&quot; tell you what they rented &quot;if you really want to know.&quot; And he clearly says he can&#039;t share personal info like address. So he has not violated any law here.

Anyone who can read this post and say with a straight face that it is a &quot;threat&quot; is living on a different planet than I am.

However, Chuckles learned the hard way that zeros-and-ones are not confined to one&#039;s friends, even if that&#039;s who you&#039;re writing for ... well, not unless you block your blog from directories and search engines and such. 

I knew zippo about Tucker before this (I know the Jon Stewart interview, but I think of that as &quot;Fox&quot; not of Tucker) ... and care even less about him now than I did after Jon&#039;s interview in 2004. He is a jerk, but that&#039;s not against the law. Unfortunately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Argh! Read the guy&#8217;s blog. He didn&#8217;t recognize Tucker&#8217;s name at first &#8211; so that rules out the &#8220;hate&#8221; alluded to above. </p>
<p>In what I read as something like stream-of-consciousness, he says &#8220;he could&#8221; tell you what they rented &#8220;if you really want to know.&#8221; And he clearly says he can&#8217;t share personal info like address. So he has not violated any law here.</p>
<p>Anyone who can read this post and say with a straight face that it is a &#8220;threat&#8221; is living on a different planet than I am.</p>
<p>However, Chuckles learned the hard way that zeros-and-ones are not confined to one&#8217;s friends, even if that&#8217;s who you&#8217;re writing for &#8230; well, not unless you block your blog from directories and search engines and such. </p>
<p>I knew zippo about Tucker before this (I know the Jon Stewart interview, but I think of that as &#8220;Fox&#8221; not of Tucker) &#8230; and care even less about him now than I did after Jon&#8217;s interview in 2004. He is a jerk, but that&#8217;s not against the law. Unfortunately.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 08:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forget the privacy issue. If you run a service sector business, do you want your employees running around town making fun of your customers? Service sector businesses rely on their customers coming back and giving positive referrals to other potential customers.

If you own a business, you are free to sabotage it by acting like an idiot, provided you stay within the law, which this kid might have. But since it was not his business, it was not his place to create problems with a customer, all other issues aside. If management saw fit to dismiss him, they had the right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget the privacy issue. If you run a service sector business, do you want your employees running around town making fun of your customers? Service sector businesses rely on their customers coming back and giving positive referrals to other potential customers.</p>
<p>If you own a business, you are free to sabotage it by acting like an idiot, provided you stay within the law, which this kid might have. But since it was not his business, it was not his place to create problems with a customer, all other issues aside. If management saw fit to dismiss him, they had the right.</p>
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		<title>By: Stormy70</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stormy70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 04:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He is 28, not a kid. He got what he deserved for violating his employer&#039;s policy. This gets you fired in the real world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is 28, not a kid. He got what he deserved for violating his employer&#8217;s policy. This gets you fired in the real world.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Ritter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim Ritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 04:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think someone at MSNBC looked at bow-tie boy&#039;s low ratings and told him to take his two left feet and make a fool out of himself to try to win over new viewers. He did exactly that, but the ratings are still tanking. (maybe because he&#039;s  a sanctimonious prig, but that&#039;s strictly subjective)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think someone at MSNBC looked at bow-tie boy&#8217;s low ratings and told him to take his two left feet and make a fool out of himself to try to win over new viewers. He did exactly that, but the ratings are still tanking. (maybe because he&#8217;s  a sanctimonious prig, but that&#8217;s strictly subjective)</p>
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		<title>By: Tully</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tully</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 03:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL. But can he chew gum at the same time?</description>
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		<title>By: Seanny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seanny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 02:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanna know who thought Carlson should be on Dancing with the Stars.  From what I saw on the video, he&#039;s lucky he can even walk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanna know who thought Carlson should be on Dancing with the Stars.  From what I saw on the video, he&#8217;s lucky he can even walk.</p>
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		<title>By: Tully</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tully</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 01:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I think we hit the David v. Goliath criteria when Tucker got the kid fired. That was just petty and mean.&lt;/em&gt;

