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		<title>By: Gray</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10207/note-if-you-linked-to-our-post/comment-page-1/#comment-42679</link>
		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 19:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>???
Something is rotten in the state of Wordpress...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>???<br />
Something is rotten in the state of Wordpress&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10207/note-if-you-linked-to-our-post/comment-page-1/#comment-42649</link>
		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 18:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greeny, actually I posted the test before 8:32, so I guess it was in that moderation queue and someone approved it manually. And now the system again won&#039;t let me write it with &#039;o&#039;. Question remains, why does writing &#039;b00ker&#039; lead to a post being withheld???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greeny, actually I posted the test before 8:32, so I guess it was in that moderation queue and someone approved it manually. And now the system again won&#8217;t let me write it with &#8216;o&#8217;. Question remains, why does writing &#8216;b00ker&#8217; lead to a post being withheld???</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10207/note-if-you-linked-to-our-post/comment-page-1/#comment-42648</link>
		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 18:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greeny, actually I posted the test before 8:32, so I guess it was in that moderation queue and someone approved it manually. Question remains, why does writing &#039;booker&#039; lead to a post being moderated???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greeny, actually I posted the test before 8:32, so I guess it was in that moderation queue and someone approved it manually. Question remains, why does writing &#8216;booker&#8217; lead to a post being moderated???</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10207/note-if-you-linked-to-our-post/comment-page-1/#comment-42646</link>
		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey! They fixed it! Thx Joe!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey! They fixed it! Thx Joe!</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10207/note-if-you-linked-to-our-post/comment-page-1/#comment-42632</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yep, no problem with that word either</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yep, no problem with that word either</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10207/note-if-you-linked-to-our-post/comment-page-1/#comment-42631</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yep, booker b00ker, no problem</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yep, booker b00ker, no problem</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10207/note-if-you-linked-to-our-post/comment-page-1/#comment-42628</link>
		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Test 

Booker!</description>
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<p>Booker!</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10207/note-if-you-linked-to-our-post/comment-page-1/#comment-42613</link>
		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I have thrown every obscenity at it and it doesnâ€™t block anything&quot;

Have you tried &#039;b00ker&#039;, too? :D

(low, female voices in the background: &#039;he said &#039;b00ker&#039;! Stone him, stone him!&#039;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I have thrown every obscenity at it and it doesnâ€™t block anything&#8221;</p>
<p>Have you tried &#8216;b00ker&#8217;, too? <img src='http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(low, female voices in the background: &#8216;he said &#8216;b00ker&#8217;! Stone him, stone him!&#8217;)</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10207/note-if-you-linked-to-our-post/comment-page-1/#comment-42586</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it&#039;s Wordpress. Pehaps it&#039;s how you have it set up. Though &lt;a href=&quot;http://greendreams.wordpress.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;GreenDreams &lt;/a&gt;is on wordpress.com, I also manage 3 other blogs on which WordPress is installed on 2 different servers. I have thrown every obscenity at it and it doesn&#039;t block anything (Akismet has nabbed some harmless comments but for the most part does a great job). No one has ever left an obscene comment (except me, to check this), but I&#039;d just delete it if they did. We&#039;re adults here. Is it possible to turn off the filter entirely and see if you have a problem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s Wordpress. Pehaps it&#8217;s how you have it set up. Though <a href="http://greendreams.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">GreenDreams </a>is on wordpress.com, I also manage 3 other blogs on which WordPress is installed on 2 different servers. I have thrown every obscenity at it and it doesn&#8217;t block anything (Akismet has nabbed some harmless comments but for the most part does a great job). No one has ever left an obscene comment (except me, to check this), but I&#8217;d just delete it if they did. We&#8217;re adults here. Is it possible to turn off the filter entirely and see if you have a problem?</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 10:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and btw, don&#039;t just answer that I shouldn&#039;t post my complaint here, but at the Wordpress forum. I did. Nobody of those wP guys was interested in any way. WP is a system from bloggers for bloggers, nobody cares for the &#039;customers&#039; view. Needless to say, I don&#039;t think that&#039;s a good approach. If you&#039;re interested in the feedback from your readers, it isn&#039;t a smart choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and btw, don&#8217;t just answer that I shouldn&#8217;t post my complaint here, but at the Wordpress forum. I did. Nobody of those wP guys was interested in any way. WP is a system from bloggers for bloggers, nobody cares for the &#8216;customers&#8217; view. Needless to say, I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s a good approach. If you&#8217;re interested in the feedback from your readers, it isn&#8217;t a smart choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 10:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with Wordpress is, it won&#039;t give the user a feedback when it blocks his comment out of any reason. For the commenter, this simply looks as if there are network problems, when in fact he used a word on th filter list or got manually banned by a mod. Totally annoying! And then there&#039;s the dishonest method of the &#039;moderation queue&#039;. The system pretends towards the commenter that his post has been published, when in fact he and the mod are the only ones that may see it. Again, this happens without giving any feedback. Also, the system may automatically block a commenter when he repeatedly tries to get his post through (which may happen when he thinks there are network problems because of the missing feedback). Lastly, a mayor problem with Wordpress is that it gives moderators a lot of power, put has no mechanism whatever for the siteowner to check what the mods are doing. No log, no messages about commenters being blocked, no nothing. You just have to trust your people, even though not all will be up to the task. Just like (in)famous TRex of Firedoglake, who may be a witty, snarky blogger but a very ugly alter ego as a mod:

