Comments on: Poll Shows Dropping Support For Bush And Iraq “Surge” Idea http://themoderatevoice.com/10161/poll-shows-dropping-support-for-bush-and-iraq-surge-idea/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:27:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Kim Ritter http://themoderatevoice.com/10161/poll-shows-dropping-support-for-bush-and-iraq-surge-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-42234 Kim Ritter Wed, 10 Jan 2007 05:10:52 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/2007/01/08/politics/poll-shows-dropping-support-for-bush-and-iraq-surge-idea/#comment-42234 Rambie- It was made public today that additional troops will be sent to Iraq in a couple of weeks. The administration will present this as part of a comprehensive plan----i.e. a done deal, making it very difficult for the Dems to make this the subject of their investigations. I think those in the GOP need to grow a pair and join their blue brothers in standing up to Bush. Otherwise you could see a Republican wipeout in '08. Rambie- It was made public today that additional troops will be sent to Iraq in a couple of weeks. The administration will present this as part of a comprehensive plan—-i.e. a done deal, making it very difficult for the Dems to make this the subject of their investigations. I think those in the GOP need to grow a pair and join their blue brothers in standing up to Bush. Otherwise you could see a Republican wipeout in ’08.

]]> By: Rambie http://themoderatevoice.com/10161/poll-shows-dropping-support-for-bush-and-iraq-surge-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-42144 Rambie Tue, 09 Jan 2007 21:45:50 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/2007/01/08/politics/poll-shows-dropping-support-for-bush-and-iraq-surge-idea/#comment-42144 Grognard, great post and I agree. The Dems need to conduct oversight and get real answers as to what these troops would do and how progress will be monitored. Just putting more bodies into the line of fire isn't good enough. If there is a clear well-defined plan on what this "surge" is going to accomplish, then maybe it'd be a good idea. So far, this administration and NEVER given a well-defined plan on anything. That's what I hope this congress will be able to ferret out of this Administration. Chris, If the Dems just obstruct but don't identify the problems in Iraq and help identify solutions, they'll just be labeled obstructionists by the GOP in '08. That is why I believe Grognard has a correct idea. Grognard, great post and I agree. The Dems need to conduct oversight and get real answers as to what these troops would do and how progress will be monitored. Just putting more bodies into the line of fire isn’t good enough. If there is a clear well-defined plan on what this “surge” is going to accomplish, then maybe it’d be a good idea. So far, this administration and NEVER given a well-defined plan on anything. That’s what I hope this congress will be able to ferret out of this Administration.

Chris, If the Dems just obstruct but don’t identify the problems in Iraq and help identify solutions, they’ll just be labeled obstructionists by the GOP in ’08. That is why I believe Grognard has a correct idea.

]]> By: Chris http://themoderatevoice.com/10161/poll-shows-dropping-support-for-bush-and-iraq-surge-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-42054 Chris Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:58:38 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/2007/01/08/politics/poll-shows-dropping-support-for-bush-and-iraq-surge-idea/#comment-42054 I think <a href="http://www.whyweworry.com/content/?p=553" rel="nofollow">this infographic I made</a> sums up my thoughts about this "Surge" pretty well. Moreover, the Dems need to obstruct this President, it's the right thing to do. We need to slow down the damage, and after Bush is gone, then we can start repairing it. I think this infographic I made sums up my thoughts about this “Surge” pretty well.

Moreover, the Dems need to obstruct this President, it’s the right thing to do. We need to slow down the damage, and after Bush is gone, then we can start repairing it.

]]> By: steve sturm http://themoderatevoice.com/10161/poll-shows-dropping-support-for-bush-and-iraq-surge-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-42023 steve sturm Tue, 09 Jan 2007 14:59:35 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/2007/01/08/politics/poll-shows-dropping-support-for-bush-and-iraq-surge-idea/#comment-42023 I <a href="http://thoughtsonline.blogspot.com/2007/01/following-is-work-in-progress.html" rel="nofollow">discovered Pete Townsend's original lyrics </a>for <i>Won't Get Fooled Again </i>were actually aimed at Bush's new plan. Probably not a song we'll find on Bush's IPod. I discovered Pete Townsend’s original lyrics for Won’t Get Fooled Again were actually aimed at Bush’s new plan. Probably not a song we’ll find on Bush’s IPod.