If I were Chuckle&#039;s boss I&#039;d likely have fired him also, without any added pressure, if the post had been brought to my attention. Chuckles made it an employment issue all by himself. Carlson was indeed petty and mean to push it after the post came down (assuming the accounts are correct) but that doesn&#039;t make Chuckles some kind of hero for being an immature dumbass in the first place. The offending quote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;I could tell you what he and his ridiculously wasped-out female companion (wife?) rented if you really want to know.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I would read that as &quot;Just ask, and I&#039;ll tell you.&quot; The applicable federal statute can be found &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00002710----000-.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. It reads in part:

&lt;em&gt;A video tape service provider &lt;strong&gt;who knowingly discloses, to any person, personally identifiable information&lt;/strong&gt; concerning any consumer of such provider shall be liable to the aggrieved person...&lt;/em&gt;

Yep, I&#039;d fire him, he&#039;s a major legal liability. Big jerk vs. little jerk, not David vs. Goliath. Neither of them has my sympathy at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I think we hit the David v. Goliath criteria when Tucker got the kid fired. That was just petty and mean.</em></p>
<p>If I were Chuckle&#8217;s boss I&#8217;d likely have fired him also, without any added pressure, if the post had been brought to my attention. Chuckles made it an employment issue all by himself. Carlson was indeed petty and mean to push it after the post came down (assuming the accounts are correct) but that doesn&#8217;t make Chuckles some kind of hero for being an immature dumbass in the first place. The offending quote:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I could tell you what he and his ridiculously wasped-out female companion (wife?) rented if you really want to know.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I would read that as &#8220;Just ask, and I&#8217;ll tell you.&#8221; The applicable federal statute can be found <a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00002710----000-.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>. It reads in part:</p>
<p><em>A video tape service provider <strong>who knowingly discloses, to any person, personally identifiable information</strong> concerning any consumer of such provider shall be liable to the aggrieved person&#8230;</em></p>
<p>Yep, I&#8217;d fire him, he&#8217;s a major legal liability. Big jerk vs. little jerk, not David vs. Goliath. Neither of them has my sympathy at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: Libby Spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Libby Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 00:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anybody who reads the post in context and calls it a threat is grasping at straws. The only one who made any real threats here is Tucker and Chuckles might consider taking his own action on that. But neither is Chuckles entirely in the clear. When he disclosed Tuck&#039;s name as having opened an account, I think he breached a reasonable expectation of privacy between a vendor and a customer and unfortunately I think his employer had grounds to fire him for it. Had he said something like &quot;a certain bow tie wearing dorkhead that works for MSNBC&quot; it would have been better.  

It was a silly mistake, but the kid took the post down right away, maybe ten people had seen it, and if Tucker hadn&#039;t made a federal case out of it, it would have been a passing joke among a handful of friends. Now the whole world knows Tucker is a whining idiot who is desperate to get press any way he can to boost what I understand are his dismal ratings. 

Not to mention, if Tucker had let it go Chuckles would still have a job. I don&#039;t know what the going rate for psuedo-pundits is, but I figure old Tuck&#039;s got to be making at least in the low six figures. I doubt Chuckles was getting much above minimum wage. I think we hit the David v. Goliath criteria when Tucker got the kid fired. That was just petty and mean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody who reads the post in context and calls it a threat is grasping at straws. The only one who made any real threats here is Tucker and Chuckles might consider taking his own action on that. But neither is Chuckles entirely in the clear. When he disclosed Tuck&#8217;s name as having opened an account, I think he breached a reasonable expectation of privacy between a vendor and a customer and unfortunately I think his employer had grounds to fire him for it. Had he said something like &#8220;a certain bow tie wearing dorkhead that works for MSNBC&#8221; it would have been better.  </p>
<p>It was a silly mistake, but the kid took the post down right away, maybe ten people had seen it, and if Tucker hadn&#8217;t made a federal case out of it, it would have been a passing joke among a handful of friends. Now the whole world knows Tucker is a whining idiot who is desperate to get press any way he can to boost what I understand are his dismal ratings. </p>
<p>Not to mention, if Tucker had let it go Chuckles would still have a job. I don&#8217;t know what the going rate for psuedo-pundits is, but I figure old Tuck&#8217;s got to be making at least in the low six figures. I doubt Chuckles was getting much above minimum wage. I think we hit the David v. Goliath criteria when Tucker got the kid fired. That was just petty and mean.</p>
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		<title>By: PatHMV</title>
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		<dc:creator>PatHMV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 23:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Annie, who here said that &quot;Chuckles&quot; actually gave out his personal information? I was quite careful to say that he had offered to give out his legally protected video information, while letting the world know that he had &lt;i&gt;access&lt;/i&gt; to Carlson&#039;s address (and presumably credit card number). And he did this not because Carlson was rude to him at the time, but just because he doesn&#039;t like Carlson&#039;s politics.