&quot; &quot;Oh, Jurassic Pork,
You&#039;re HILARIOUS!!
I would almost think you were serious.
A note: In the moderation queue, no one can hear you scream.

Jane will never see your comment. She&#039;s in L.A. tonight partying with Valerie and Joe Wilson, R.E.M., and Green Day and I am going to delete it long before she ever sees it.
You are a sad, sad little man.
Hope that hiatus from blogging is working out for you. You were never meant for our line of work.

Ta taaaaaaaaaa,
TRex&quot;

Well, I know Jurassicpork from several comment threads at Americablog and elsewhere. He isn&#039;t a troll, but a reasonable guy, holding quite unextremist opinions. This is what he got for disagreeing with the &#039;moderator&#039; TRex at Wordpress-powered site FDL. 

Joe, I think WP may look nice for bloggers, but it ignores the needs and wishes of an important part of the &#039;customers&#039;, the commenters. Can&#039;t you use another software for the comment section? WP is an accident waiting to happen for commenters.

Btw, I tested the &#039;B00ker&#039; bug at another Wordpress site. No problems there. Check tf manual, there must be some kind of &#039;banned&#039; words list in WP and you or one of your crew accidentally inserted &#039;B00ker&#039; in it. Or isn&#039;t it a bug, but a feature, and you simply hate the TV series starring Richard Grieko???
:P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with Wordpress is, it won&#8217;t give the user a feedback when it blocks his comment out of any reason. For the commenter, this simply looks as if there are network problems, when in fact he used a word on th filter list or got manually banned by a mod. Totally annoying! And then there&#8217;s the dishonest method of the &#8216;moderation queue&#8217;. The system pretends towards the commenter that his post has been published, when in fact he and the mod are the only ones that may see it. Again, this happens without giving any feedback. Also, the system may automatically block a commenter when he repeatedly tries to get his post through (which may happen when he thinks there are network problems because of the missing feedback). Lastly, a mayor problem with Wordpress is that it gives moderators a lot of power, put has no mechanism whatever for the siteowner to check what the mods are doing. No log, no messages about commenters being blocked, no nothing. You just have to trust your people, even though not all will be up to the task. Just like (in)famous TRex of Firedoglake, who may be a witty, snarky blogger but a very ugly alter ego as a mod:</p>
<p>&#8221; &#8220;Oh, Jurassic Pork,<br />
You&#8217;re HILARIOUS!!<br />
I would almost think you were serious.<br />
A note: In the moderation queue, no one can hear you scream.</p>
<p>Jane will never see your comment. She&#8217;s in L.A. tonight partying with Valerie and Joe Wilson, R.E.M., and Green Day and I am going to delete it long before she ever sees it.<br />
You are a sad, sad little man.<br />
Hope that hiatus from blogging is working out for you. You were never meant for our line of work.</p>
<p>Ta taaaaaaaaaa,<br />
TRex&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, I know Jurassicpork from several comment threads at Americablog and elsewhere. He isn&#8217;t a troll, but a reasonable guy, holding quite unextremist opinions. This is what he got for disagreeing with the &#8216;moderator&#8217; TRex at Wordpress-powered site FDL. </p>
<p>Joe, I think WP may look nice for bloggers, but it ignores the needs and wishes of an important part of the &#8216;customers&#8217;, the commenters. Can&#8217;t you use another software for the comment section? WP is an accident waiting to happen for commenters.</p>
<p>Btw, I tested the &#8216;B00ker&#8217; bug at another Wordpress site. No problems there. Check tf manual, there must be some kind of &#8216;banned&#8217; words list in WP and you or one of your crew accidentally inserted &#8216;B00ker&#8217; in it. Or isn&#8217;t it a bug, but a feature, and you simply hate the TV series starring Richard Grieko???<br />
 <img src='http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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