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		<title>By: iptybyx</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/10066/rebuilding-new-orleans-the-best-they-can/comment-page-1/#comment-223895</link>
		<dc:creator>iptybyx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 18:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ES, You must get elevations on any slab that is built in order to get federal flood insurance. They will not give insurance to anyone building in the 100 year flood plain. With out insurance you will not get financing. Your claim is missing something because it just wouldn&#039;t work as stated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ES, You must get elevations on any slab that is built in order to get federal flood insurance. They will not give insurance to anyone building in the 100 year flood plain. With out insurance you will not get financing. Your claim is missing something because it just wouldn&#8217;t work as stated.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 17:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Er, that was strange. Sorry for the nearly duplicate posts above but I tried to post this hours ago and neither of those posts showed up. I had given up but somehow both versions of my response have now appeared.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er, that was strange. Sorry for the nearly duplicate posts above but I tried to post this hours ago and neither of those posts showed up. I had given up but somehow both versions of my response have now appeared.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 13:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mominem,
Your perspective is obviously very valuable to the discussion. What are the specific impediments that you face? Shortage of contractors, lack of funds, etc? How do you think FEMA could improve the process?

You are right of course about the Corp&#039;s responsibility, although I also say that the local levee board contributed to the problem through corrupt deals (the casino deal, for example, diverted funds that should have been used for levee maintenance.) So, a bad situation was made worse.

And, the other issue where I feel the local govt bears strong responsibility is in the evacuation planning. Even if the levees had performed according to the plans, they would not have protected against a storm of this magnitude. Knowing this possibility always existed, the city had decades to better plan for the safety of residents (even if they still wouldn&#039;t have been able to protect property). I give them credit for finally getting the car evacuation planning right (it was quite impressive compared to past storms- my family members had ridden out hurricans in their cars while stuck in gridlock on I-10). But it is an abomination that they hadn&#039;t planned for the evacuation of citizens who didn&#039;t have cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mominem,<br />
Your perspective is obviously very valuable to the discussion. What are the specific impediments that you face? Shortage of contractors, lack of funds, etc? How do you think FEMA could improve the process?</p>
<p>You are right of course about the Corp&#8217;s responsibility, although I also say that the local levee board contributed to the problem through corrupt deals (the casino deal, for example, diverted funds that should have been used for levee maintenance.) So, a bad situation was made worse.</p>
<p>And, the other issue where I feel the local govt bears strong responsibility is in the evacuation planning. Even if the levees had performed according to the plans, they would not have protected against a storm of this magnitude. Knowing this possibility always existed, the city had decades to better plan for the safety of residents (even if they still wouldn&#8217;t have been able to protect property). I give them credit for finally getting the car evacuation planning right (it was quite impressive compared to past storms- my family members had ridden out hurricans in their cars while stuck in gridlock on I-10). But it is an abomination that they hadn&#8217;t planned for the evacuation of citizens who didn&#8217;t have cars.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 13:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mominem,
I agree with you that the faulty planning of the Corps puts major blame on that part of the federal govt. But where the local comes in is that the local levee boards were corrupt and sometimes maintenance was neglected as funds were misdirected (the casino deal, for example). So, even with substandard design, there was then the added issue of alterations and poor maintenance.