]]> By: Pug http://themoderatevoice.com/10161/poll-shows-dropping-support-for-bush-and-iraq-surge-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-42011 Pug Tue, 09 Jan 2007 13:26:54 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/2007/01/08/politics/poll-shows-dropping-support-for-bush-and-iraq-surge-idea/#comment-42011 <i>How many will support the surge out of party loyalty or political pressure, not concience?</i> The following will support the escalation wholeheartedly for the above reason: John McCain, Joe Lieberman, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly and Fox News. The rest of America, not so much. Bush finds himself where LBJ was about 40 years ago. He doesn't really have a clue what to do and there are no good options. So...send in more soldiers. How many will support the surge out of party loyalty or political pressure, not concience?

The following will support the escalation wholeheartedly for the above reason: John McCain, Joe Lieberman, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly and Fox News. The rest of America, not so much.

Bush finds himself where LBJ was about 40 years ago. He doesn’t really have a clue what to do and there are no good options. So…send in more soldiers.

]]> By: grognard http://themoderatevoice.com/10161/poll-shows-dropping-support-for-bush-and-iraq-surge-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-42009 grognard Tue, 09 Jan 2007 13:23:55 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/2007/01/08/politics/poll-shows-dropping-support-for-bush-and-iraq-surge-idea/#comment-42009 If the Democrats are civil but firm in getting some answers on just what we are to accomplish with this surge it will play well. Bush will be in an environment he has not yet experienced in Washington, people with the audacity to question his decisions. This is what the electorate voted, but the Democrats do need to exercise caution, they can’t be seen as obstructing just for the sake of having a showdown or scoring political points. Can’t wait to see Cheney on the Sunday morning talk shows. If the Democrats are civil but firm in getting some answers on just what we are to accomplish with this surge it will play well. Bush will be in an environment he has not yet experienced in Washington, people with the audacity to question his decisions. This is what the electorate voted, but the Democrats do need to exercise caution, they can’t be seen as obstructing just for the sake of having a showdown or scoring political points. Can’t wait to see Cheney on the Sunday morning talk shows.

]]> By: Kim Ritter http://themoderatevoice.com/10161/poll-shows-dropping-support-for-bush-and-iraq-surge-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-42002 Kim Ritter Tue, 09 Jan 2007 11:45:13 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/2007/01/08/politics/poll-shows-dropping-support-for-bush-and-iraq-surge-idea/#comment-42002 I trust Gordon Smith, the Republican Senator who met with the president and decided not to support the surge. There are many who will stick with the president out of loyalty or fear of being labelled a flip-flopper in the media, but Smith was one of the first to break away from his party. It also seems that those who are retired, but in a position to judge, like Colin Powell, are more likely to be candid about the surge. His biggest regret is tarring his reputation by going along with the administration, and giving that speech before the UN. How many will support the surge out of party loyalty or political pressure, not concience? Many will because they cannot accept defeat, and feel that any action-even a useless one that puts more lives in jeopardy- forestalls that foregone conclusion. I trust Gordon Smith, the Republican Senator who met with the president and decided not to support the surge. There are many who will stick with the president out of loyalty or fear of being labelled a flip-flopper in the media, but Smith was one of the first to break away from his party. It also seems that those who are retired, but in a position to judge, like Colin Powell, are more likely to be candid about the surge. His biggest regret is tarring his reputation by going along with the administration, and giving that speech before the UN. How many will support the surge out of party loyalty or political pressure, not concience? Many will because they cannot accept defeat, and feel that any action-even a useless one that puts more lives in jeopardy- forestalls that foregone conclusion.

]]> By: uncle joe mccarthy http://themoderatevoice.com/10161/poll-shows-dropping-support-for-bush-and-iraq-surge-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-41996 uncle joe mccarthy Tue, 09 Jan 2007 08:33:15 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/2007/01/08/politics/poll-shows-dropping-support-for-bush-and-iraq-surge-idea/#comment-41996 the surge is as much a fraud as the fence on the border 20,000? shit, why not 500,000 both numbers are fantasy and listening to the new john mccain makes me ill...how can that man turn from all that he learned from vietnam and back this insanity?? or does he know like me that no surge will ever occur, and he is just playing to the base to gain points for the primaries the surge is as much a fraud as the fence on the border

20,000? shit, why not 500,000

both numbers are fantasy

and listening to the new john mccain makes me ill…how can that man turn from all that he learned from vietnam and back this insanity??

or does he know like me that no surge will ever occur, and he is just playing to the base to gain points for the primaries

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