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		<title>By: Pyst</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10232/has-bush-already-launched-another-war/comment-page-1/#comment-43198</link>
		<dc:creator>Pyst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 00:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL Lynx that description of yourself on the issue was priceless. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL Lynx that description of yourself on the issue was priceless. <img src='http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kim Ritter</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10232/has-bush-already-launched-another-war/comment-page-1/#comment-43105</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Ritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 20:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lynx- I agree that it would be a very bad idea, but I&#039;ve always believed from my reading that Iran was supposed to be the Axis of Evil that fell after Iraq. We were supposed to be in Iraq for a few months, and then move on to Iran. The fact that its a complicated move with horrible repercussions has occurred to most analysts, but there were also complicated repercussions with Iraq, and that did not stop Bush. I think he and Cheney were mentally unhinged by 9/11 and Katrina, lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynx- I agree that it would be a very bad idea, but I&#8217;ve always believed from my reading that Iran was supposed to be the Axis of Evil that fell after Iraq. We were supposed to be in Iraq for a few months, and then move on to Iran. The fact that its a complicated move with horrible repercussions has occurred to most analysts, but there were also complicated repercussions with Iraq, and that did not stop Bush. I think he and Cheney were mentally unhinged by 9/11 and Katrina, lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynx</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10232/has-bush-already-launched-another-war/comment-page-1/#comment-43030</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 18:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kim, I have the feeling that that lobby has been preassuring to a greater or lesser extent for war against Iran for years and years, why would now be different? I dunno, maybe that could contribute, but I have my doubts about the quantity of individual power Bush actually has. Or maybe I just hope he doesn&#039;t really have his finger on the button, so I can sleep at night.

War with Iran would be a very, very, very baaaaad idea. In the best of cases (if we had no OTHER wars to deal with) it would be complicated, and would have to be based on REAL evidence of an actual or imminent attack. There must be Republicans out there that know that this would be, in addition for terrible for the country, very bad for the party, and would think they are trying to make their voices heard as well.

Pyst, you&#039;re optimism is refreshing. Unfortunately, I&#039;m fairly certain Bush could propose wiping out the entire Muslim world with nukes and interning every Muslim American and Laura would break out the pom-poms. That&#039;s just how extremists are. I&#039;m fairly hard on Islamist issues, but I&#039;m a puffy sugar-coated tye-dye liberal on the matter compared to her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim, I have the feeling that that lobby has been preassuring to a greater or lesser extent for war against Iran for years and years, why would now be different? I dunno, maybe that could contribute, but I have my doubts about the quantity of individual power Bush actually has. Or maybe I just hope he doesn&#8217;t really have his finger on the button, so I can sleep at night.</p>
<p>War with Iran would be a very, very, very baaaaad idea. In the best of cases (if we had no OTHER wars to deal with) it would be complicated, and would have to be based on REAL evidence of an actual or imminent attack. There must be Republicans out there that know that this would be, in addition for terrible for the country, very bad for the party, and would think they are trying to make their voices heard as well.</p>
<p>Pyst, you&#8217;re optimism is refreshing. Unfortunately, I&#8217;m fairly certain Bush could propose wiping out the entire Muslim world with nukes and interning every Muslim American and Laura would break out the pom-poms. That&#8217;s just how extremists are. I&#8217;m fairly hard on Islamist issues, but I&#8217;m a puffy sugar-coated tye-dye liberal on the matter compared to her.</p>
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		<title>By: Pyst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pyst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 18:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really staring to hope Laura is being sarcastic.

If Bush does this he&#039;s been put on notice as of yesturday what the outcome will be....impeachment. Biden hinted at it, and also let on that there are enough congressmen left and right, already privately talking about this very subject in regards to this story to inact the measure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really staring to hope Laura is being sarcastic.</p>
<p>If Bush does this he&#8217;s been put on notice as of yesturday what the outcome will be&#8230;.impeachment. Biden hinted at it, and also let on that there are enough congressmen left and right, already privately talking about this very subject in regards to this story to inact the measure.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 17:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Iranian regime and its nuclear ambitions need to be taken down. If that in fact is Bush&#039;s plan, then good for him. I&#039;m glad to see he&#039;s not caving in to the pressure to adopt the ridiculously absurd baker commission report recommendations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Iranian regime and its nuclear ambitions need to be taken down. If that in fact is Bush&#8217;s plan, then good for him. I&#8217;m glad to see he&#8217;s not caving in to the pressure to adopt the ridiculously absurd baker commission report recommendations.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The British found no evidence of official Iranian smuggling in the South. They patrolled the desert and marsh and found - NADA. The Cheney OSP crowd is doing it again. To bad his daughter isn&#039;t there to help the spin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The British found no evidence of official Iranian smuggling in the South. They patrolled the desert and marsh and found &#8211; NADA. The Cheney OSP crowd is doing it again. To bad his daughter isn&#8217;t there to help the spin.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The British claimed that the Iranians were supplying weapons in the South. They  closed a base and patrolled the desert and marsh in the South to try and find these networks. The results - no organized smuggling of arms - ZERO.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/24/AR2006082401917.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WP Article 1&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/03/AR2006100301577_pf.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WP Article 2&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;British Find No Evidence Of Arms Traffic From Iran

ON THE IRAQ-IRAN BORDER -- Since late August, British commandos in the deserts of far southeastern Iraq have been testing one of the most serious charges leveled by the United States against Iran: that Iran is secretly supplying weapons, parts, funding and training for attacks on U.S.-led forces in Iraq.