If some random stranger passed you on the street and said &quot;I think you&#039;re an asshole and I know where you live&quot;, would you be just a tad nervous? If YOU went to a video store, and the clerk told you, &quot;I heard you&#039;re the bitch who slept with my sister&#039;s boyfriend, and now I know where you live&quot;, wouldn&#039;t you be more than a bit upset at the clerk? All of you defending &quot;Chuckles&quot; seem to be of the opinion that because Carlson is an arrogant jerk on TV, that he&#039;s not entitled to the same common courtesy as the rest of us when interacting with store clerks and others outside of his job. That&#039;s not right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Annie, who here said that &#8220;Chuckles&#8221; actually gave out his personal information? I was quite careful to say that he had offered to give out his legally protected video information, while letting the world know that he had <i>access</i> to Carlson&#8217;s address (and presumably credit card number). And he did this not because Carlson was rude to him at the time, but just because he doesn&#8217;t like Carlson&#8217;s politics.</p>
<p>If some random stranger passed you on the street and said &#8220;I think you&#8217;re an asshole and I know where you live&#8221;, would you be just a tad nervous? If YOU went to a video store, and the clerk told you, &#8220;I heard you&#8217;re the bitch who slept with my sister&#8217;s boyfriend, and now I know where you live&#8221;, wouldn&#8217;t you be more than a bit upset at the clerk? All of you defending &#8220;Chuckles&#8221; seem to be of the opinion that because Carlson is an arrogant jerk on TV, that he&#8217;s not entitled to the same common courtesy as the rest of us when interacting with store clerks and others outside of his job. That&#8217;s not right.</p>
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		<title>By: Pinko Punko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pinko Punko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 23:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I work at starbucks, can I blog about serving someone coffee?  If I work at a video store and I do blog about someone coming into the score, it is an implicit fact that I have their personal information because of my job description.  Let&#039;s say I only say &quot;I saw Tucker Carlson comin into my work&quot; but have previously stated that I work at a video store, can I now not talk about it?  Also, there is absolutely no violation of the Video Store Privacy act here, so that talking point is out the window.  Why don&#039;t some people actually read the original post over at Freelance Genius and then decide.  

I will also say that there appears to be actual evidence that Tucker did and said everything the clerk alleged, because Tucker admitted to being very aggressive.  The only real breach here would be the fact that Tucker admitted the post is what pissed him off, and that post is not threatening in any way, and he just lied about it to the press.  So who&#039;s being slandered here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I work at starbucks, can I blog about serving someone coffee?  If I work at a video store and I do blog about someone coming into the score, it is an implicit fact that I have their personal information because of my job description.  Let&#8217;s say I only say &#8220;I saw Tucker Carlson comin into my work&#8221; but have previously stated that I work at a video store, can I now not talk about it?  Also, there is absolutely no violation of the Video Store Privacy act here, so that talking point is out the window.  Why don&#8217;t some people actually read the original post over at Freelance Genius and then decide.  </p>
<p>I will also say that there appears to be actual evidence that Tucker did and said everything the clerk alleged, because Tucker admitted to being very aggressive.  The only real breach here would be the fact that Tucker admitted the post is what pissed him off, and that post is not threatening in any way, and he just lied about it to the press.  So who&#8217;s being slandered here?</p>
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		<title>By: annieangel</title>
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		<dc:creator>annieangel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 21:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuckles did not reveal any of Tuckbags information.  He also took down the post when Tuckbag threatened to &quot;fucking destroy&quot; him.  If was AFTER he took the post down that Tuckbag got poor Chuckles fired and began to have Chuckle&#039;s friends who still work at the store harassed.