And on top of that, even if the design had performed as promised, it was only ever meant to protect against a Class III storm. So, the local govt certainly bore responsibility for better planning in the event of a storm like Katrina that exceeded that. I give them credit for finally getting the car evacuation planning right (it was quite impressive and a huge improvement over past attempts at evacuation- I have family members who had experienced hurricanes in their cars while stuck in gridlock on I-10 during past storms). But the fact that they didn&#039;t complete the planning for the citizens who couldn&#039;t evacuate by car was an abomination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mominem,<br />
I agree with you that the faulty planning of the Corps puts major blame on that part of the federal govt. But where the local comes in is that the local levee boards were corrupt and sometimes maintenance was neglected as funds were misdirected (the casino deal, for example). So, even with substandard design, there was then the added issue of alterations and poor maintenance.</p>
<p>And on top of that, even if the design had performed as promised, it was only ever meant to protect against a Class III storm. So, the local govt certainly bore responsibility for better planning in the event of a storm like Katrina that exceeded that. I give them credit for finally getting the car evacuation planning right (it was quite impressive and a huge improvement over past attempts at evacuation- I have family members who had experienced hurricanes in their cars while stuck in gridlock on I-10 during past storms). But the fact that they didn&#8217;t complete the planning for the citizens who couldn&#8217;t evacuate by car was an abomination.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 13:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ES,
I see your point but I think the difference is that in the case of your town, you&#039;re talking about new construction while in NO the issue is rebuilding. There simply isn&#039;t enough area to rebuild to allow repopulation of a preexisting city. Yes, in hindsight perhaps NO just isn&#039;t a smart place to locate a city, but then again the location didn&#039;t come about just because people thought it was a cool spot; it was due to strategic positioning at the mouth of the Mississippi. It is a key strategic location for shipping, and of course for basing oil exploration and refining.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ES,<br />
I see your point but I think the difference is that in the case of your town, you&#8217;re talking about new construction while in NO the issue is rebuilding. There simply isn&#8217;t enough area to rebuild to allow repopulation of a preexisting city. Yes, in hindsight perhaps NO just isn&#8217;t a smart place to locate a city, but then again the location didn&#8217;t come about just because people thought it was a cool spot; it was due to strategic positioning at the mouth of the Mississippi. It is a key strategic location for shipping, and of course for basing oil exploration and refining.</p>
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		<title>By: mominem</title>
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		<dc:creator>mominem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 06:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many people here have placed the blame on local political culture. Whatever the local faults that simply does not square with the facts.

Since about 1930 flood protection has been the exclusive province of the US Army Corps of Engineers. They and Congress have selected the projects to be funded and built. 

The Corps has selected the contractors and supervised the work. None of that was at fault. What was at fault is the DESIGN of the levees, exclusively the result of the Corps of Engineers and their consultants, yet the Corps are protected from liability for their error. Presumably that was with the implicit promise that if they failed (which they did and to their credit documented their failure in a 6,000 page report) that the Full Faith and Credit of The United States would reimburse the Citizens of The United States for their failure.

Keep in mind that in addition to Oil and Gas contributed by a poor state to the national economy at enormous environmental cost, everyone in Louisiana paid the same Federal Taxes as everyone else. Meanwhile other wealthy states like Florida and California have prohibited off shore drilling in less environmentally sensitive areas, all the while happily consuming the oil pumped from Louisiana.

The machinery imposed on us to get some compensation has exacerbate the problem and is still not flowing to the people who need help.

If FEMA were competent they could have managed the process themselves, instead that impede every local effort and them blame the locals for not moving fast enough.

I lost my house, and even though I have paid for Flood and Home Owners insurance for many years I haven&#039;t gotten an nickel in Federal Aid, and don&#039;t expect to get any. I still can&#039;t find a contractor to repair my house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many people here have placed the blame on local political culture. Whatever the local faults that simply does not square with the facts.</p>
<p>Since about 1930 flood protection has been the exclusive province of the US Army Corps of Engineers. They and Congress have selected the projects to be funded and built. </p>
<p>The Corps has selected the contractors and supervised the work. None of that was at fault. What was at fault is the DESIGN of the levees, exclusively the result of the Corps of Engineers and their consultants, yet the Corps are protected from liability for their error. Presumably that was with the implicit promise that if they failed (which they did and to their credit documented their failure in a 6,000 page report) that the Full Faith and Credit of The United States would reimburse the Citizens of The United States for their failure.</p>
<p>Keep in mind that in addition to Oil and Gas contributed by a poor state to the national economy at enormous environmental cost, everyone in Louisiana paid the same Federal Taxes as everyone else. Meanwhile other wealthy states like Florida and California have prohibited off shore drilling in less environmentally sensitive areas, all the while happily consuming the oil pumped from Louisiana.</p>
<p>The machinery imposed on us to get some compensation has exacerbate the problem and is still not flowing to the people who need help.</p>
<p>If FEMA were competent they could have managed the process themselves, instead that impede every local effort and them blame the locals for not moving fast enough.</p>
<p>I lost my house, and even though I have paid for Flood and Home Owners insurance for many years I haven&#8217;t gotten an nickel in Federal Aid, and don&#8217;t expect to get any. I still can&#8217;t find a contractor to repair my house.</p>
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		<title>By: ES</title>
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		<dc:creator>ES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 01:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CS,