A few hundred British troops living out of nothing more than their cut-down Land Rovers and light armored vehicles have taken to the desert in the start of what British officers said would be months of patrols aimed at finding the illicit weapons trafficking from Iran, or any sign of it.

There&#039;s just one thing.

&quot;I suspect there&#039;s nothing out there,&quot; the commander, Lt. Col. David Labouchere, said last month, speaking at an overnight camp near the border. &quot;And I intend to prove it.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It&#039;s 2002 all over again, will the MSM and the public buy into the &#039;cherry pickin&#039; again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The British claimed that the Iranians were supplying weapons in the South. They  closed a base and patrolled the desert and marsh in the South to try and find these networks. The results &#8211; no organized smuggling of arms &#8211; ZERO.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/24/AR2006082401917.html" rel="nofollow">WP Article 1</a><br />
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/03/AR2006100301577_pf.html" rel="nofollow">WP Article 2</a></p>
<blockquote><p>British Find No Evidence Of Arms Traffic From Iran</p>
<p>ON THE IRAQ-IRAN BORDER &#8212; Since late August, British commandos in the deserts of far southeastern Iraq have been testing one of the most serious charges leveled by the United States against Iran: that Iran is secretly supplying weapons, parts, funding and training for attacks on U.S.-led forces in Iraq.</p>
<p>A few hundred British troops living out of nothing more than their cut-down Land Rovers and light armored vehicles have taken to the desert in the start of what British officers said would be months of patrols aimed at finding the illicit weapons trafficking from Iran, or any sign of it.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s just one thing.</p>
<p>&#8220;I suspect there&#8217;s nothing out there,&#8221; the commander, Lt. Col. David Labouchere, said last month, speaking at an overnight camp near the border. &#8220;And I intend to prove it.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s 2002 all over again, will the MSM and the public buy into the &#8216;cherry pickin&#8217; again?</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last year the British accused the Iranians of supplying militias with weapons. They left a base and patrolled the border to find the weapons. The results - the British could find no offical Iranians supplying weapons.
&lt;blockquote&gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/24/AR2006082401917.html
Maj. Charlie Burbridge, a British military spokesman, said the last of 1,200 troops left Camp Abu Naji, just outside Amarah, at noon Thursday, after several days of heavy mortar and rocket fire by a local militia, which local residents identified as the Sadr-controlled Mahdi Army. Adopting tactics used by a British special forces unit in North Africa during World War II, 600 of the soldiers plan to slip soon into the marshlands and deserts of eastern Maysan in an attempt to secure the Iranian border.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/03/AR2006100301577_pf.html
British Find No Evidence Of Arms Traffic From Iran

ON THE IRAQ-IRAN BORDER -- Since late August, British commandos in the deserts of far southeastern Iraq have been testing one of the most serious charges leveled by the United States against Iran: that Iran is secretly supplying weapons, parts, funding and training for attacks on U.S.-led forces in Iraq.

A few hundred British troops living out of nothing more than their cut-down Land Rovers and light armored vehicles have taken to the desert in the start of what British officers said would be months of patrols aimed at finding the illicit weapons trafficking from Iran, or any sign of it.

There&#039;s just one thing.

&quot;I suspect there&#039;s nothing out there,&quot; the commander, Lt. Col. David Labouchere, said last month, speaking at an overnight camp near the border. &quot;And I intend to prove it.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