Chuckles did nothing wrong.  He tried to make the Tuckbag happy by taking down the post, but that wasn&#039;t good enough for the Tuckbag.  The Tuckbag wanted to &quot;fucking destroy&quot; Chuckles.

He also did nothing to get fired for.  He did not say the name of the video store, or any information other than that Tucker had opened an account there.  That is the ONLY information he gave on his blog.

For those of you who seem to think he gave out Tuckbag&#039;s personal information, you are WRONG.  123% wrong.  He gave out nothing.

Please check your facts before posting in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuckles did not reveal any of Tuckbags information.  He also took down the post when Tuckbag threatened to &#8220;fucking destroy&#8221; him.  If was AFTER he took the post down that Tuckbag got poor Chuckles fired and began to have Chuckle&#8217;s friends who still work at the store harassed.</p>
<p>Chuckles did nothing wrong.  He tried to make the Tuckbag happy by taking down the post, but that wasn&#8217;t good enough for the Tuckbag.  The Tuckbag wanted to &#8220;fucking destroy&#8221; Chuckles.</p>
<p>He also did nothing to get fired for.  He did not say the name of the video store, or any information other than that Tucker had opened an account there.  That is the ONLY information he gave on his blog.</p>
<p>For those of you who seem to think he gave out Tuckbag&#8217;s personal information, you are WRONG.  123% wrong.  He gave out nothing.</p>
<p>Please check your facts before posting in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Tully</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tully</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 21:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more note: This ain&#039;t Daved vs. Goliath. In David vs. Goliath, there was a good guy to root for. I don&#039;t see a good guy here anywhere. Just a couple of power-mismatched morons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more note: This ain&#8217;t Daved vs. Goliath. In David vs. Goliath, there was a good guy to root for. I don&#8217;t see a good guy here anywhere. Just a couple of power-mismatched morons.</p>
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		<title>By: Tully</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tully</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 21:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What PatHMV said above. The firing was righteous, and if he were my employee he&#039;d have to be a damn good one to avoid it. Barring active in-process legal action of law enforcement investigation, you do NOT divulge or threaten to divulge personal details about customers. As Ed Morrisey said: &lt;em&gt;Free speech does not release one from responsibility for what they say and write.&lt;/em&gt;

That said, don&#039;t expect any sympathy for Carlson from me. He&#039;s a windy small-minded pompous gasbag, a size twelve ego in a size three soul. (I&#039;m being generous today.) I&#039;m not a big Jon Stewart fan at all, but when Stewart ripped Carlson a new one on live TV, he earned a permanent place in my heart. It was a glorious example of why you do not, EVER, try to one-up a professional at his own game. And target Carlson earned every bit of the hilarious take-down abuse he received from Stewart. He practically begged for it, trying to mouse-trap a professional comedian into playing straight man for him. Dumb with a capital D.