There is no â€œextraâ€? protection provided by the developers for the homes being built on the floodplain â€“ there are no additional levies, walls, or pumping stations to move waters out of the way.  In fact, I live in a town with population greater than one million people with very little vertical buildings for homes, condos, apartments, and whatnot.  The only undeveloped land left in the city limits for new home construction and retail space, without having to drive 20-45 miles out of town, is the floodplain.

In fact, the same city is currently using eminent domain to â€œpurchaseâ€? floodplain land currently being used as manufacturing, car salvaging shops, light industrial, and so forth to build new high-dollar homes and retail space.  

My point is that all areas prone to flooding should not be constructed in.  If it is not okay in New Orleans because of a 50-year probability of a category 3 or greater hurricane hitting the coastline, then it should not be okay elsewhere because the same probability of a home in a 50-year floodplain will be devastated.  I donâ€™t want to use my tax money to pay for homes in New Orleans, but I am also very adamant about not wanting my tax money being used to replace one of these high-dollar homes.  I do not see a difference between the two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CS,</p>
<p>There is no â€œextraâ€? protection provided by the developers for the homes being built on the floodplain â€“ there are no additional levies, walls, or pumping stations to move waters out of the way.  In fact, I live in a town with population greater than one million people with very little vertical buildings for homes, condos, apartments, and whatnot.  The only undeveloped land left in the city limits for new home construction and retail space, without having to drive 20-45 miles out of town, is the floodplain.</p>
<p>In fact, the same city is currently using eminent domain to â€œpurchaseâ€? floodplain land currently being used as manufacturing, car salvaging shops, light industrial, and so forth to build new high-dollar homes and retail space.  </p>
<p>My point is that all areas prone to flooding should not be constructed in.  If it is not okay in New Orleans because of a 50-year probability of a category 3 or greater hurricane hitting the coastline, then it should not be okay elsewhere because the same probability of a home in a 50-year floodplain will be devastated.  I donâ€™t want to use my tax money to pay for homes in New Orleans, but I am also very adamant about not wanting my tax money being used to replace one of these high-dollar homes.  I do not see a difference between the two.</p>
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		<title>By: Polimom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polimom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 00:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>doctorj&#039;s comment and CStanley&#039;s response lead me to ask the question:  