W and Condi are selling a lie just like WMD&#039;s and al-Qaeda in Iraq. This time the press and public won&#039;t buy into the propaganda - lets hope W doesn&#039;t attack anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last year the British accused the Iranians of supplying militias with weapons. They left a base and patrolled the border to find the weapons. The results &#8211; the British could find no offical Iranians supplying weapons.</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/24/AR2006082401917.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/24/AR2006082401917.html</a><br />
Maj. Charlie Burbridge, a British military spokesman, said the last of 1,200 troops left Camp Abu Naji, just outside Amarah, at noon Thursday, after several days of heavy mortar and rocket fire by a local militia, which local residents identified as the Sadr-controlled Mahdi Army. Adopting tactics used by a British special forces unit in North Africa during World War II, 600 of the soldiers plan to slip soon into the marshlands and deserts of eastern Maysan in an attempt to secure the Iranian border.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/03/AR2006100301577_pf.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/03/AR2006100301577_pf.html</a><br />
British Find No Evidence Of Arms Traffic From Iran</p>
<p>ON THE IRAQ-IRAN BORDER &#8212; Since late August, British commandos in the deserts of far southeastern Iraq have been testing one of the most serious charges leveled by the United States against Iran: that Iran is secretly supplying weapons, parts, funding and training for attacks on U.S.-led forces in Iraq.</p>
<p>A few hundred British troops living out of nothing more than their cut-down Land Rovers and light armored vehicles have taken to the desert in the start of what British officers said would be months of patrols aimed at finding the illicit weapons trafficking from Iran, or any sign of it.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s just one thing.</p>
<p>&#8220;I suspect there&#8217;s nothing out there,&#8221; the commander, Lt. Col. David Labouchere, said last month, speaking at an overnight camp near the border. &#8220;And I intend to prove it.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>W and Condi are selling a lie just like WMD&#8217;s and al-Qaeda in Iraq. This time the press and public won&#8217;t buy into the propaganda &#8211; lets hope W doesn&#8217;t attack anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: carpeicthus</title>
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		<dc:creator>carpeicthus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush would have to be insane to do that -- so it&#039;s a virtual certainty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush would have to be insane to do that &#8212; so it&#8217;s a virtual certainty.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Ritter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim Ritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lynx- What about the Israeli lobby and remaining neocons who have been urging Bush to take out Iran&#039;s nuclear sites, and weaken their support of Hezbollah before he leaves office? I&#039;ve heard a lot of chatter about how he might be the last president with the political will to get this done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynx- What about the Israeli lobby and remaining neocons who have been urging Bush to take out Iran&#8217;s nuclear sites, and weaken their support of Hezbollah before he leaves office? I&#8217;ve heard a lot of chatter about how he might be the last president with the political will to get this done.</p>
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		<title>By: Clem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Steve thinks he&#039;s working with the Japanese and trading the Afghanistan secret war for the one, now, in Syria and Iran?  It&#039;s all dems making money.  Some even trace their families and servie to Kennedy!  I thought it was supposed to be like Vietnam or did they trade for Iraq?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Steve thinks he&#8217;s working with the Japanese and trading the Afghanistan secret war for the one, now, in Syria and Iran?  It&#8217;s all dems making money.  Some even trace their families and servie to Kennedy!  I thought it was supposed to be like Vietnam or did they trade for Iraq?</p>
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		<title>By: Lynx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 10:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;are going to clone the approach used to get the U.S. into Iraq and go after Iran and Afghanistan.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m guessing you mean Iran and Syria, since we are already in Afghanistan.

I find this a little hard to swallow. It seems imposible to me that Bush would risk war with Iran AND Syria for the sake of....what? I do understand the need to get rid of supply networks and the frustration of respecting borders when the enemy doesn&#039;t, but the posibility of full out war with these countries cannot be contemplated. Forget 20.000, we&#039;d need at least half of our armed forces to handle (if we could) Iran Syria AND Iraq. We&#039;d have to use large scale bombings, with the resultant very high civilian deaths, which would kill any and all support we might have in the world. Even England wouldn&#039;t stand by us then.

I know the posibility of such a war is small, but if there&#039;s any adminitration willing to casually play with the posibility it&#039;s this one. They&#039;re playing with matches in a puddle of gasoline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>are going to clone the approach used to get the U.S. into Iraq and go after Iran and Afghanistan.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing you mean Iran and Syria, since we are already in Afghanistan.</p>
<p>I find this a little hard to swallow. It seems imposible to me that Bush would risk war with Iran AND Syria for the sake of&#8230;.what? I do understand the need to get rid of supply networks and the frustration of respecting borders when the enemy doesn&#8217;t, but the posibility of full out war with these countries cannot be contemplated. Forget 20.000, we&#8217;d need at least half of our armed forces to handle (if we could) Iran Syria AND Iraq. We&#8217;d have to use large scale bombings, with the resultant very high civilian deaths, which would kill any and all support we might have in the world. Even England wouldn&#8217;t stand by us then.</p>
<p>I know the posibility of such a war is small, but if there&#8217;s any adminitration willing to casually play with the posibility it&#8217;s this one. They&#8217;re playing with matches in a puddle of gasoline.</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 09:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Steve Clemons, who has a lot of Washington insider contacts and is usually a very reliable source, says that, there must be something to it. Where there&#039;s smoke there&#039;s fire...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Steve Clemons, who has a lot of Washington insider contacts and is usually a very reliable source, says that, there must be something to it. Where there&#8217;s smoke there&#8217;s fire&#8230;</p>
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