I&#039;m pretty sure that&#039;s not an &lt;em&gt;actual&lt;/em&gt; picture of Carlson, because I don&#039;t see a bow tie in the appropriate spot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What PatHMV said above. The firing was righteous, and if he were my employee he&#8217;d have to be a damn good one to avoid it. Barring active in-process legal action of law enforcement investigation, you do NOT divulge or threaten to divulge personal details about customers. As Ed Morrisey said: <em>Free speech does not release one from responsibility for what they say and write.</em></p>
<p>That said, don&#8217;t expect any sympathy for Carlson from me. He&#8217;s a windy small-minded pompous gasbag, a size twelve ego in a size three soul. (I&#8217;m being generous today.) I&#8217;m not a big Jon Stewart fan at all, but when Stewart ripped Carlson a new one on live TV, he earned a permanent place in my heart. It was a glorious example of why you do not, EVER, try to one-up a professional at his own game. And target Carlson earned every bit of the hilarious take-down abuse he received from Stewart. He practically begged for it, trying to mouse-trap a professional comedian into playing straight man for him. Dumb with a capital D.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure that&#8217;s not an <em>actual</em> picture of Carlson, because I don&#8217;t see a bow tie in the appropriate spot.</p>
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		<title>By: carpeicthus</title>
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		<dc:creator>carpeicthus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 20:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m also with Carlson, as much as that pains me to say. Carlson HAS had issues with stalking, largely thanks to the thugs at Fox News who posted his home number on national TV. Of course, Fox should be fired, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m also with Carlson, as much as that pains me to say. Carlson HAS had issues with stalking, largely thanks to the thugs at Fox News who posted his home number on national TV. Of course, Fox should be fired, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Ritter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim Ritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t see where in his blog the clerk mentioned TC&#039;s address or the videos he rented. Imo, having the clerk fired is a bit of a diva-like overreaction on the part of the &quot;cable star&quot; who is not the subject of that wonderful graphic in the post. No, I didn&#039;t mean the U-tube of TC on Dancing with the Stars, either, lol.

BTW, if Tucker is from San Francisco, does that mean he has the same values as the conservative media&#039;s been tagging Speaker Pelosi with?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t see where in his blog the clerk mentioned TC&#8217;s address or the videos he rented. Imo, having the clerk fired is a bit of a diva-like overreaction on the part of the &#8220;cable star&#8221; who is not the subject of that wonderful graphic in the post. No, I didn&#8217;t mean the U-tube of TC on Dancing with the Stars, either, lol.</p>
<p>BTW, if Tucker is from San Francisco, does that mean he has the same values as the conservative media&#8217;s been tagging Speaker Pelosi with?</p>
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		<title>By: skippy</title>
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		<dc:creator>skippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;free speech allows him to say what he said about carlson without being arrested or ordered to pay money. free speech does not allow him to disclose carlsonâ€™s private video rental records as he offered to do.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

yes, free speech does allow him to offer it, but actually disclosing it is another story, and i&#039;m not sure &quot;free speech&quot; actually would be relevant in that case, either.

don&#039;t be disengenuous, and twist the words of the blogger.  he said &quot;i could tell you what he and his ridiculously wasped-out female companion (wife?) rented if you really want to know.&quot;  

you are acting as if he actually &lt;em&gt;did&lt;/em&gt; tell us.  

it&#039;s obvious to all except the joke-impaired (ie, the right) that he was being sarcastic.

if he told us what tucker &quot;i hardly know her&quot; carlson rented, then your righteous indignation might have some basis in reality.

but, as usual, the right is angry and up in the air about woulda-coulda-shoulda (&#039;it&#039;s irresponsible not to speculate what the blogger would have told us&#039;) instead of what actually is.

how&#039;s that rapture/end of days thing coming anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>free speech allows him to say what he said about carlson without being arrested or ordered to pay money. free speech does not allow him to disclose carlsonâ€™s private video rental records as he offered to do.</p></blockquote>
<p>yes, free speech does allow him to offer it, but actually disclosing it is another story, and i&#8217;m not sure &#8220;free speech&#8221; actually would be relevant in that case, either.</p>
<p>don&#8217;t be disengenuous, and twist the words of the blogger.  he said &#8220;i could tell you what he and his ridiculously wasped-out female companion (wife?) rented if you really want to know.&#8221;  </p>
<p>you are acting as if he actually <em>did</em> tell us.  </p>
<p>it&#8217;s obvious to all except the joke-impaired (ie, the right) that he was being sarcastic.</p>
<p>if he told us what tucker &#8220;i hardly know her&#8221; carlson rented, then your righteous indignation might have some basis in reality.</p>
<p>but, as usual, the right is angry and up in the air about woulda-coulda-shoulda (&#8217;it&#8217;s irresponsible not to speculate what the blogger would have told us&#8217;) instead of what actually is.</p>
<p>how&#8217;s that rapture/end of days thing coming anyway?</p>
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