Since it&#039;s obvious that the local leadership is failing in the face of this disaster, at what point should somebody (feds?  other?) step in?  Or should they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>doctorj&#8217;s comment and CStanley&#8217;s response lead me to ask the question:  </p>
<p>Since it&#8217;s obvious that the local leadership is failing in the face of this disaster, at what point should somebody (feds?  other?) step in?  Or should they?</p>
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		<title>By: wife</title>
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		<dc:creator>wife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 23:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The insurance comapnies left and the US government is leaving to.  There is no one to insure them.  Next time no one will pay.  So, what&#039;s the problem wasting US money again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The insurance comapnies left and the US government is leaving to.  There is no one to insure them.  Next time no one will pay.  So, what&#8217;s the problem wasting US money again?</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 23:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>doctorj,
I see your point but isn&#039;t it a bit of a copout to say that the local and state govt&#039;s are useless and therefore the feds have to take up the slack?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>doctorj,<br />
I see your point but isn&#8217;t it a bit of a copout to say that the local and state govt&#8217;s are useless and therefore the feds have to take up the slack?</p>
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		<title>By: doctorj</title>
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		<dc:creator>doctorj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 23:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will be the first to admit that the state and the city government is useless.  That is a well known fact.  So what does that say about a president whose first words on the disaster are 1.) We will rebuild the levees to their pre-Katrina strenght (George that is what failed us) and 2.) We will let the local folk handle the recovery.  Great leadership, Mr. Bush.  We were doomed from that point forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will be the first to admit that the state and the city government is useless.  That is a well known fact.  So what does that say about a president whose first words on the disaster are 1.) We will rebuild the levees to their pre-Katrina strenght (George that is what failed us) and 2.) We will let the local folk handle the recovery.  Great leadership, Mr. Bush.  We were doomed from that point forward.</p>
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		<title>By: Davebo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davebo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 20:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Polimom, good post, but I too have to take a bit of issue in assigning blame.

Nagin definately shares some blame, but honestly, what he faced was totally new.   No mayor ever faced the challenges he did during and in the aftermath of Katrina.

All the carping about school buses flooded and not used for evacuation was rendered mute in my opinion following the disaster that was Houston&#039;s attempted evacuation for Rita.   But I rarely heard anyone blaming Bill White for sitting in a traffic jam for 12 hours and covering 8 miles in the process.

Nagin could definately have done better, but no one has ever walked in the shoes nature gave him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Polimom, good post, but I too have to take a bit of issue in assigning blame.</p>
<p>Nagin definately shares some blame, but honestly, what he faced was totally new.   No mayor ever faced the challenges he did during and in the aftermath of Katrina.</p>
<p>All the carping about school buses flooded and not used for evacuation was rendered mute in my opinion following the disaster that was Houston&#8217;s attempted evacuation for Rita.   But I rarely heard anyone blaming Bill White for sitting in a traffic jam for 12 hours and covering 8 miles in the process.</p>
<p>Nagin could definately have done better, but no one has ever walked in the shoes nature gave him.</p>
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		<title>By: aphrael</title>
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		<dc:creator>aphrael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 19:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Polimom: fair enough. But since nobody from outside the city can step in and remove the city government and/or take these decisions out of the hands of the city government, &lt;em&gt;what can those outside New Orleans do?&lt;/em&gt; Other than provide financial support to a recall effort --- which might be self-defeating in that outside financial support for local politics tends to trigger resentment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Polimom: fair enough. But since nobody from outside the city can step in and remove the city government and/or take these decisions out of the hands of the city government, <em>what can those outside New Orleans do?</em> Other than provide financial support to a recall effort &#8212; which might be self-defeating in that outside financial support for local politics tends to trigger resentment.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 19:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a slight paraphrase on a comment I made over at Polimom&#039;s site:

Unfortunately, there are many folks in NOLA who would willingly shoot themselves in the head, if they were convinced that the blood would spatter on their political/cultural/social foes.

I dunno if it is because they dance funny, or they speak funny, or they eat really spicy food, or if it some bizarre holdover from the Napoleonic era - but I have *never* seen a city more hell-bent on self-destruction than NOLA.

~EdT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a slight paraphrase on a comment I made over at Polimom&#8217;s site:</p>
<p>Unfortunately, there are many folks in NOLA who would willingly shoot themselves in the head, if they were convinced that the blood would spatter on their political/cultural/social foes.</p>
<p>I dunno if it is because they dance funny, or they speak funny, or they eat really spicy food, or if it some bizarre holdover from the Napoleonic era &#8211; but I have *never* seen a city more hell-bent on self-destruction than NOLA.</p>
<p>~EdT.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 18:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, fair enough, polimom, but then again, it was still the decision of Long that made it &#039;all or nothing&#039; (bearing in mind that the oil is located under federal waters, so the 50% offer was in line with how states are generally compensated for resources that are on or under federal land).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, fair enough, polimom, but then again, it was still the decision of Long that made it &#8216;all or nothing&#8217; (bearing in mind that the oil is located under federal waters, so the 50% offer was in line with how states are generally compensated for resources that are on or under federal land).</p>
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		<title>By: Polimom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polimom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 18:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aphrael -- that&#039;s also true to some degree.  However, it&#039;s also true that everyone in the city didn&#039;t vote for Nagin.  There&#039;s even been an attempt at a recall.

For comparative purposes -- it&#039;s not dissimilar from saying that Americans deserve what they get because they re-elected George W. Bush.  (No, that&#039;s not meant to inflame...)

CStanley -- Yes, many states profited greatly from the oil reserves.  LA, however, was not compensated as others were.  In fact, that&#039;s the primary reason I supported the Offshore Drilling bill that just passed.  A quote from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/11/AR2006121101326.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WaPo&#039;s article of Dec 12&lt;/a&gt; explains (my emphasis):
&lt;blockquote&gt;in 1949, Gov. Earl Long was so determined to get all of the oil and gas royalties from drilling off his state&#039;s shores that he turned down an offer from Truman that would have put a portion of that revenue into Louisiana&#039;s coffers. &lt;strong&gt;Louisiana ended up with nothing&lt;/strong&gt;, and since then the Treasury has collected $160 billion from offshore oil and gas production all over the United States.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aphrael &#8212; that&#8217;s also true to some degree.  However, it&#8217;s also true that everyone in the city didn&#8217;t vote for Nagin.  There&#8217;s even been an attempt at a recall.</p>
<p>For comparative purposes &#8212; it&#8217;s not dissimilar from saying that Americans deserve what they get because they re-elected George W. Bush.  (No, that&#8217;s not meant to inflame&#8230;)</p>
<p>CStanley &#8212; Yes, many states profited greatly from the oil reserves.  LA, however, was not compensated as others were.  In fact, that&#8217;s the primary reason I supported the Offshore Drilling bill that just passed.  A quote from <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/11/AR2006121101326.html" rel="nofollow">WaPo&#8217;s article of Dec 12</a> explains (my emphasis):</p>
<blockquote><p>in 1949, Gov. Earl Long was so determined to get all of the oil and gas royalties from drilling off his state&#8217;s shores that he turned down an offer from Truman that would have put a portion of that revenue into Louisiana&#8217;s coffers. <strong>Louisiana ended up with nothing</strong>, and since then the Treasury has collected $160 billion from offshore oil and gas production all over the United States.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 18:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aphrael,
I partly agree but I also don&#039;t think there were any good alternative candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aphrael,<br />
I partly agree but I also don&#8217;t think there were any good alternative candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: aphrael</title>
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		<dc:creator>aphrael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 17:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Polimom: and, given the fact that Nagin was *re-elected*, if it lies at the feet of the city&#039;s leadership, it also lies at the feet of its voters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Polimom: and, given the fact that Nagin was *re-elected*, if it lies at the feet of the city&#8217;s leadership, it also lies at the feet of its voters.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 17:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Polimom.
I have to differ with you on the issue of the country being willing to use LA oil resources. LA and other gulf states profitted greatly from the oil resources but LA squandered most of the profit. I would agree with you that Big Oil should have been made to foot the bill for better levee protection, and that some of the waterway projects were done for short term profit without regard to long term environmental impact, but I fail to see how this too doesn&#039;t reflect poorly on the state and local governments who allowed such decisions to be made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Polimom.<br />
I have to differ with you on the issue of the country being willing to use LA oil resources. LA and other gulf states profitted greatly from the oil resources but LA squandered most of the profit. I would agree with you that Big Oil should have been made to foot the bill for better levee protection, and that some of the waterway projects were done for short term profit without regard to long term environmental impact, but I fail to see how this too doesn&#8217;t reflect poorly on the state and local governments who allowed such decisions to be made.</p>
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